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I think they both are.
The downfall of Socialism and it's economic model is that there aren't enough people to pull the wagon, if everyone is getting a free ride.
your all closed minded fools if you ask me..... as I said earlier he is our new president if you dont like it move your stupid to canada or elsewhere.... we dont need your negative attitudes in times like this.....he cant be any worse than bush and mccain is just another bush! haha all you who dont like it....
Too many big words.... I had to look most of them up but they make you look smart.... I are dumb.
Sorry, the smaller word version...
There are many things that people don't know about history. Most of the time the people that have the most to say about something know the least about what there talking about. First off redistribution of wealth was first used(in this country) after the great depression in order to stabilize the economy. As well as many regulations that we use today, including federal insurance for individuals who chose to use bank accounts. Many people listen to television pundits and "experts" insted of forming there own opinions. If you really want to have an educated opinion about something you need to read and research things on your own. IN this day and age with the modern marvel of the internet there is no reason you should form opinions based on things that others say are true. Our country has come a long way and will continue to get better. After all this country was formed by people that wanted their own religious and human rights. If they had been the same as there fathers and forefathers before them we would still be under British rule today. Whether McCain or obama had one our country would change no matter what, its just a matter of timing. Without the want and need for humans to explore new things we would still be hunting and gathering. And a final note is this. If rich people did not support a new tax plan that includes a higher tax break for the poor and middle class Obama simply wouldn't have been elected. All of the wealthiest states with the highest per capita earnings voted to elect obama. SO if your looking for someone to blame for increasing taxes on the rich you have, well the rich to blame for that. Its interesting that the states that would benefit from redistribution the most often vote republican and against redistribution. SO before you write off someones administration lets wait and see what he does first. And lets get past pointing the finger at what started what and work together to restore our great nation.
that had nothing what so ever to do with what i was talking about, y are you leading back to the whole tax issue? and i do believe this is a land has endless opportunity but i don't believe in it necessarily equal. for example the difference between new money and old money. the statement of everyone has EVERY chance to make it here it pretty vague and i think its easier said that deeply thought about or actually done. do you believe that the majority of people struggling for money are lazy?
I was only using the tax base as an example. It seems everyone is so caught up in fairness and over regulating everything that they are willing to give in on certain freedoms and I find that appalling. I think most of the people that are struggling are there due to their own actions. Just because someone is willing to finance you for something you really can't afford doesn't mean someone else should bail you out when you can't afford the payments. I can get financed for a much larger house than I'm in, a flat screen tv and a new truck to tow my yota with. You won't catch me doing any of those as if something were to happen to my wife or I we'd be screwed..... Just because redistribution has been tried before sure as hell doesn't mean it should be tried again... Last I checked the US supplying the efforts of our allies and the subsequent entrance into WWII is what bailed us out of the great depression.... Taking money from those that have in order to give to those that have not is great when it is voluntary... Remember, conservatives are generous with their money, liberals are generous with yours....
the U.S tax system is a progressive taxation meaning the more you make the more you pay in taxes, it hasn't just been tried its been this way ever since it was created manyy years ago. liberals are more generous with money in general, conservatives usually aren't as generous which is why Republicans (which Are Not always but usually) more conservative, this also corresponds with traditional republicans always wanting to lower taxes.
SO before you write off someones administration lets wait and see what he does first. And lets get past pointing the finger at what started what and work together to restore our great nation.
I think most of the people that are struggling are there due to their own actions. Just because someone is willing to finance you for something you really can't afford doesn't mean someone else should bail you out when you can't afford the payments. I can get financed for a much larger house than I'm in, a flat screen tv and a new truck to tow my yota with. You won't catch me doing any of those as if something were to happen to my wife or I we'd be screwed.....
just out of curiosity (not favoring the idea). does anything think that ever since out nation has been founded and been fighting for equality and freedom that there is such thing as to much freedom? this interest me because (in general) i could see a democracy downfall due to there being such a wide diversity in opinions and actions. seems to me that instead of having a 80-20 percent disagreement or agreement like how it was back when out country shared more similar beliefs, today we have more like a 50-50 percent agreement disagreement. thought its extremely important to encourage ultimate freedom of choice, could this in turn be the one thing that destroys a nation. the reason i state this is couse it seems like people are becoming more and more on separate pages in beliefs which intern causes less cooperate interaction from those who disagree with a belief (which lately seems to be half out country). in other words For Example, back when bush and gore were fighting for presidency, the outcome was so close that 50% of America was either for or against bush. since there's such a big push for freedom of belief and thoughts, there is an increase in diversity (which is good...but is there such thing as to much). if 50% of America is against what bush does then IMO thats a big problem. considering that im not of old age correct me if im wrong but it seems that back when world war 2 (etc) was going on our country thought more alike since things were more 'old fashioned' and instead of raising children like how they did... which was the children usually thought and did what your parents did, the new generation is born into the idea of you are your own individual. just curious to see what other people thing about this ideology (that is-if any of it makes sense). DON'T get me wrong wrong i think equality and freedom is the best thing a country can offer but just curious if other people think that there is such things as becoming to much of a democracy.
liberals are more generous with money in general, conservatives usually aren't as generous which is why Republicans (which Are Not always but usually) more conservative, this also corresponds with traditional republicans always wanting to lower taxes.
Dude, I'm an outspoken assbag at times but I do have a vocabulary damnit
not trying to be a richard or argue with you but can you go more into detail about "It seems everyone is so caught up in fairness and over regulating everything that they are willing to give in on certain freedoms and I find that appalling."
this interest me because (in general) i could see a democracy downfall due to there being such a wide diversity in opinions and actions. seems to me that instead of having a 80-20 percent disagreement or agreement like how it was back when out country shared more similar beliefs, today we have more like a 50-50 percent agreement disagreement. thought its extremely important to encourage ultimate freedom of choice, could this in turn be the one thing that destroys a nation. the reason i state this is couse it seems like people are becoming more and more on separate pages in beliefs which intern causes less cooperate interaction from those who disagree with a belief (which lately seems to be half out country).
DON'T get me wrong wrong i think equality and freedom is the best thing a country can offer but just curious if other people think that there is such things as becoming to much of a democracy.
If rich people did not support a new tax plan that includes a higher tax break for the poor and middle class Obama simply wouldn't have been elected. All of the wealthiest states with the highest per capita earnings voted to elect obama. SO if your looking for someone to blame for increasing taxes on the rich you have, well the rich to blame for that. Its interesting that the states that would benefit from redistribution the most often vote republican and against redistribution.
You ask...if there can be too much diversity, I think in some ways there can. That is where the phrase Balkanized comes from...a form of "divide and conquer". This is, politically, one of the things the left has done so well, we are becoming Balkanized...a hyphenated America. Equality...we are all equal under the law (depending on how much money you have for lawyers )and we are all given the same opportunities at birth...other than that we are, rightly so, on our own. As long as no one blocks you illegally, you are free to follow what ever path you choose...with a little luck, the right idea and enough hard work...you will achieve success to some degree.Other than those equalities...we are not equal. Some are stronger, some are smarter and some can build things...we all have abilities, just not equal abilities.
Equality...we are all equal under the law (depending on how much money you have for lawyers )
I think bottom feeding scum suckers....erh lawyers, are really the only ones who will survive all of this. They get paid by both sides to argue minute points to oblivion and to the point that everyone has lost sight of what the whole argument was about in the first place.
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