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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #270 on: Mar 09, 2015, 06:08:56 PM »
Drove the truck first 100 miles. Also got the exhuast fixed. Runs awesome!
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #271 on: Mar 09, 2015, 07:06:53 PM »
very nice Zippo!  Congrats!

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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #272 on: Mar 10, 2015, 09:40:27 AM »
So im guessing your going to make moab this year SWEET
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #273 on: Mar 10, 2015, 11:39:09 AM »
Moab is still in question. But I think MCR is a lock.
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #275 on: Mar 12, 2015, 09:58:38 PM »
Sounds good!!!
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #276 on: Mar 12, 2015, 10:04:11 PM »
Time for a sr5 cluster!

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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #278 on: Mar 12, 2015, 10:17:40 PM »
I have an autometer tach already! as well as an oil gauge and AFR gauge. So I wouldn't gain anything from the swap!
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #279 on: Mar 16, 2015, 10:21:45 PM »
Truck is running awesome!!! Just for good measure did a compression test, they are all at 170 PSI. can't ask for better.



So I sneezed real hard, while driving and this came out. Any guesses?



Well? Still not sure? FJ62 front axle! Scored it from helipilot77. PS putting this thing in the back of a 4runner, by hand with only two people....sucks.







This is a 9.5" gear. Its HUGE!







Why are they always covered in so much greese!







So the FJ62 has a few challanges. One is the top spring pad isn't a spring pad and will have to be cut off and rewelded. The spring perches are 29 3/4" wide vs 29" on a mini. Moving the pads might be interesting, but doable.

The FJ62 is also 58" wide, so no need for a wheel spacer!
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #280 on: Mar 16, 2015, 10:40:00 PM »
 :thumbs:

i knew this was coming,get to work!
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #281 on: Mar 16, 2015, 10:49:49 PM »
Looks good! I like that you found and are using an fj60 axle. Not many people use them when they are a good choice sadly they are not easy to find.
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #282 on: Mar 17, 2015, 07:54:47 AM »
IIRC the 62 axle was slightly wider than the 60 axle.  Most of the ones I've seen for sale, they want $$$$ for.  So, it's always been cheaper to go with Hilux axle.
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #283 on: Mar 17, 2015, 09:58:17 AM »
IIRC the 62 axle was slightly wider than the 60 axle.  Most of the ones I've seen for sale, they want $$$$ for.  So, it's always been cheaper to go with Hilux axle.
The 60 had drum brakes, the 62 has disc brakes. Both are 58.5 WMS with 9.5 diff.
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #284 on: Mar 17, 2015, 10:11:47 AM »
The 9.5 diff is crazy big! Once i got it out and looked at it more. Its even bigger.
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #285 on: Mar 18, 2015, 04:40:55 AM »
Nice score on that 9.5... Your rig sounds killer :beerchug:
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #286 on: Mar 18, 2015, 07:17:38 AM »
I built the same axle for my 4Runner. For the perches I simply cut the top of the existing perch to the angle I wanted and welded a piece of steel to the top to match the needed spring width. I did slightly cut into the housing on the passenger side to get the correct spacing. Overall was very easy to do. Never bolted it in since I will be 3 linking the front instead of leaf springs.

Another option to consider is running IFS hubs to get a little more width and then you can run drop off rotors from a Tacoma or upgrade to Tundra brakes if your rims will allow it.

Also, FJ60 and 62 front axles both had disk brakes and are the same width.
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #287 on: Mar 18, 2015, 12:21:25 PM »
Yeah. Im learning a lot about these axles and they are more different then they look. I found this.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/LCFTSOA.html



This will help. But when doing to SOA you also need to rotate the knuckleballs to get the caster and pinion angle right. I am thinking about having wild west off road doing it, as I don't have the proper tools to set all the anlges and what not.

Other then that I have order a Marlin gusset kit and a few other odd parts. The 9.5 is getting a Spartan. I just don't have the cash for a selectable right now. RCV axles and I already have a Marlin high steer, and a few OEM axle rebuild kits.
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #288 on: Mar 18, 2015, 05:17:54 PM »
I just ordered the ruff stuff ideal Chevy 63 kit, perches, and shock mounts. They are offering 15% off right now and they are very cool people to deal with. I've heard nothing other than there stuff is pure beef! 
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #289 on: Mar 18, 2015, 05:20:48 PM »
Just ordered it. Saved 19 bucks! Yeah I checked around everything I have read says beef. I'm getting excited!
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #290 on: Mar 30, 2015, 06:54:49 PM »
Got the axle stripped of all the brackets. I started throwing dollar bills at it but my neighbors started looking at me funny.





Played with the SOA stuff. They look nice.









Ordered some parts. Yes I know some of them are TG. I feel ashamed.





Got a 23 spine coupler for when 4.7's get back in stock.



Ball gussets.

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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #291 on: Mar 31, 2015, 01:18:16 AM »
All you need is one of these
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #292 on: Mar 31, 2015, 06:37:51 PM »
I wish I could get some digital angle finders! I have crappy ones.

Made some progress. I cut and ground the new perches making it a keyed system. I think it will make welding it easier and stronger and made the two perches the same height. I think Jerry92toy is going to weld them for me. The perches are 10 5/16 from the outside edge of the bearing race to the center pin. 5-6* positive caster. 6-7* up diff angle. 29" pin to pin. Should be great!







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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #293 on: Mar 31, 2015, 07:14:25 PM »
I wish I could get some digital angle finders! I have crappy ones.


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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #294 on: Apr 04, 2015, 10:01:48 PM »
So truck hit 1500 miles today. Still running great!

Drove down to Vancouver WA and hung out with Jerry92toy who did some welding for me. Its a rather long drive, and my pitty came along.



Got the FJ62 axle all welded up. Everything is within .1-.3 degrees and under 1/16 of an inch. He does lay some nice welds. I welded a little and next to his, they look....















Have a little grinding to do, but not much, then its cleaning, painting and waiting for parts.
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #295 on: Apr 05, 2015, 09:08:05 AM »
Bad ass!

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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #296 on: Apr 05, 2015, 01:37:56 PM »
Looks good!
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #297 on: Apr 07, 2015, 10:02:56 AM »
Loks great zippo! Its nice to see something different
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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #298 on: Apr 07, 2015, 01:36:25 PM »
Looks good! Glad to see others seeing the potential of the fj60/62 axle. I have parts to build one here shortly for my next family crawler. Can't wait to hear how the spartan works for you in the 9.5" I have one as well as a Detroit for my build.

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Re: Willy Wonka: The Umpa lumpas are revolting!
« Reply #299 on: Apr 07, 2015, 05:07:06 PM »
Bad ass buddy!
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