Back from the dead, 92 xtra cab!

[KDC]

Nice dude!  The chutes is where a bolt broke off the bell-housing and lodged itself in the flywheel on the '79.  At the time there were a number of spur trails on Kelley Flats that were open to wheeling.  Did you try any of those?

[yotakid707]

looks sick man need some more wheeling pics

[Phazertwo]

Nice dude!  The chutes is where a bolt broke off the bell-housing and lodged itself in the flywheel on the '79.  At the time there were a number of spur trails on Kelley Flats that were open to wheeling.  Did you try any of those?

I never heard that story. Thats cool. There were several that shot off to the side, but none looked challenging in the least, and after the chutes, we were ready to get out of there.
PZ

[Phazertwo]

looks sick man need some more wheeling pics

More of those to come this week. Had a good weekend down at old chinamens gultch!
PZ

[Volcom]

Truck's looking good!!!  Nice beadlocks 

[Phazertwo]

Some friends and I ran old chinaman gulch this weekend.
Start of the trail




Squeeze


Rock Garden




Whale rock



Stairs




Tons oh fun. It went eveywhere I wanted it to, I and I don't think I had to high lift or anything on this trip!   Only bummer is, I bent my rear drive shaft. Not enough to keep me from driving home at the speed limit!
PZ

[46&2]

Some friends and I ran old chinaman gulch this weekend.

That is a sweet picture. Looks like a lot of fun!

[Volcom]

That is a sweet picture. Looks like a lot of fun!

I was going to say the same thing, nice picture!!!  Looks like the Toyota went over most of the tough lines at Chinamans!  Impressive for just a rear locker!

How does the truck drive with the beadlocks down the road? 

[Phazertwo]

I was going to say the same thing, nice picture!!!  Looks like the Toyota went over most of the tough lines at Chinamans!  Impressive for just a rear locker!

How does the truck drive with the beadlocks down the road? 

yeah the only thing that stopped me on a line i tried was my DS being to low...

Very good for the most part.  However I only put 1000 .25g air soft pellets in each tire. I need to be like big mike and go for another 250. Also I need to spin my drives front on the rim, its the worst.

At first I didn't think the bead locks were worth it, but now that I see what I can do w/o a front locker at ~5psi, I am VERY happy with them.  Only one leaks. it takes it a week to drain it from 25psi down to 5. I only drive it one the weekends, so not a big deal to me.

PZ

P.S. you coming?
http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=125696

[toyotanner]

sooo.... UPDATES?

[Phazertwo]

Not really.  Been trying to get into more shooting lately, so less working on the truck.  Also they closed my favorite local trail. They are suppose to open a new one soon, but I went and looked at it last weekend, and its pretty much a pro rock-buggy corse. My truck would have no hope!

I did make my own front leafs, which I need to take apart and rebuild again since they have settled negative.

Ever since I did my SAS I have had death wobble problems. Most could be tracked to improper tire pressure coupled with lose shackle bolts. I have done the tabs to keep the bolt from spinning, but it doesn't seem to help at all!  Next step 3-LINK With air shocks.

PZ

[twistedtoy92]

get er done!

[toyotanner]

  GO FOR IT!

[94MtnYote]

 3 link would be titties!!
whats with the mysterious death wobble, is there no way to isolate the problem?
I wanna sas but stories like this make me wonder since it's my DD.

[46&2]

Not really.  Been trying to get into more shooting lately, so less working on the truck.  Also they closed my favorite local trail. They are suppose to open a new one soon, but I went and looked at it last weekend, and its pretty much a pro rock-buggy corse. My truck would have no hope!

I did make my own front leafs, which I need to take apart and rebuild again since they have settled negative.

Ever since I did my SAS I have had death wobble problems. Most could be tracked to improper tire pressure coupled with lose shackle bolts. I have done the tabs to keep the bolt from spinning, but it doesn't seem to help at all!  Next step 3-LINK With air shocks.

PZ

Have you checked your alignment? My toe was way off and I got horrible death wobble from about 30-40 mph

[punchyyoter85]

i realy like this build! updates! 

[LilChief87]

nice friggin truck bro sweet job

[Phazertwo]

First things first is the death wobble.  I have seen many trucks that run fine with the SAS, but I have NEVER met someone that doesn't have to tighten their shackles every oil change. 

That said, mine is worse than most.  For some reason when my springs are bolted into the front spring hanger (this is the front suspension we are talking about here) they are about 3 inches off in the back. Meaning that when they are put into the shackles they are pushing towards the center of the truck.  I am not sure if this is common or not, but I have a feeling that it has something to do with my DW. Also, for some reason if I lock my hubs, the thing drives like its on glass.

As for my alignment, I think its alright, because my tires wear very well.

All and all I think I am ready to move beyond a Leaf sprung suspension.  I don't like that the axle more forward away from the truck when the springs are down, and I don't like that the front axle moves back into my fire wall when its at full compression.  I know I could put my shackles on the other side of the springs, but I am ready for more axle control that a 3-link can provide.  Not to mention the adjustability that it can give me, and I am just plan sick of over extending my drive shaft and pulling it apart because these springs move an insane amount!

