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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1080 on: Dec 17, 2017, 07:14:00 PM »
Not necessarily. As it slings all in the bellhousing it can run down and drip on the pressure plate. I hate it for you gnarls but it looks like if you don't find a leak on the head your dropping that transmission your so fond of messing with.  :sick:
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1081 on: Dec 17, 2017, 07:33:30 PM »
Not necessarily. As it slings all in the bellhousing it can run down and drip on the pressure plate. I hate it for you gnarls but it looks like if you don't find a leak on the head your dropping that transmission your so fond of messing with.  :sick:

I was thinking the same thing. the fact that it's coming out of the clutch fork boot means it's making it past the flywheel.

so at this point it's not residual oil from the halfmoon, and it's not the flywheel bolts (from what I can tell. I looked at 3 cranks, don't know if they were TEQ or repro's), and that leaves the rear main. gnarls should invite me over. I'll pull that motor out in 30 minutes instead of dropping the trans :disturbed:
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1082 on: Dec 18, 2017, 02:42:42 AM »
I’ve only seen a few Toytoa crankshafts, but don’t recall any that had flywheel to crank thru-holes into the crank case?  :dunno:

I think early Chevy has thru holes?

Regarding the oil inside the bell housing… as the oil leaks around the rear seal and onto the flywheel it will fling droplets all over the inside.  Under high RPMs the inside of the bell housing, as it get hot, is like a wind tunnel and the turbulance will make an oil “fog”… and it WILL eventually get all over the clutch disc.  :yesnod:

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« Last Edit: Dec 18, 2017, 03:07:53 AM by Gnarly4X »
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1083 on: Dec 18, 2017, 02:50:29 AM »
... gnarls should invite me over. I'll pull that motor out in 30 minutes instead of dropping the trans :disturbed:

Please don't take this personal.. this would apply to anyone at 16 years of age...  :therethere:

LOL.... so... I might let you come over and watch, so you can take notes.  When you are about 30 years of age and still working on your Toyota truck, I MIGHT consider actually letting you touch my engine with just one finger.   Unfortunately, you will NEVER get a chance to pull my engine without dropping the tranny first!....unless I'm deceased and my truck went up on the auction block at my estate sale, and you were the highest bidder!  LOL.  :gap:

I do appreciate your kind offer. :gap:

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1084 on: Dec 18, 2017, 03:21:02 AM »
Not necessarily. As it slings all in the bellhousing it can run down and drip on the pressure plate. I hate it for you gnarls but it looks like if you don't find a leak on the head your dropping that transmission your so fond of messing with.  :sick:

Thanks... yeah I was hoping somehow it was just the half moon.  :-\

I'll drive it one more time and look for oil at the bell housing, but I think I'm doomed to pull the flywheel and see where the oil is coming from.  Rebuilding and restoring a 32 year old truck is hard work... and making a ding in my savings account!! :yikes:

At 50 years of age, working on my truck was "Hey, this is fun."  At 60 years of age, working on my truck was "OK, I'll do it."  At 70 years of age, working on my truck is.. "Oh crap, do I really want to go out into the garage and get sweaty and greasy, and then be stiff and sore the next morning?" :smack:

At 40 years of age I was kick'n my Toyota truck's butt all the time.  Now it's kick'n MY butt!!

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1085 on: Dec 18, 2017, 11:02:10 AM »
Oh man.
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1086 on: Dec 18, 2017, 12:33:14 PM »
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LOL.... so... I might let you come over and watch, so you can take notes.  When you are about 30 years of age and still working on your Toyota truck, I MIGHT consider actually letting you touch my engine with just one finger.   Unfortunately, you will NEVER get a chance to pull my engine without dropping the tranny first!....unless I'm deceased and my truck went up on the auction block at my estate sale, and you were the highest bidder!  LOL.  :gap:

Are you worried that he won't get it done right the first time?  :D
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1087 on: Dec 18, 2017, 02:04:32 PM »
-snip-

I was more or less offering because I can work friday saturday sunday and monday on my truck and not be sore in the morning. gnarls lifts the hood and he's in the shoutbox for three days about how sore he is  :gap:

Also he's the closest member besides SlayTank, who I don't actually know. Keep in mind 30 year old Toyotas are a beast to work on, especially when they've been through ten people and rebuilt at least twice like mine, which was also Xtra cab swapped. Easy to do stuff right the first time when the only thing you've done on your truck is change the shocks, I guess. :shake:
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1088 on: Dec 18, 2017, 02:39:27 PM »
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Gnarls lifts the hood and he's in the shoutbox for three days about how sore he is  :gap:

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1089 on: Dec 18, 2017, 03:26:37 PM »
Easy to do stuff right the first time when the only thing you've done on your truck is change the shocks, I guess. :shake:

I choose to assume that this is a shot in my direction.  :down:

I have no problem admitting that wrenching isn't my skill or interest, so am happy to pay to have the job done right.  My first 85 truck was built in 2002 and the 4Runner was built in 2008.  I have not had a trail break in the past 15 years thanks to the work that has been done for me.  I've done a little bit more than shocks and am capable of a tad more than I've done, but it's just not my what I enjoy doing.
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1090 on: Dec 18, 2017, 05:51:45 PM »
WARNING: The following post may contain a bazinga.  If your humor is not fully functional please just skip to the next post.

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Are you worried that he won't get it done right the first time?  :D


I'm not worried at all.  The likelyhood that 300k would be allowed to touch my truck is very remote.  :shake:

Disclaimer:  I have no idea as to his level of auto mechanical skills, however, judging from his posts, I think he knows enough to be extremely dangerous! LOL...  :yikes:

BUT... so far based on this rebuild, I would NOT brag about my auto mechanical skills!!!  :disturbed:

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1091 on: Dec 18, 2017, 05:56:05 PM »
I choose to assume that this is a shot in my direction.  :down:

I have no problem admitting that wrenching isn't my skill or interest, so am happy to pay to have the job done right.  My first 85 truck was built in 2002 and the 4Runner was built in 2008.  I have not had a trail break in the past 15 years thanks to the work that has been done for me.  I've done a little bit more than shocks and am capable of a tad more than I've done, but it's just not my what I enjoy doing.

I don't know who was getting the "shot", but I know guys that will pay to have their rigs set up, modified, and maintained, and there's nothing to be ashamed of with that.  AND.. there are many many posts on lots and lots of automotive sites describing how some backyard DIYer fubar'd his whatever!!  I have fubar'd things more than once!!!

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1092 on: Dec 18, 2017, 06:02:04 PM »
:haha:


Yeah... you guys in the sand box get so boring the posts stop, so I have to keep pumping pomp n' stink into it!!

And, yes... may old body gets sore now.....   And, I do pop the hood and then get in the sand box for 3 days.... I'm procrastinating... you will get there some day!

So when you are 70 years of age I don't want to read about all your aches and pains!!

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1093 on: Dec 18, 2017, 06:04:13 PM »
Oh man.

Yeah... I said something similar to that, but I added some potty mouth adjectives, with some cringing facial expressions!!

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1094 on: Dec 18, 2017, 06:45:33 PM »
My auto mechanics experience is limited at best...but that's not really a bad thing considering I've been doing it for less than 2 years. I also didn't have a kick arse mentor to teach me everything.  I was 13 when I picked up my Toyota, and before that I'd only done oil changes, brake jobs, and spark plugs on random vehicles. Since then, I've rebuilt the carb, replaced a t case housing plate, replace an alternator, replaced a starter, and now I am rebuilding a motor. I've done a couple brake jobs, but recently I did front and rear brakes on ORM's Yukon. had front rotors turned, did new pads. Rear had one sticking caliper that required new rotors with new pads and also a caliper replacement. I've done window regulators, door latch mechanisms, water pumps, etc.

I do learn a lot based on my experience. Next time I do a temp gauge, I will call LCE and tell them to send their coolant manifold with either a pilot hole or undrilled so I don't have to waste time drilling adapters. They send it drilled way too big, which I can only imagine is for a mechanical sender or some random brand that uses a 3/8th sender. OOPS also helped me out a lot by telling me the best place to find 12v that's on with the key is right off the key tumbler itself.

best way to learn is by doing...and that's why I picked a 1800 dollar Toyota...the only issue is that it's a toyota and it broke way less than I thought it would...shoulda got a chevy LOL
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1095 on: Dec 18, 2017, 06:47:07 PM »
Yeah... you guys in the sand box get so boring the posts stop, so I have to keep pumping pomp n' stink into it!!

And, yes... may old body gets sore now.....   And, I do pop the hood and then get in the sand box for 3 days.... I'm procrastinating... you will get there some day!

So when you are 70 years of age I don't want to read about all your aches and pains!!

Gnarls.

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1096 on: Dec 18, 2017, 07:23:08 PM »
When I am 70 you’ll be 100+. Hope you’re around to read my posts. May you live long and prosper 🖖.


Hey blackdiamond,

Well.... thank you, I enjoy your posts.  I am working on living a little longer. I'm 100+ days on a vegan diet.  I may live a little longer, I'm not sure about the "prosper" part.  :dunno:

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1097 on: Dec 18, 2017, 07:25:06 PM »
My auto mechanics experience is limited at best...

