DTB's ANGRY TREE HUGGER (Now pulling an angry pop up camper)

Started by DTB, January 22, 2006, 10:48:06 PM

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Gittinit

That crosmember and tank mount turned out nice.... that food tooks interesting too ??? :disturbed:
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DTB

maybe you guys can help me with the shocks in the front...i have this shock mount (marlin) there is a metal spacer that i am figuring keeps the bolt from moving up and down in the hole. is this welded to the front of the gusset or the back? if it is welded in the back the shock bushing would have nothing to sit flat against. When i put it in the front it looks weird.....for some reason.. anyone have these? what to do? thanks! im almost there! :woohoo:
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91 super yoda

i would weld the front and the back but leave a gap where the shock can sit flat. If it were me using that, i would use two top plates, it wouldnt sit well for me to have a single shear grade 5 bolt holding my shocks on.

Rocksurfer

Dang you've been busy, that thing looks sweet, and dinner looks good too. Think she'd want to work at La-Jaques for me? :rofl2:
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Wermz84

Quote from: DTB on April 27, 2007, 07:01:59 PM
its a mango crabmeat salad on cumin apple chips....girlfriend made it

Hey wait a minute :paranoid:  Since when have you had a girlfriend?  You've been holding out on US!!!     :laugh:


Like the build up.  :thumbs:
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Gittinit

Quote from: 91 super yoda on April 27, 2007, 09:12:20 PM
i would weld the front and the back but leave a gap where the shock can sit flat. If it were me using that, i would use two top plates, it wouldn't sit well for me to have a single shear grade 5 bolt holding my shocks on.
As long as you have adequate bump stops there should be no issues with a grade five bolt in single shear. Shocks are meant to dampen the shock loads on your suspension, not carry the kinds of loads that require grade 8 bolts or even double shear.
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

6.72:1

What, you're build is going faster than mine and you have a girlfriend?

Wow, I am really slacking here!
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Loki

just put your girlfriend to work like i did with my now ex-girlfriend LOL
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6.72:1

Well, I don't have any exs or current girlfriend close by!
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Loki

Quote from: 6.72:1 on April 28, 2007, 07:44:12 PM
Well, I don't have any exs or current girlfriend close by!

you can borrow my ex ;)
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DTB

took some pics of the offending shock mount.... spacer in front (this looks like the correct way to me) >>>



spacer in back (something just dont look right here dunno..I have seen people do it this way but it dont look right)
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DTB

looking at these pictures now i just answered my own question... spacer welded in the front ...less leverage on the shock bolt and the shock should be mounted as close to the center of axle tube as possible (the gusset itself is dead center on the axle tube)
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DTB

it still looks weird to me either way though
RIP KYOTA
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Wermz84

You Sir are inspiring me!  To work on my Junk.  :yupyup:


Quote from: DTB on April 29, 2007, 01:42:22 PM
looking at these pictures now i just answered my own question... spacer welded in the front ...less leverage on the shock bolt and the shock should be mounted as close to the center of axle tube as possible (the gusset itself is dead center on the axle tube)

Sounds like good logic to me.  Why not just a shorter bolt then? :headscratch:
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DTB

Quote from: Wermz84 on April 29, 2007, 01:48:11 PM



Sounds like good logic to me.  Why not just a shorter bolt then? :headscratch:

you mean elimnate the spacer and just use a shorter bolt? as you can see the bolt is just long enough to use with the spacer. Im thinking there is a reason for the spacer to be included in the kit. It keeps the bolt from moving up and down, side to side in the gusset hole...gives it quite a bit more lateral strength...marlin wouldnt have included it if it didnt have a purpose. Im probably way overanalyzing this...part of my obsessive compulsive disorder i suppose :haha:  joking joking
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Wermz84

The shorter bolt was a question and not a suggestion to start hacking.  I agree, Marlin wouldn't have put it in there if it didn't have a purpose.  I just keep looking at the pics and trying to wonder what for.    :think:
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DanS

DTB, great pics of install, it starts to make sense of the same kit I now have with the exception I'm installing dual front shocks with the hoop from 'Sky Mfg.' (the one they sent no hardware for and won't return  my calls).
Cool build up :thumbs:, keep the pics coming they are a great help for all the work I'm in process of completing.
Thanks DanS
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I would start by taking off the green band if yer gonna use those shocks


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6.72:1

Quote from: oldyellercj on April 29, 2007, 03:30:31 PM
I would start by taking off the green band if yer gonna use those shocks


:usa: :beerwhack:


Unnecessary use of emoticon coming on:


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Wermz84

Quote from: oldyellercj on April 29, 2007, 03:30:31 PM
I would start by taking off the green band if yer gonna use those shocks


:usa: :beerwhack:

Better Return that way..   :silly:
I like to Drive!

Gittinit

Quote from: Wermz84 on April 29, 2007, 01:48:11 PM
You Sir are inspiring me!  To work on my Junk.  :yupyup:


Sounds like good logic to me.  Why not just a shorter bolt then? :headscratch:

I think I would go this route them weld the bolt head to the gusset and never worry about it moving or egging the hole.
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

Loki

I'm with gittinit though with his comment about welding the bolt head

Quote from: 6.72:1 on April 29, 2007, 03:27:16 PM

Well then, don't mind if I do!
If you want her Number i'll give it to you...she's young dumb and well...lets just say she's young and dumb. she likes being adventurous though
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Rocksurfer

Question, when you had the shock against the mount and the spacer on the other side did the shock eye get a little close to the axle housing? The spacer could be there to keep the shock eye from contacting the axle housing.
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DTB

Quote from: Rocksurfer on April 30, 2007, 06:27:26 PM
Question, when you had the shock against the mount and the spacer on the other side did the shock eye get a little close to the axle housing? The spacer could be there to keep the shock eye from contacting the axle housing.
didnt really check thank RS....ill look into it...shady crawler told me that marlin has the spacer in front on his truck...he is trying to get me some pics i will post them here when i do  :yesnod: 
Quote from: shadycrawler on April 30, 2007, 07:59:47 AM
Hey there,
First of all thats a good build up , keep up the good work.  The spacer does weld on front of the gusset so the shock does sit flush on the bracket.  When Marlin comes back Ill take a quick pic of his and send it to you when I get a chance.

Thanks,
Steve
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Gittinit

Dis this build come to a sudden stop? Everything was moving along so good ....Whats happening? Come on slacker get to work!
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

Wermz84

Yes, what happened to the spacer issue?  Front, Rear, Welded, not welded what did you finally do?   :dunno:
I like to Drive!

90toy

your rig is waaaay to clean. very nice build.

DTB

Quote from: Gittinit on May 16, 2007, 06:41:13 AM
Dis this build come to a sudden stop? Everything was moving along so good ....Whats happening? Come on slacker get to work!
hey im still here....just waiting on my drive shafts from high angle...

plus i had finals week last week and graduated this week.....

i have a really intensive class for the next 5 weeks to finish my other degree :thud:

plus managing the hotel full time

:thud:

sorry ill get cracking again :whip:
RIP KYOTA
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DTB

Quote from: Wermz84 on May 16, 2007, 08:53:48 AM
Yes, what happened to the spacer issue?  Front, Rear, Welded, not welded what did you finally do?   :dunno:

still havent decided yet wermz...... ill probably just weld the bolt head to the gusset :yesnod:
RIP KYOTA
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