I need to rebuild my front springs for now to get to moab at the end of march.  I also want to gear my t-case lower before than too. Won't have the money for the duals, but a single 4.7 case will go along way compared to the stock v-6 case (2.62 i think).

I also have problems with my bead locks sealing (I rushed the welding of them, and am paying the price now).  I have a set of black wheels to replace them for now, so that I can get them welded up properly.

I have also done allot of work on my compressor set up.  I need to get some pics of what I have done, even tho its not working so well.  I will shoot for updates before the weekend!

I had no idea so many people were interested in this build, I will have to put some more time into posting what I do.

PZ

[Jordan7118]

I also want to gear my t-case lower before than too. Won't have the money for the duals, but a single 4.7 case will go along way compared to the stock v-6 case (2.62 i think).

Just to make sure, you know that the 4.7 gears are for a 4cyl case, so if you have a V-6 case, you'll need to buy an adapter, a 4 cyl case, and the 4.7 gears. BUT, I figure you were already aware of that.

[Phazertwo]

Just to make sure, you know that the 4.7 gears are for a 4cyl case, so if you have a V-6 case, you'll need to buy an adapter, a 4 cyl case, and the 4.7 gears. BUT, I figure you were already aware of that.

I am aware. I have a 4 banger top shift case, and a adaptor.

[Phazertwo]

I forgot to mention that with the super soft rears up front, I have a crazy amount of axle wrap when i brake, and when I am in low range with the front tires pinned.  I am considering a anti-wrap bar for the front axle, but due to the steering its making it kinda hard.  Has anyone else done this before? Anyone see any pictures?

Bought another gear driven case today, maybe I will get duals sooner than I thought!

[Jordan7118]

I've seen one. Guy said it made all the difference in the world. He ran it on the driver side back to under the driver's feet area with a shackle setup. Can't remember where I saw it. I think I saw it on Pirate. Sorry I can't be more helpful 

[Phazertwo]

Well, for a anti-wrap bar to work properly, it needs to run from the fixed side of the springs to the axle (not the shackle side), because the axle moves in a radius the same as the length of the front half of the spring.   It also needs to have the frame side bolt mounted in the same axis as the spring bolts (if that makes sense?)  I took my truck to work and played with it and the fork lift for a while.  I will have to put the anti wrap bar on the passenger side, so that it can clear the steering (the tie rod to axle distance changes too much on the drivers side). Also, I will have to bend it so that half of the axle side goes about the steering linkages and the other goes under, and give it all enough room so that the steering does not hit the AWB anywhere.  I am putting allot of thought into this, so that it does not limit my flex AT ALL, and so that it eliminates ALL axle wrap, so that my brakes work like they did with IFS.

I got all of my mounts (just rubber bushings in tubes, and mounting tabs) today, so I will try to get going on it this weekend.

However my compressor project has also come back to life (tired of waiting for air from buddys) and that is taking a fair share of my free time. Should have a running compressor tomorrow, maybe have it plumed and wired in time for Moab!  I will get pics tomorrow while I am working on it.

PZ

[Jordan7118]

Well, for a anti-wrap bar to work properly, it needs to run from the fixed side of the springs to the axle (not the shackle side)

I disagree.

Maybe in theory that's the only way it will work, but I've seen trac bars in the front go from the axle to the shackle side. The main difference in an anti-wrap bar and a leaf spring is that the AWB has no give up and down, i.e. tube. Instead, it can slide in and out or pivot on a shackle. This is what keeps the springs from turning into a sweet "S".

But, to each his own 

[Jordan7118]

Thought I'd do some research to back up what I think.

I found the picture I was thinking of - http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9436352&postcount=13

Here's the thread that is from - http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=761748&highlight=antiwrap

And here is a thread of just traction bars - http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464319

So, there's a little more food for thought. If I were you, I'd just hurry up with linkin' it : >)

[Phazertwo]

I like the threads, however I didn't have time to do much besides skim.  After skimming I didn't really see anything saying why what they did was better, other than this is what I did, and this is the length/size/material. I will have to read it more when I have more time.

Also, I will try to get i diagram of of what I was talking about.

Something to keep in mind is that I am looking for the perfect AWB, one that does not effect my flex at all.

PZ

[Volcom]

Don't forget about this year's CO4RJ  Tell your buddy KDC about it too!
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=54392.0

[Phazertwo]

Dig it!




Marlin MC-07 R-10! With some total spline 4.7:1 gears.

I had to go with the TG twin stick because marlin was out of stock  .  Quality product, but I just don't like TG.

I also got the marlin 2,100lb super duty clutch.  Can't wait to get that these bad boys installed! However I just bought a house (closing late this week or early next week) that was a foreclosure.  Needless to say I am going to have to take some time off from the truck, and other hobbies, to get the house ready to go!  However, after that, its game on with the truck.


I may try to get the the run down by BV since I didn't make Moab.  We will see!

PZ

[Volcom]

Best 2 mods you can do to your Toyota (besides lockers F&R).    Congrats on the house purchase also!  I've been down that road twice, I hope not to do that again for 2-30 years 

[Phazertwo]

Congrats on the house purchase also!  I've been down that road twice, I hope not to do that again for 2-30 years 

I hear you there! We hope to make some money off of this one so in 2-5 years we can expand a little!
PZ