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« Reply #360 on: Nov 08, 2008, 01:45:03 PM »
I think they both are.



Ok, I  can agree with that. :greengrin:
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« Reply #361 on: Nov 08, 2008, 03:06:05 PM »
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The downfall of Socialism and it's economic model is that there aren't enough people to pull the wagon, if everyone is getting a free ride.

Excellent analogy! Creates the perfect visual.

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your all closed minded fools if you ask me..... as I said earlier he is our new president if you dont like it move your stupid   to canada or elsewhere.... we dont need your negative attitudes in times like this.....he cant be any worse than bush and mccain is just another bush! haha all you who dont like it....

Sir, I think that we are trying to have an intellegent conversation about what we percieve the risks that the president elect may be bringing to the table. Most of the opinions expressed here are well thought out and based on what is seen as reality. It is however speculation because he has not yet taken office, but based on his previous record and the ideals he expouses, I think that we have reason to be concerned. I don't think that any of us WANT this to happen, but we are concerned that it will and that we have little recourse.

Your attitude and endless name calling is basically immature, and does nothing to contribute to the discussion. If you feel so strongly about the virtues of Obama, please explain why in an intelligent and well thought out way so that we can all gain from your percieved wisdom. If it is simply "my guy won and yours lost" then I'd respectfully ask you to stop the silliness. As a great patriot once wrote, I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to your opinion.

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« Reply #362 on: Nov 08, 2008, 03:09:43 PM »
Too many big words....  I had to look most of them up but they make you look smart....  I are dumb. :hahaha:
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« Reply #363 on: Nov 08, 2008, 03:17:52 PM »
Sorry, the smaller word version...

Sir, I think that we are trying to have an [smart talk] about what we [believe] the risks that the president elect may be bringing to the table. Most of the opinions written here are well thought out and based on what is seen as reality. It is however a [guessing game] because he has not yet taken office, but based on his [earlier] record and the ideals he [talks about], I think that we have reason to be [scared]. I don't think that any of us WANT this to happen, but we are worried that it will and that we have little [chance to stop it].

Your attitude and endless name calling is basically [stupid], and does nothing to add to the discussion. If you feel so strongly about the [wonders] of Obama, please explain why in [an smart] and well thought out way so that we can all gain from your [self described insight]. If it is simply "my guy won and yours lost" then I'd respectfully ask you to stop the silliness. As a great patriot once wrote, I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to your opinion.


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Re: obama, freeking retard
« Reply #364 on: Nov 08, 2008, 03:25:07 PM »
Too many big words....  I had to look most of them up but they make you look smart....  I are dumb. :hahaha:
hmm interesting

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« Reply #365 on: Nov 08, 2008, 03:35:29 PM »
Sorry, the smaller word version...




Dude, I'm an outspoken assbag at times but I do have a vocabulary damnit! :hahaha:
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« Reply #366 on: Nov 08, 2008, 03:55:59 PM »
just out of curiosity (not favoring the idea). does anything think that ever since out nation has been founded and been fighting for equality and freedom that there is such thing as to much freedom? this interest me because (in general) i could see a democracy downfall due to there being such a wide diversity in opinions and actions. seems to me that instead of having a 80-20 percent disagreement or agreement like how it was back when out country shared more similar beliefs, today we have more like a 50-50 percent agreement disagreement. thought its extremely important to encourage ultimate freedom of choice, could this in turn be the one thing that destroys a nation. the reason i state this is couse it seems like people are becoming more and more on separate pages in beliefs which intern causes less cooperate interaction from those who disagree with a belief (which lately seems to be half out country). in other words For Example, back when bush and gore were fighting for presidency, the outcome was so close that 50% of America was either for or against bush. since there's such a big push for freedom of belief and thoughts, there is an increase in diversity (which is good...but is there such thing as to much). if 50% of America is against what bush does then IMO thats a big problem. considering that im not of old age correct me if im wrong but it seems that back when world war 2 (etc) was going on our country thought more alike since things were more 'old fashioned' and instead of raising children like how they did... which was the children usually thought and did what your parents did, the new generation is born into the idea of you are your own individual. just curious to see what other people thing about this ideology (that is-if any of it makes sense). DON'T get me wrong wrong i think equality and freedom is the best thing a country can offer but just curious if other people think that there is such things as becoming to much of a democracy.  

