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kneedownnate

#150
October 30, 2008, 11:22:35 PM
I don't fully agree with you on the rape thing, but you bring up a valid point that I can't disregard  :thumbs:
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Rocksurfer

#151
October 31, 2008, 08:02:56 AM
Quote from: kneedownnate on October 30, 2008, 11:22:35 PM
I don't fully agree with you on the rape thing, but you bring up a valid point that I can't disregard  :thumbs:

Just throwing bs out for the masses to absorb. :gap:
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79coyotefrg

#152
October 31, 2008, 09:12:44 AM
Quote from: Brandon on October 30, 2008, 09:14:09 PM
ok maybe bad example, how about your 12 year old got raped and pregnant by the 60 year old janitor?
having a teenage daughter my first thought when i read this was 'which gun i would use'?  then  the answer came to me,  the 22 with hollow points, start at his feet  and work my way up, slowly, over several hours
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abnormaltoy

#153
October 31, 2008, 09:35:25 AM
Quote from: Brandon on October 30, 2008, 09:14:09 PM
ok maybe bad example, how about your 12 year old got raped and pregnant by the 60 year old janitor?

OK...but how many of the 50 million abortions are a result of rape, incest or medical need (as opposed to convenience)?
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46&2

#154
October 31, 2008, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: abnormaltoy on October 31, 2008, 09:35:25 AM
OK...but how many of the 50 million abortions are a result of rape, incest or medical need (as opposed to convenience)?

I don't see abortion as a "convenience" by any means nor do I believe it should only be allowed in the aforementioned circumstances... in a day and age where overpopulation is already a huge concern and foster homes are overflowing with children who can't find parents who can adopt them, why is it a bad thing to end the existence of another "unwanted" baby... both in regards to the child itself and society. Late abortions are unacceptable, but I see no reason why only special circumstances should allow for an abortion. No, they should not be given out like candy but it should not be limited to just rape or incest victims either.
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abnormaltoy

#155
October 31, 2008, 12:31:18 PM
Quote from: fortysixandtwo on October 31, 2008, 12:11:27 PM
I don't see abortion as a "convenience" by any means nor do I believe it should only be allowed in the aforementioned circumstances... in a day and age where overpopulation is already a huge concern and foster homes are overflowing with children who can't find parents who can adopt them, why is it a bad thing to end the existence of another "unwanted" baby... both in regards to the child itself and society. Late abortions are unacceptable, but I see no reason why only special circumstances should allow for an abortion. No, they should not be given out like candy but it should not be limited to just rape or incest victims either.

Why not exercise some personal responsibility...if you don't want to "risk" having a baby, take the pill, use some other form of contraception or heaven forbid...don't throw your knees behind your head for just any guy that has a smooth line.
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

46&2

#156
October 31, 2008, 12:49:46 PM
Quote from: abnormaltoy on October 31, 2008, 12:31:18 PM
Why not exercise some personal responsibility...if you don't want to "risk" having a baby, take the pill, use some other form of contraception or heaven forbid...don't throw your knees behind your head for just any guy that has a smooth line.


Have sex much? Aside from abstinence, the pill and condoms are not a 100% guarantee against pregnancy. Most (3 out of 4) people I know that have had abortions are married, or long term relationships who were careful, and where the abortion benefited not only the child but the two people who were not in a position to support a child. Im not saying sluts wont abuse it, I am saying there are a lot more valid reasons to have an abortion and thus there need to be provisions to prevent abortion abuse.
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abnormaltoy

#157
October 31, 2008, 12:58:39 PM
Quote from: fortysixandtwo on October 31, 2008, 12:49:46 PM
Have sex much? Aside from abstinence, the pill and condoms are not a 100% guarantee against pregnancy. Most (3 out of 4) people I know that have had abortions are married, or long term relationships who were careful, and where the abortion benefited not only the child but the two people who were not in a position to support a child. Im not saying sluts wont abuse it, I am saying there are a lot more valid reasons to have an abortion and thus there need to be provisions to prevent abortion abuse.

Never enough...but, I may have turned down more than you've had  :gap:

I disagree, I feel that unless it's the oft mentioned, and rarely the case, rape or incest...it's a lack of responsibility or convenience...by both parties. More than that...I think it's a terrible waste of potential...50 million chances at greatness (more or less, depending on your source)...thrown in the land fill. Contraceptives aren't 100%...but...50 million errors?
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

Brandon

#158
October 31, 2008, 01:03:53 PM
there is a gray line for sure, but I have had um err condom failure (rippage) so it is possible.

I doubt anyone would go through an abortion for convenience, doesn't sound fun to me!
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RCRC, Sacramento, CA
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abnormaltoy

#159
October 31, 2008, 01:10:37 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 31, 2008, 01:03:53 PM
there is a gray line for sure, but I have had um err condom failure (rippage) so it is possible.

I doubt anyone would go through an abortion for convenience, doesn't sound fun to me!

I don't mean convenience...like the drive through at the dry cleaner...it's more convenient to abort the child than live up to the responsibility that comes with the decision to have sex.

