The Turtcel build (turtle+tercel)

Started by helipilot77, May 21, 2016, 07:52:22 AM

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helipilot77

I've been wanting to get a Toyota 4wd car for several years now. I had been wanting a Camry all-trac but after looking for a clean example that wasn't rediculously priced for many months I came across this Tercel. I had had one several years ago and always regretted getting rid of it. They are fun to drive because they are so lightweight (2300 lbs.) I will be using this as a daily driver in the winter months and when I am building on my 4Runner. The plan is go through all the systems and upgrade/repair where it makes sense to me. Eventually I plan to install a 4A-ge 20 valve blacktop motor in it, Which should increase the power from 63 up to 160.

The car is being worked on at Zippo place so far. So far we have pulled the transmission, cleaned all the grease of it, put a new clutch in it and replaced the front axles.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-t turbo diesel with mech. pump
& custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100547.0
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/i

Rockcrawlintoy

Resident Jeep Guy
2007 JKU All Stock
ECV 7-11

jimbo74

:usa:

The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

~ John F. Kennedy ~

zippo

Quote from: RockcrawlinJK on May 21, 2016, 09:26:54 AM
What happened got the tail lights?

He knows what happen to it. He is being funny.
If you see it, its for sale.

Rockcrawlintoy

Quote from: zippo on May 21, 2016, 12:14:06 PM
He knows what happen to it. He is being funny.

:gap: I really like this car. My friend had one that he raced and it was awesome
Resident Jeep Guy
2007 JKU All Stock
ECV 7-11

LittleSteve

LittleSteve: Holding up traffic and giving dubious advice since 2014.

1/5th of Perfect Fit. The awkward foreigner no one understands.

Refusing to fit in or comply.

Easy is not worth anything.

Show me a home where the UZ's roam.

zippo

3rz swap was my idea.You would have to get a different trans/tcase but would be AWESOME!
If you see it, its for sale.

LittleSteve

Quote from: zippo on May 21, 2016, 01:59:38 PM
3rz swap was my idea.You would have to get a different trans/tcase but would be AWESOME!
Porsche Cayman has longitudinal mid engine Getrag transmission, would work awesome.
LittleSteve: Holding up traffic and giving dubious advice since 2014.

1/5th of Perfect Fit. The awkward foreigner no one understands.

Refusing to fit in or comply.

Easy is not worth anything.

Show me a home where the UZ's roam.

helipilot77

#8
Quote from: RockcrawlinJK on May 21, 2016, 09:26:54 AM
What happened got the tail lights?

You know what happened.  :shake:

While pulling the car into Zippos garage. The strap broke and the car careened down his driveway and crashed into the neighbors hedge. Also the door was open, and when it crashed through the hedge the door and subsequently the fender got taken out.

A new fender and door have already been installed and the factory paint has been ordered.

The shifter was so sloppy that I could hardly find a gear to go into, so I order a shifter seat and bushing along with a new boot from Marlin.

I got a factory service manual on eBay as well as an original owners manual.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-t turbo diesel with mech. pump
& custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100547.0
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/i

jimbo74

looks like a 4runner......

are you going to lift it?
:usa:

The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

~ John F. Kennedy ~

jimbo74

Quote from: LittleSteve on May 21, 2016, 02:03:52 PM
Porsche Cayman has longitudinal mid engine Getrag transmission, would work awesome.

I think that transmission would easily be more expensive than several times this car's worth.....
:usa:

The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

~ John F. Kennedy ~

zippo

The transmission is a pain in the ass you put in and out.
If you see it, its for sale.

LittleSteve

Quote from: jimbo74 on May 21, 2016, 03:06:56 PM
I think that transmission would easily be more expensive than several times this car's worth.....
I did rear coil springs on one today, could have stole it. Stoopid squashed Beetle
Its not about what is worth what, its about makin it go like snot off a stick

Edit:
Checked Ebay £750 six speed getrag to suit Cayman/Tercel
LittleSteve: Holding up traffic and giving dubious advice since 2014.