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« Reply #367 on: Nov 08, 2008, 05:14:21 PM »
The amount of freedom is not the problem....  Quite the contrary its the attempted regulation of making "fair" sure as hell is the problem.  Life is not fair and no amount of regulation will make it be.  If you see a poor person and think it's not fair for them to be poor when there is a rich guy walking by and you take money from the rich guy and give it to the poor person that is unfair to the rich guy now isn't it?  Afterall the rich guy had to work for his money so why shouldn't the poor person be expected to do the same?

This is the land of opportunity, if you can't make it here you should kill yourself as you have EVERY chance to make it here. If you are too stupid or lazy to go out and seize those opportunities you should not expect anyone to hand you anything for free in the name of fairness.
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« Reply #368 on: Nov 08, 2008, 05:38:26 PM »
that had nothing what so ever to do with what i was talking about, y are you leading back to the whole tax issue? and i do believe this is a land has endless opportunity but i don't believe in it necessarily equal. for example the difference between new money and old money. the statement of everyone has EVERY chance to make it here it pretty vague and i think its easier said that deeply thought about or actually done. do you believe that the majority of people struggling for money are lazy?

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« Reply #369 on: Nov 08, 2008, 05:47:11 PM »
There are many things that people don't know about history. Most of the time the people that have the most to say about something know the least about what there talking about. First off redistribution of wealth was first used(in this country) after the great depression in order to stabilize the economy. As well as many regulations that we use today, including federal insurance for individuals who chose to use bank accounts. Many people listen to television pundits and "experts" insted of forming there own opinions. If you really want to have an educated opinion about something you need to read and research things on your own. IN this day and age with the modern marvel of the internet there is no reason you should form opinions based on things that others say are true. Our country has come a long way and will continue to get better. After all this country was formed by people that wanted their own religious and human rights. If they had been the same as there fathers and forefathers before them we would still be under British rule today. Whether McCain or obama had one our country would change no matter what, its just a matter of timing. Without the want and need for humans to explore new things we would still be hunting and gathering. And a final note is this. If rich people did not support a new tax plan that includes a higher tax break for the poor and middle class Obama simply wouldn't have been elected. All of the wealthiest states with the highest per capita earnings voted to elect obama. SO if your looking for someone to blame for increasing taxes on the rich you have, well the rich to blame for that. Its interesting that the states that would benefit from redistribution the most often vote republican and against redistribution. SO before you write off someones administration lets wait and see what he does first. And lets get past pointing the finger at what started what and work together to restore our great nation.

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« Reply #370 on: Nov 08, 2008, 06:00:58 PM »
There are many things that people don't know about history. Most of the time the people that have the most to say about something know the least about what there talking about. First off redistribution of wealth was first used(in this country) after the great depression in order to stabilize the economy. As well as many regulations that we use today, including federal insurance for individuals who chose to use bank accounts. Many people listen to television pundits and "experts" insted of forming there own opinions. If you really want to have an educated opinion about something you need to read and research things on your own. IN this day and age with the modern marvel of the internet there is no reason you should form opinions based on things that others say are true. Our country has come a long way and will continue to get better. After all this country was formed by people that wanted their own religious and human rights. If they had been the same as there fathers and forefathers before them we would still be under British rule today. Whether McCain or obama had one our country would change no matter what, its just a matter of timing. Without the want and need for humans to explore new things we would still be hunting and gathering. And a final note is this. If rich people did not support a new tax plan that includes a higher tax break for the poor and middle class Obama simply wouldn't have been elected. All of the wealthiest states with the highest per capita earnings voted to elect obama. SO if your looking for someone to blame for increasing taxes on the rich you have, well the rich to blame for that. Its interesting that the states that would benefit from redistribution the most often vote republican and against redistribution. SO before you write off someones administration lets wait and see what he does first. And lets get past pointing the finger at what started what and work together to restore our great nation.

im glad someone made that point because it seems like there are many people that think this is a new unfair proposal that will screw everything over. its been like that for MAnyy years, its just been increased to correspond with inflation and many other economic issues, in Theory hoping to boots the economy.

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« Reply #371 on: Nov 08, 2008, 06:13:44 PM »
that had nothing what so ever to do with what i was talking about, y are you leading back to the whole tax issue? and i do believe this is a land has endless opportunity but i don't believe in it necessarily equal. for example the difference between new money and old money. the statement of everyone has EVERY chance to make it here it pretty vague and i think its easier said that deeply thought about or actually done. do you believe that the majority of people struggling for money are lazy?