Rippage is scary!  :yikes:
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

Brandon

#160
October 31, 2008, 01:32:27 PM
boy did we go OT :)

All opinions aside, not who do you want to win but who do you think will win?

I am on the fence, thought it would be McCain fo sure but not so sure now.
Brandon Miller
RCRC, Sacramento, CA
www.RiverCityRockCrawlers.com

abnormaltoy

#161
October 31, 2008, 01:40:56 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 31, 2008, 01:32:27 PM
boy did we go OT :)

All opinions aside, not who do you want to win but who do you think will win?

I am on the fence, thought it would be McCain fo sure but not so sure now.

I think, hope and pray McCain will win. The country may not be as far right as I am...but, history shows we a re a right-center electorate. The prospect of the most left wing Senator since Huey Long with Reid and Pelosi controlling Congress hopefully won't fly for Joe and June Sixpack. I just don't see enough of America willing to sacrifice for an ideology they don't support.
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

Brandon

#162
October 31, 2008, 01:47:14 PM
agreed, even though the poles point to Obama I will be surprised. Pretty sure he will win CA though - it's Florida and a few others that are gonna be critical..
Brandon Miller
RCRC, Sacramento, CA
www.RiverCityRockCrawlers.com

abnormaltoy

#163
October 31, 2008, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: Brandon on October 31, 2008, 01:47:14 PM
agreed, even though the poles point to Obama I will be surprised. Pretty sure he will win CA though - it's Florida and a few others that are gonna be critical..


Yep...it'll be a loooong time before California comes to it's senses!  :gap:

If Obama loses...I think I'll start a pool on how many law suits are brought by the Democrats.
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

Toymin8r

#164
October 31, 2008, 04:33:48 PM
At this point I just want it to be overwith.  I'm sick of politics and sick of seeing all the damn political commercials.   I'll be glad when its over no matter who wins.
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brainlessfool

#165
October 31, 2008, 05:25:51 PM
Quote from: Rocksurfer on October 30, 2008, 10:54:39 PM
Just the same as making the choice to be gay (and I believe it is a choice).

Choice me!  :love:
A good day working, that's just sick :reg:

46&2

#166
October 31, 2008, 05:31:33 PM
Quote from: Toymin8r on October 31, 2008, 04:33:48 PM
At this point I just want it to be overwith.  I'm sick of politics and sick of seeing all the damn political commercials.   I'll be glad when its over no matter who wins.

Yeah I hear you. Personally I am not very happy with either candidate, but I'd much prefer McCain over Obama. There are just too many questionable things about Obama and all his opinions on gun laws are enough for me to vote McCain. Who do I think will win? I have a feeling Obama will, but I can't say for certain. Only a few more days and we will find out though...
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brainlessfool

#167
November 01, 2008, 12:24:07 PM
found this.CHICAGO, Oct 15, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The following is the text of an open letter to the nation's hunters and sportsmen issued today by Illinois State Rifle Association Executive Director Richard Pearson:

Fellow Sportsman,
Hello, my name is Rich Pearson and I have been active in the firearm rights movement for over 40 years. For the past 15 years, I have served in the Illinois state capitol as the chief lobbyist for the Illinois State Rifle Association.

I lobbied Barack Obama extensively while he was an Illinois State Senator. As a result of that experience, I know Obama's attitudes toward guns and gun owners better than anyone. The truth be told, in all my years in the Capitol I have never met a legislator who harbors more contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner than does Barack Obama.

Although Obama claims to be an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, his voting record in the Illinois Senate paints a very different picture. While a state senator, Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners to forcibly confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer. Obama also voted for a bill that would prohibit law-abiding citizens from purchasing more than one gun per month.

Without a doubt, Barack Obama has proven himself to be an enemy of the law abiding firearm owner. At the same time, Obama has proven himself to be a friend to the hardened criminal. While a state senator, Obama voted 4 times against legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in defense of home and family.

Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a "friend" of the law-abiding gun owner?

And speaking of friends, you can always tell a person by the company they keep. Obama counts among his friends the Rev. Michael Pfleger - a renegade Chicago priest who has openly called for the murder of gun shop owners and pro-gun legislators. Then there is his buddy Richard Daley, the mayor of Chicago who has declared that if it were up to him, nobody would be allowed to own a gun. And let's not forget Obama's pal George Soros - the guy who has pumped millions of dollars into the UN's international effort to disarm law-abiding citizens.

Obama has shown that he is more than willing to use other people's money to fund his campaign to take your guns away from you. While a board member of the leftist Joyce Foundation, Barack Obama wrote checks for tens of millions of dollars to extremist gun control organizations such as the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence and the Violence Policy Center.

Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a "friend" of the law-abiding gun owner?

By now, I'm sure that many of you have received mailings from an organization called "American Hunters and Shooters Association(AHSA)" talking about what a swell fellow Obama is and how he honors the 2nd Amendment and how you will never have to worry about Obama coming to take your guns. Let me make it perfectly clear - everything the AHSA says about Obama is pure hogwash. The AHSA is headed by a group of left-wing elitists who subscribe to the British view of hunting and shooting. That is, a state of affairs where hunting and shooting are reserved for the wealthy upper-crust who can afford guided hunts on exclusive private reserves. The AHSA is not your friend, never will be.