300k... no worries... you'll be a wizard before you know it.  :thumbs:

In the words of Albert Einstein... "The only source of knowledge is experience."

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1098 on: Dec 19, 2017, 06:36:06 PM »
While looking at the oil leak on the bottom of the bell housing, I discovered a coolant leak! :yikes:

https://imgur.com/a/Gz5oc

I'll be fixing that tomorrow morning. :gap:

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1099 on: Dec 19, 2017, 06:41:47 PM »
I had that same leak. I just pushed the hose down farther and ram rodded the clamp. Why is your manifold yellow lol
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1100 on: Dec 19, 2017, 07:08:41 PM »
I had that same leak. I just pushed the hose down farther and ram rodded the clamp. Why is your manifold yellow lol

300k... again you continue to demonstrate your ignorance and unfamiliarity with a 32 year old Toyota truck.  Perhaps your methods and fixes work for you.  :dunno:

Unless the coolant pipe is brand new, they will most likely be rusted and corroded inside, thin metal on tubing.  If you "ram rod" the clamp, you can completely collapse the pipe.... now you will buy a new one or have H8PVMNT send you one of his from his "shed-stock".  :gap:

I'm going to remove it, see what condition the metal tube and hose are in and then seal the hose with Ultra Grey.  I will then replace the stock hose clamps with 3 stainless steel hose clamps.... and I will not be "ram rodding" them.  :thumbs:

That's just my experience... yours is obviously different.  :D

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1101 on: Dec 19, 2017, 07:16:11 PM »
Just disconnected it recently when I pulled the motor. Tube is fine. Also my truck is coming up on 34 years!
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1102 on: Dec 19, 2017, 07:17:28 PM »
.... Why is your manifold yellow lol

I spray painted the exhaust manifold with header paint.  It turned yellow after about 10 minutes.

I like it!!

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1103 on: Dec 19, 2017, 07:21:51 PM »
Just disconnected it recently when I pulled the motor. Tube is fine. Also my truck is coming up on 34 years!

Well...you are in good shape and fortunate that your engine coolant was replaced frequently and kept the corrosion and electrolysis down. 

I forgot now... what caused the engine to lose coolant and overheat while on the "gap"??

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1104 on: Dec 19, 2017, 07:23:17 PM »
I forgot now... what caused the engine to lose coolant and overheat while on the "gap"??

That would be a carefully balanced mix of new rubber motor mounts and a jerry rigged lower radiator hose :gap:
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1105 on: Dec 20, 2017, 02:46:52 AM »
That would be a .... jerry rigged lower radiator hose :gap:

Thank you… THAT is a point I was making.

I sand dune’d for about 8 years. I saw too many guys spend time and money to get to the dunes for a 2 to 4 day weekend trip and then spend most of their time “fixing” something.  It used to drive me nuts!  :willynilly:

50% of the time the failure was because they were simply lazy and did not properly prep their sand rail BEFORE they arrived at the dunes.  25% of the failures were because they “jerry rigged” their crap.   15% of time they abused their rigs.  9% of the failures was just bad luck and unexpected component failure. The remaining 1% of the failures was most likely caused by their own bad karma.  They ended up burning valuable daylight, but worse, they caused others to volunteer to help them fix their stupidity, or just got some great help in a time of need.  Those numbers varied on any given trip.   :thumbdown:

When I started 4-wheeling in 1986... Because I did NOT want to be “that guy”, I made love to my truck a couple times BEFORE the next trail run.  Even then, I STILL had minor failures once in awhile.  My last major “failure” was stupidity on my part – I should have determined exactly what the squealing sound was BEFORE attempting to drive 70 miles down the freeway. :smack: ..... I WAS that guy!  :hammerhead:

Gnarls.  :blah:




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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1106 on: Dec 20, 2017, 07:20:06 AM »
Looks like the McDonald's edition with the red and yellow.
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1107 on: Dec 20, 2017, 11:39:44 AM »
Looks like the McDonald's edition with the red and yellow.

LOL... yeah... I'd call it a BIG MAC.. but I'd be exaggerating.... so I call it my Egg McMuffin Grande!!  :gap:

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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1108 on: Dec 20, 2017, 03:23:01 PM »
What color was the manifold before heat?
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Re: Gnarly4X's 22RE Rebuild
« Reply #1109 on: Dec 20, 2017, 04:03:36 PM »
What color was the manifold before heat?

knowing gnarls, I'd say pink!
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