I was only using the tax base as an example.  It seems everyone is so caught up in fairness and over regulating everything that they are willing to give in on certain freedoms and I find that appalling.

I think most of the people that are struggling are there due to their own actions.  Just because someone is willing to finance you for something you really can't afford doesn't mean someone else should bail you out when you can't afford the payments.  I can get financed for a much larger house than I'm in, a flat screen tv and a new truck to tow my yota with.  You won't catch me doing any of those as if something were to happen to my wife or I we'd be screwed..... 




Just because redistribution has been tried before sure as hell doesn't mean it should be tried again...   Last I checked the US supplying the efforts of our allies and the subsequent entrance into WWII is what bailed us out of the great depression....  Taking money from those that have in order to give to those that have not is great when it is voluntary...  Remember, conservatives are generous with their money, liberals are generous with yours....  ;)
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« Reply #372 on: Nov 08, 2008, 06:25:56 PM »
i understand what you are talking about with home mortgage lending but many of the people who are struggling right now in America had nothing to do with moving into another home they couldn't afford, let alone thats just one part of why America is in a recession right now.
 
not trying to be a richard or argue with you but can you go more into detail about "It seems everyone is so caught up in fairness and over regulating everything that they are willing to give in on certain freedoms and I find that appalling."

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« Reply #373 on: Nov 08, 2008, 06:35:51 PM »
I was only using the tax base as an example.  It seems everyone is so caught up in fairness and over regulating everything that they are willing to give in on certain freedoms and I find that appalling.

I think most of the people that are struggling are there due to their own actions.  Just because someone is willing to finance you for something you really can't afford doesn't mean someone else should bail you out when you can't afford the payments.  I can get financed for a much larger house than I'm in, a flat screen tv and a new truck to tow my yota with.  You won't catch me doing any of those as if something were to happen to my wife or I we'd be screwed..... 




Just because redistribution has been tried before sure as hell doesn't mean it should be tried again...   Last I checked the US supplying the efforts of our allies and the subsequent entrance into WWII is what bailed us out of the great depression....  Taking money from those that have in order to give to those that have not is great when it is voluntary...  Remember, conservatives are generous with their money, liberals are generous with yours....  ;)

the U.S tax system is a Progressive tax meaning the more you make the more you pay in taxes, it hasn't just been tried its been this way ever since it was created manyy years ago. liberals are more generous with money in general, conservatives usually aren't as generous which is why Republicans (which Are Not always but usually) more conservative, this also corresponds with traditional republicans always wanting to lower taxes.

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« Reply #374 on: Nov 08, 2008, 06:36:24 PM »
the U.S tax system is a progressive taxation meaning the more you make the more you pay in taxes, it hasn't just been tried its been this way ever since it was created manyy years ago. liberals are more generous with money in general, conservatives usually aren't as generous which is why Republicans (which Are Not always but usually) more conservative, this also corresponds with traditional republicans always wanting to lower taxes.

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« Reply #375 on: Nov 08, 2008, 07:05:36 PM »
SO before you write off someones administration lets wait and see what he does first. And lets get past pointing the finger at what started what and work together to restore our great nation.

I'm with ya on this.  People are already writing Obama off as the worst President, guess what, he hasn't even taken office yet!  He maybe the best president elect we've ever had, but people are writing him off already.   :shake_head:  Look at President Jim Carter, he didn't get the credit he deserved, until a decade later.  And he was a good president, he was in office in a bad economic time for USA.  Just like now!  

I think most of the people that are struggling are there due to their own actions.  Just because someone is willing to finance you for something you really can't afford doesn't mean someone else should bail you out when you can't afford the payments.  I can get financed for a much larger house than I'm in, a flat screen tv and a new truck to tow my yota with.  You won't catch me doing any of those as if something were to happen to my wife or I we'd be screwed..... 

I agree big time on this.  I blame the financial institutions and the people that over extended their credit for alot of this too!!  

I think we need to let the dust settle and see were we are at!  Just this week Iraq wanted us to give them a date on troop withdrawl.  And they want it within the next year!  That's good!  That's 9 billion we don't have to send to Iraq a month!  

