Topic: DTB's ANGRY TREE HUGGER (Now pulling an angry pop up camper)

[Fongs]

@DirToyBoy

hey...DTB nice work
just a question
you mount the power-Steering Box with a Plate or without

[DTB [OP]]

@DirToyBoy

hey...DTB nice work
just a question
you mount the power-Steering Box with a Plate or without

its not actually mounted yet. its just mocked up with the c-clamp to drill holes. Yes, I will be using this to plate it.

[Fongs]

its not actually mounted yet. its just mocked up with the c-clamp to drill holes. Yes, I will be using this to plate it.

okay.....cool...nice nice

[Gittinit]

thanks u know what is funny is that you guys are my only source of info....everything I have learned so far I learned from the intardweb

Same here ...My build was done from reading, rereading and somewhat memorizing the pirate FAQ. Why try to reinvent the wheel?  someone has already figured it out somewhere, we just have to make it work for us.

[alwayzbroken]

You have to be careful who you listen to as well. Some really are experts at cobbling things together and are good at convincing others to do the same.

[topar]

Trucks looking good! 

[Loki]

We all know the merits of a drill press, but after doing 2 boxes myself, I don't see how it would be easier to use a drill press for this. It doesn't take more than an hour to do anyway.

well i'm sure it doesn't take that long, and i'm sure you don't need to have one, but if i have one, why not put it to use....regardless...DTB keep up the good work.

[DTB [OP]]

I have a couple questions maybe u guys can help me with. I need to extend my steering shaft by about an inch and a half or two. I read about people drilling out some plastic (shear?) pin to allow the shaft to extend. I cant seem to find one on mine just a solid metal tube with this steel accordian sleeve on part of it. Do I cut the shaft, sleeve it with a piece of tube and weld up to extend?




Also, I cant figure out if I should mount the brakelines on the inside or outside of the frame rail. It seems if it is on the inside it might not have enough reach when at full droop. If it is on the outside it seems that it would be prone to attacks from rocks and sticks coming up in the wheelwell and damaging the line. Any thoughts on these?  

[6.72:1]

The brakeline might be prone to attacks, but I have seen a few on the outside of the frame with no problems....

[MR_DIY]

brake lines on outside.
IFS steering shaft for the replacement.  OR cut and sleeve it... be sure to do a bunch of plug welds b/c it's your life 

[DTB [OP]]

brake lines on outside.
IFS steering shaft for the replacement.  OR cut and sleeve it... be sure to do a bunch of plug welds b/c it's your life 

I already have an IFS shaft so I guess Im gonna have to sleeve it then?

Also I am looking for places to mount my rear shocks. The rear round tube crossmember seems to sit directly above the axle so Im thinking I can just drill a couple holes thru that and weld a bolt sleeve in. The problem is that the front side of the crossmember is rusted out pretty good in some places...i dont have a good pic sorry...is there a way to strengthen this crossmember tube without replacing it completely?   

[MR_DIY]

I'd just cut it out and replace it... the xmember y'know.
make it your own beyotch.

nice rig btw

[6.72:1]

I'd just cut it out and replace it... the xmember y'know.
make it your own beyotch.

nice rig btw

X2 you hussie!

[DTB [OP]]

I'd just cut it out and replace it... the xmember y'know.
make it your own beyotch.

nice rig btw

the gas tank mount is attached to that crossmember though i suppose i could cut the mount off and weld it to a new relapcement tube...dunno i was just looking for an easy answer...i know there never really is one lol

[6.72:1]

I'd just cut it out and replace it... the xmember y'know.
make it your own beyotch.

nice rig btw

the gas tank mount is attached to that crossmember though i suppose i could cut the mount off and weld it to a new relapcement tube...dunno i was just looking for an easy answer...i know there never really is one lol

There are no easy answers son!

[DTB [OP]]

UPDATED
To Do List for this week


Weld tabs for ram on tie rod and axle
Mount shock hoops
Bumpstops
Weld plates for PS box
Final weld on rear spring hangars and perches
Weld hardline tabs for brakes on front
Bleed brakes
Weld 2 P.S. reservoirs together
double check torque on all critical bolts
mount driveshafts
extend steering shaft
Set toe-in
Bleed PS system
Fab or strengthen rear crossmember
Mount rear shocks



Somehow my list got longer? I have taken 2 weeks off cuz ive been so busy...tuesday is GO time again

[Gittinit]

Go the extra step when you replace that crossmember, and raise the gas tank an inch or two. You will thank yourself later. I know the truck tanks don't hang down like the runner tanks but it would still be smart to raise it a little. You can use some spacers or something, with new nuts welded to them to raise the front. Then build the new mount higher in the rear.
Oh and replacing the crosmember is the easy way. If you were to try and weld to the old crossmember you would just burn right through it. Those factory crosmsmbers are(tinfoil) thinner than the frame.

My lines are mounted outside the frame and I have never ripped off a front brakeline.

[toy4x4ota]

for my steering shaft i just used a section of my stock tie rod off of my front axle. i cut the steering shaft in half and used the grinder to make them fit in the ends tie rod section. measured and checked to find the right distance. worked really good.  i dont know if you have a stock tie rod though

[Rockcrawlintoy]

i used some 1x.120 wall hrew tube and drilled some holes for a plug weld and then welded the whole thing up

Drwe

[DTB [OP]]

i used some 1x.120 wall hrew tube and drilled some holes for a plug weld and then welded the whole thing up

Drwe

Something like this should work good, eh?   

[Rocksurfer]

I ran my lines on the outside on my 81, that's where they were anyways, and all (except very old vehicles) have 2 piece steering shafts so that when you have a frontend collision it will colapse instead of pushing into your chest killing you. They are held in place by a pin that if you remove the pin it will allow you to extend it out.

[alwayzbroken]

I ran my lines on the outside on my 81, that's where they were anyways, and all (except very old vehicles) have 2 piece steering shafts so that when you have a frontend collision it will colapse instead of pushing into your chest killing you. They are held in place by a pin that if you remove the pin it will allow you to extend it out.

The third gen trucks have one piece steering shafts with the accordian that collapses in an accident.

That will work DTB. That is what I did except I added my extension on the other end of the shaft.

Why do you need to cut out that crossmember in the back? My shock hoop fits easily behind the round crossmember.

[alwayzbroken]

You need to add exhaust to the to-do list also.

[Rocksurfer]

The third gen trucks have one piece steering shafts with the accordian that collapses in an accident.

That will work DTB. That is what I did except I added my extension on the other end of the shaft.

Why do you need to cut out that crossmember in the back? My shock hoop fits easily behind the round crossmember.

Glad I've never had to deal with that.

You need to add exhaust to the to-do list also.

 

[Gittinit]

The third gen trucks have one piece steering shafts with the accordian that collapses in an accident.

That will work DTB. That is what I did except I added my extension on the other end of the shaft.

Why do you need to cut out that crossmember in the back? My shock hoop fits easily behind the round crossmember.

He shortened the wheelbase just enough that his rear axle is under that crosmember. He wants to mount his shocks there but the crosmember is rusted.

[Gittinit]

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Where can I get one of those cool 2 bulb florescent drop lights?

[Rockcrawlintoy]

those are his rock lights 

Drew

[BLACKDOG]

DTB, just weld some angle iron over the crossmember.  then you have a square mount to have the bolt heads rest against. 

[Loki]

Where can I get one of those cool 2 bulb florescent drop lights?

home depot sells the best rock lights...i need to get a set or 2 for my rig...the "my little poney" lights don't work so great anymore LOL

Looking good DTB

[Rocksurfer]

I turn my lights off I don't wanna know what I'm gonna hit.