1/5th of Perfect Fit. The awkward foreigner no one understands.

Refusing to fit in or comply.

Easy is not worth anything.

Show me a home where the UZ's roam.

HogCanyonHopper

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=88478.0
Where are we going? And why are we in a handbasket?

My friend is goin to moan this weekend - RockcrawlinJK

helipilot77

Pretty sold on the 4A-ge 20 valve. It will make this light little car go like a stabbed rat.  :burnout:

It's also one of the few engines that can produce 100hp per litter in stock trim. 
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-t turbo diesel with mech. pump
& custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100547.0
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/i

emsvitil

Ed
SoCal
86 SR5 XtraCab
22RE  W56B
31x10.50R15

jimbo74

:usa:

The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission.

~ John F. Kennedy ~

helipilot77

Quote from: emsvitil on May 21, 2016, 07:48:41 PM
Add a turbo...

I don't think the tercel transmission could handle much more power than 160. I also want to keep it naturally aspirated.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-t turbo diesel with mech. pump
& custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100547.0
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/i

H8PVMNT

Wonder if you could get emu springs for it?
"I would rather wake up in the middle of nowhere than in any city on earth."
– Steve McQueen

"Except for maybe Seattle."  -H8PVMNT

"I plan to hit 300k in this truck"  :)bestgen4runner

"I'm jealous of your shop. It has concrete and doesn't smell like pickles like the old shop  "  300K

Cheesemaker

Go to Napa, and they can mix the oem paint in spray cans now!  Just need the vin.


I love the Tercel Wagons!  A buddy of mine always has 2 or 3 at any given time.  Plus 30 mpg all day long helps!
Miss ya Dean (4THEWKN) & Kyle (KYOTA)!!

4THEWKN~9/17/2006  If it wasn't for you, I'd be driving something other than a Toyota!

My build up ~ project Kilchis! http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=32961.0
Zak's truck build ~ http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=64319.0;topicseen

megaphoneman

i cant see pics at work so i am sucribing to this thread!

helipilot77

Quote from: Cheesemaker on May 23, 2016, 07:33:49 AM
Go to Napa, and they can mix the oem paint in spray cans now!  Just need the vin.


I love the Tercel Wagons!  A buddy of mine always has 2 or 3 at any given time.  Plus 30 mpg all day long helps!

Darn! I didn't know that. I ordered mine so now I have to wait for them to mix the paint and ship it.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-t turbo diesel with mech. pump
& custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100547.0
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/i

Prismo

If you end up needing random parts I may have it so let me know
Retired Great White Turtle Hunter
Originally posted by fortysixandtwo – sheesh, you should see the transvestites i sell ammo to sometimes

Rockcrawlintoy

Quote from: Cheesemaker on May 23, 2016, 07:33:49 AM
Go to Napa, and they can mix the oem paint in spray cans now!  Just need the vin.


I love the Tercel Wagons!  A buddy of mine always has 2 or 3 at any given time.  Plus 30 mpg all day long helps!

This is good to know. I need to get a color match for my sliders.
Resident Jeep Guy
2007 JKU All Stock
ECV 7-11

zippo

Quote from: RockcrawlinJK on May 23, 2016, 03:44:25 PM
This is good to know. I need to get a color match for my sliders.

They don't have jeep paint :-p
If you see it, its for sale.

Rockcrawlintoy

Resident Jeep Guy
2007 JKU All Stock
ECV 7-11

helipilot77

#26
Quote from: Prismo on May 23, 2016, 03:42:46 PM
If you end up needing random parts I may have it so let me know

Have a gray rear parcel tray or air conditioning parts?
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-t turbo diesel with mech. pump
& custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew https://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=100547.0
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/i

LittleSteve

LittleSteve: Holding up traffic and giving dubious advice since 2014.

1/5th of Perfect Fit. The awkward foreigner no one understands.

Refusing to fit in or comply.

Easy is not worth anything.

Show me a home where the UZ's roam.

chim

I'm excited to see a Tercel build! (Never thought I would say that :)

Dingman.