Let's just step back for a while and see where we are headed!  The country voted for Obama, and we should give him a chance, and if in a year we are really screwed, then let's start the process to get rid of him!  But until then, let's just see where the road takes us!


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« Reply #376 on: Nov 08, 2008, 07:34:09 PM »
The stock market crash was caused by many things. not just people defaulting on their loans.  Loans that banks give to people are sold off in bulk accounts at a premium to other banks that hold the note.  Basically as these loans began to fail other banks and investment groups stopped buying up the loans.  This freeze in debt buying caused federal loan intrest rates to increase causing % to rise further causing loans to go bad.  The financial market is so complecated that you cant just blame people who defaulted on their loans, after all nobody wants to lose their home.  Another large downfall in this current crash is the fact that over 55% of stocks are now controlled (baught and sold) by risk managment computer systems.  As the stocks started to fall the programs started to dump stocks.  These programs work great when things are good, however nobody thought about what would happen in a large scale decline in the market.  So the more these programs dumped stock the higher the risk return ratio fell causing more stocks to fall, so on and so on.  So with a few more regulations on the free market and some new programming safeguards and a little faith in the market and things will be fine.   :)

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« Reply #377 on: Nov 08, 2008, 08:13:07 PM »
just out of curiosity (not favoring the idea). does anything think that ever since out nation has been founded and been fighting for equality and freedom that there is such thing as to much freedom? this interest me because (in general) i could see a democracy downfall due to there being such a wide diversity in opinions and actions. seems to me that instead of having a 80-20 percent disagreement or agreement like how it was back when out country shared more similar beliefs, today we have more like a 50-50 percent agreement disagreement. thought its extremely important to encourage ultimate freedom of choice, could this in turn be the one thing that destroys a nation. the reason i state this is couse it seems like people are becoming more and more on separate pages in beliefs which intern causes less cooperate interaction from those who disagree with a belief (which lately seems to be half out country). in other words For Example, back when bush and gore were fighting for presidency, the outcome was so close that 50% of America was either for or against bush. since there's such a big push for freedom of belief and thoughts, there is an increase in diversity (which is good...but is there such thing as to much). if 50% of America is against what bush does then IMO thats a big problem. considering that im not of old age correct me if im wrong but it seems that back when world war 2 (etc) was going on our country thought more alike since things were more 'old fashioned' and instead of raising children like how they did... which was the children usually thought and did what your parents did, the new generation is born into the idea of you are your own individual. just curious to see what other people thing about this ideology (that is-if any of it makes sense). DON'T get me wrong wrong i think equality and freedom is the best thing a country can offer but just curious if other people think that there is such things as becoming to much of a democracy.  

First of all...dissent is much needed and as much a part of the fabric of our nation as the desire for freedom. I disagree that children "did what your parents did"...true there were expectations of civil behavior, conformity to certain standards and respect for authority figures...we were all taught that we we individuals and that our success was in our hands no matter our backgrounds. I think it's regretful that many of the old standards are forgotten...society, as a whole, is much coarser now.

I detect a slight bias in your statement emphasizing an anti-Bush percentage...doesn't it also mean that 50% were against Gore?

You ask...if there can be too much diversity, I think in some ways there can. That is where the phrase Balkanized comes from...a form of "divide and conquer". This is, politically, one of the things the left has done so well, we are becoming Balkanized...a hyphenated America.

Equality...we are all equal under the law (depending on how much money you have for lawyers  :gap:)and we are all given the same opportunities at birth...other than that we are, rightly so, on our own. As long as no one blocks you illegally, you are free to follow what ever path you choose...with a little luck, the right idea and enough hard work...you will achieve success to some degree.
Other than those equalities...we are not equal. Some are stronger, some are smarter and some can build things...we all have abilities, just not equal abilities.
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« Reply #378 on: Nov 08, 2008, 08:17:39 PM »
liberals are more generous with money in general, conservatives usually aren't as generous which is why Republicans (which Are Not always but usually) more conservative, this also corresponds with traditional republicans always wanting to lower taxes.


A small correction...Liberals are more generous with other people's money.

Other than what is clearly put forth in the Constitution...what right does someone else have to the fruits of your labor?