In closing, I'd like to remind you that I'm a guy who has actually gone nose to nose with Obama on gun rights issues. The Obama I know cannot even begin to identify with this nation's outdoor traditions. The Obama I know sees you, the law abiding gun owner, as nothing but a low-class lummox who is easily swayed by the flash of a smile and a ration of rosy rhetoric. The Obama I know is a stony-faced liar who has honed his skill at getting what he wants - so long as people are willing to give it to him.
That's the Barack Obama I know.

The ISRA is the state's leading advocate of safe, lawful and responsible firearms ownership. Founded in 1903, the ISRA has represented the interests of millions of law-abiding Illinois firearm owners.

WEB SITE: http://www.isra.org
SOURCE Illinois State Rifle Association

A good day working, that's just sick :reg:

46&2

#168
November 01, 2008, 01:09:50 PM
 :werd:
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BLACKDOG

#169
November 01, 2008, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: fortysixandtwo on October 31, 2008, 05:31:33 PM
Yeah I hear you. Personally I am not very happy with either candidate, but I'd much prefer McCain over Obama. There are just too many questionable things about Obama and all his opinions on gun laws are enough for me to vote McCain. Who do I think will win? I have a feeling Obama will, but I can't say for certain. Only a few more days and we will find out though...

:werd:

Quote from: fortysixandtwo on October 31, 2008, 12:11:27 PM
I don't see abortion as a "convenience" by any means nor do I believe it should only be allowed in the aforementioned circumstances... in a day and age where overpopulation is already a huge concern and foster homes are overflowing with children who can't find parents who can adopt them, why is it a bad thing to end the existence of another "unwanted" baby... both in regards to the child itself and society. Late abortions are unacceptable, but I see no reason why only special circumstances should allow for an abortion. No, they should not be given out like candy but it should not be limited to just rape or incest victims either.

THis brings another issue to light.  Its not so much that foster homes can't find parents, but that there is SO much red tape for people to adopt kids.  In many circumstances, its actually easier to adopt a child from overseas than it is an American kid. 
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abnormaltoy

#170
November 01, 2008, 06:48:51 PM
I don't know if this has been posted in this thread or not...but,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
The things that come to those who wait, may be the things left by those who got there first.

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill

Censorship, that most subtle tool of oppression, the tool of the fearful and small minded. 8/15/2008

"It is interesting that we are asked to NOT judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics. Too bad gun owners can't get same judgment."
Travis Tritt (I know!)

Toymin8r

#171
November 02, 2008, 06:23:08 AM
 :rivers:    :down:




On a funnier note.   I was working the front door at a local bar last night and one of the customer's came in with a very flashy pro-Obama t-shirt and it was full of support pins for hims also.  As he was paying his cover charge a guy walked up to him and said, "hey man, give me $20 bucks".  I for a second thought there was gonna be trouble but after the Obama nut looked at him a little puzzled the guy then said, "spread the wealth"  Even the Obama nut had to laugh a little bit but I was rolling on the floor.
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kneedownnate

#172
November 02, 2008, 10:02:15 AM
Was it an "I kinda agree with you" laugh, or was it an "this guy might just kick my ass" laugh?
RIP KYOTA

You can go through life being scared of the possible, or you can have a little fun and tease the inevitable.

Give a man venison, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to hunt Blacktail, he'll be frustrated for life!

Toymin8r

#173
November 02, 2008, 01:56:48 PM
both!
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AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE DUCT TAPE.

IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU HAVE AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.


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COToy91

#174
November 03, 2008, 08:33:15 PM
Just would like to point out the title has a typo......

Learn to spell freaking
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BLACKDOG

#175
November 03, 2008, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: COToy91 on November 03, 2008, 08:33:15 PM
Just would like to point out the title has a typo......

Learn to spell freaking

Just noticed huh?  Its already been pointed out.
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"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

COToy91

#176
November 03, 2008, 09:12:17 PM
I have not said anything in this thread since the start, when someone typed a threat towards a presidential candidate like an idiot. So yes, I did just noticed. There are already ten of this same exact thread, with the same arguments and same responses. Thank God He will probably win tomorrow so we can see the 20+ now my guns are gone and our country is going to crap treads about our new president....

I Voted For Obama Btw :biggthumpup:

Oh and maybe if he didn't choose Pailin, who i wouldn't even trust to count change, I might, just maybe, would have voted McCain.

Flame away on my unaffiliated butt, cause this whole thread is  :bull crap: and 95% media crap and hearsay
Colorado...its where the cool kids live

Rocksurfer

#177
November 03, 2008, 09:31:43 PM
eh you only voted for him because they had their convention there. :cheese:
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COToy91

#178
November 03, 2008, 09:33:31 PM
All that did was piss me off, traffic nightmare.

But Arapahoe county could help decide this election, I live in Douglas though

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/03/these-6-swing-counties-could-decide-the-election/
Colorado...its where the cool kids live

Rocksurfer

#179
November 03, 2008, 09:35:28 PM
 :haha: That's what you get for voting for him.
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