Aren't you able to best decide how to spend your money and to which charity, if any, you choose to donate to?
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« Reply #379 on: Nov 08, 2008, 09:15:12 PM »
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Dude, I'm an outspoken assbag at times but I do have a vocabulary damnit

WT, I've always known you're a lot smarter than anyone (including you) give yourself credit for. I did this merly as entertainment for you, and cleared it up for some of our more "challenged" readers.
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« Reply #380 on: Nov 08, 2008, 09:21:05 PM »
not trying to be a richard or argue with you but can you go more into detail about "It seems everyone is so caught up in fairness and over regulating everything that they are willing to give in on certain freedoms and I find that appalling."


Simple, people are willing to give up part of their rights in order to feel safe or to get what they want etc...  Perfect example is gun control.  People feel safer when gun sales are limited as to what kind, how many, and where you are allowed to carry/transport them.  Yet facts prove that by limiting the legal purchase of a gun has jack squat to do with crime rates... The criminals don't go to gi joe's and buy an assault rifle over the counter so all the bans and restrictions do is limit the law abiding citizen.  




:hahaha: No worries Germ I was just talking a bit of smack..  Although your revision should have been done up as if it came from idiocracy...  :greengrin:
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« Reply #381 on: Nov 08, 2008, 10:09:54 PM »
I somewhat apologize for the length of this post, but alot has happened in the few hours I was gone, and some of this I felt I had to respond to. Rather than make a bunch of isolated posts, I thought I'd put them all together with appropriate quotes.

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this interest me because (in general) i could see a democracy downfall due to there being such a wide diversity in opinions and actions. seems to me that instead of having a 80-20 percent disagreement or agreement like how it was back when out country shared more similar beliefs, today we have more like a 50-50 percent agreement disagreement. thought its extremely important to encourage ultimate freedom of choice, could this in turn be the one thing that destroys a nation. the reason i state this is couse it seems like people are becoming more and more on separate pages in beliefs which intern causes less cooperate interaction from those who disagree with a belief (which lately seems to be half out country).

I think you're onto something here, which I've suspected for quite some time, but until you posed the question, I really hadn't thought to put it into words. Now, you'll also have to bear with me, 'cause I have not read any of the responses yet, and this may be a repeat of others opinions.

The point I believe your trying to make is that everyone has come to believe that "their" point of view is as valid or more valid than anyone elses. Rather than find the general point of view that most conforms to your particular opinion, and work within those constructs. This is the idea that each individual is correct no matter how far out their perceptions may be, and no one else is able to refute this. This prevents them from having to re-evaluate their postions based on more information and feedback.

I strongly believe that this mindset has been put into motion by the more liberal of the university/higher education class (also known as the chattering class). They are loath to tell someone that their idea is "just plain dumb" because it may shatter what little self respect the person still has, and of course everyone needs to feel good about themselves. Instead they validate these far off, whacky ideas by rubbing their chin and muttering "interesting".

I'd agree that this has validated every far-flung, wierd idea that anyone comes up with, and makes it just as valid as any other well thought out idea that is out there, thus giving intelligence and stupidity equality.

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DON'T get me wrong wrong i think equality and freedom is the best thing a country can offer but just curious if other people think that there is such things as becoming to much of a democracy.

I believe "equality" really should be expanded on to say that "every one has equal opportunity" to pursue their goals, and the freedom to do so as long as it doesn't infringe on others freedoms.

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If rich people did not support a new tax plan that includes a higher tax break for the poor and middle class Obama simply wouldn't have been elected. All of the wealthiest states with the highest per capita earnings voted to elect obama. SO if your looking for someone to blame for increasing taxes on the rich you have, well the rich to blame for that. Its interesting that the states that would benefit from redistribution the most often vote republican and against redistribution.

I'd have to disagree with you on this point. Obama did get 52% of the popular vote, but got a significantly higher percentage of the Electoral College vote, which was not representative of the popular vote. No matter what any of us would like to believe, we do not elect the president. The electoral college does. They have no mandate to conform to the popular vote, and can basically vote however they wish. Doesn't make one iota of difference wether your rich or poor, or who you vote for, the president is elected by the electoral college. The only place our "popular" vote really counts is with Governors, congress, senate, state assembly, local politicians and propositions.

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You ask...if there can be too much diversity, I think in some ways there can. That is where the phrase Balkanized comes from...a form of "divide and conquer". This is, politically, one of the things the left has done so well, we are becoming Balkanized...a hyphenated America.

Equality...we are all equal under the law (depending on how much money you have for lawyers  )and we are all given the same opportunities at birth...other than that we are, rightly so, on our own. As long as no one blocks you illegally, you are free to follow what ever path you choose...with a little luck, the right idea and enough hard work...you will achieve success to some degree.
Other than those equalities...we are not equal. Some are stronger, some are smarter and some can build things...we all have abilities, just not equal abilities.

As always, I'm impressed with your comments.
I would add that the idea of "divide and conquer" while very well executed by the left is a "political dogma" that spans all political spectrum. Many (not all) in Govt believe that we (the little people) are too stupid to govern ourselves, and therefore need the "enlightened" government to step in and do it for us. Too this end, they try to tell us only what they think we would like to hear, and only a portion of that. We have become (as a general rule and painted with a broad brush) politically stupid. Very few could even tell you what the different branches of the government are let alone what each one does. Ask most people to tell you what a piece of legislation is about and most couldn't get past the headline title of it, which rarely has much to do with the actual contents.

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Re: obama, freeking retard
« Reply #382 on: Nov 08, 2008, 10:14:46 PM »
Equality...we are all equal under the law (depending on how much money you have for lawyers  :gap:)

slightly off-topic, but this is 100%TRUE. I was given a sheet by my lawyer the other day that listed the amount I could pay VS the amount of jail time i could receive. It was perfectly inversely proportional. (the more you pay, the less you get and vice-verse)

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« Reply #383 on: Nov 08, 2008, 10:34:01 PM »
I think bottom feeding scum suckers....erh lawyers, are really the only ones who will survive all of this. They get paid by both sides to argue minute points to oblivion and to the point that everyone has lost sight of what the whole argument was about in the first place.
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« Reply #384 on: Nov 08, 2008, 10:38:18 PM »
I think bottom feeding scum suckers....erh lawyers, are really the only ones who will survive all of this. They get paid by both sides to argue minute points to oblivion and to the point that everyone has lost sight of what the whole argument was about in the first place.


They will file lawsuit after lawsuit claiming there is a separation between church and state...  Yet they make money in divorce cases...  Uhhhhhhhhh   :eek:
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« Reply #385 on: Nov 08, 2008, 10:43:31 PM »
They are also the ones who write the laws, and make them so damned confusing that only another BFSS (bottom feeding scum sucker) could possibly figure it out. This of course justifies their existence, and ensures future returns. They also make things specifically vague so that they can argue the fine points for decades and continue to reap huge returns. It's all self preservation I tell you.

How hard is it to write: It's illegal to kill someone unless it's self defense.

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« Reply #386 on: Nov 08, 2008, 10:47:28 PM »
I'll have to find it again... But I used to have a page bookmarked that linked to different facts...  Like up until the 60's the "law" book was only like 175 pages, now its in the hundreds of thousands....   

Just remember this one simple fact....  It takes more words to argue the wrong side of the argument..
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« Reply #387 on: Nov 08, 2008, 10:56:36 PM »
It takes more words to argue the wrong side of the argument..

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« Reply #388 on: Nov 08, 2008, 10:59:07 PM »
I do my best to keep things simple....  If you can't pick up what I'm putting down in 200 words or less you are retarded and your gene pool needs some chlorine added to it...
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« Reply #389 on: Nov 09, 2008, 02:58:21 AM »
My point about who voted for obama and the tax plan was a bit missunderstood.  I was trying to be tactful in explaining how the electoral vote was and is cast... Its pretty simple but i guess it needs explaining.  Larger states with larger populations get more electoral votes,  These larger states with more electoral votes have larger populations,higher education levels and wealth.  I was simply trying to show that poor states, (that would benefit from low income help ) vote against it.  And larger states with greater wealth voted for it.  And id like to say i find it amazing how many people who have posted in this topic sound so angry.  We are all in this thing together.  I know it sounds lame but we can accomplish more together than fighting eachother.  If your worried about bills passing and laws passing, be constructive and write or call the appropriate place and voice your opinion.  If they want to pass laws banning gun sales, we call, write and do whatever we can.  Like someone said earlier, the government works for us. Lastly, if Obama fucks everything up you wont see another democrat in the white house for a very long time.  So lets just see what happends. 

 
 
 
 
 

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