Author Topic: Blackdiamond (Gup-C build-up) (Read 230748 times)

rednk1980 · « **Reply #300 on:** Apr 07, 2007, 11:20:56 PM »

Hey bd are you going to take the runner to the funny rocks any time soon (after it is finished)? I really want to get a good look at this thing close up, Im headed up Memorial day weekend maybe then?

blackdiamond · « **Reply #301 on:** Apr 07, 2007, 11:26:54 PM »

Quote from: rednk1980 on Apr 07, 2007, 11:20:56 PM

Hey bd are you going to take the runner to the funny rocks any time soon (after it is finished)? I really want to get a good look at this thing close up, Im headed up Memorial day weekend maybe then?

I have no plans as of yet to go anywhere. I gotta get it first and then I can start breaking things in and working on tuning my skills offroad with the new rig.

Duffil · « **Reply #302 on:** Apr 08, 2007, 12:35:54 AM »

Lots of 22Rs leak at the front main seal. Get a manual gauge and screw it in, just to be sure it is/is not pumping. If it's leaking there, I would think that it is. Was there a groove in the balancer or did you notice?

BTW--that thing looks

gotrocks · « **Reply #303 on:** Apr 08, 2007, 09:18:30 AM »

Quote from: Duffil on Apr 08, 2007, 12:35:54 AM

Lots of 22Rs leak at the front main seal. Get a manual gauge and screw it in, just to be sure it is/is not pumping. If it's leaking there, I would think that it is. Was there a groove in the balancer or did you notice?

BTW--that thing looks

I'm assuming when you mean groove your referring to the keyway slot. Yes its there and the key is in. I am going to get a manual pressure gauge and screw it in. I should be working on the engine tomorrow. Today I have some other obligations lowering a Jetta so I should know shortly what on earth is going on.

gotrocks · « **Reply #304 on:** Apr 08, 2007, 09:19:26 AM »

Quote from: blackdiamond on Apr 07, 2007, 11:17:42 PM

Looking excellent!

Other than the leaking, what tipped you off to the low oil pressure?

the oil light came on

Johnny5 · « **Reply #305 on:** Apr 08, 2007, 09:31:08 AM »

i think he is referring to a groove wore into the harmonic balancer. the part of it where it slids through the seal. they can wear there and leak out the front main seal.

Duffil · « **Reply #306 on:** Apr 08, 2007, 09:47:44 AM »

Quote from: gotrocks on Apr 08, 2007, 09:18:30 AM

I'm assuming when you mean groove your referring to the keyway slot. Yes its there and the key is in. I am going to get a manual pressure gauge and screw it in. I should be working on the engine tomorrow. Today I have some other obligations lowering a Jetta so I should know shortly what on earth is going on.

No, sorry if I wasn't clear

I do mean the one that gets worn into the balancer.

takes the seal, and grinds the rubber off the backside to relocate the lip and stop the leaking

blackdiamond · « **Reply #307 on:** Apr 08, 2007, 10:33:42 AM »

Quote from: gotrocks on Apr 08, 2007, 09:18:30 AM

Today I have some other obligations lowering a Jetta so I should know shortly what on earth is going on.

From the "Save the Jetta" foundation...

I recommend this lowering kit: http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=11

854RUN · « **Reply #308 on:** Apr 09, 2007, 08:05:24 AM »

Quote from: blackdiamond on Apr 08, 2007, 10:33:42 AM

From the "Save the Jetta" foundation...

I recommend this lowering kit: http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=11

gotrocks · « **Reply #309 on:** Apr 09, 2007, 08:41:50 AM »

thanks

no the kit I installed was a H&R complete strutt and coil kit. It looks really good and it only took 2 hours to install.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #310 on:** Apr 09, 2007, 12:20:05 PM »

It sounds like the oil pressure "idiot light" could be from air in the line. Maybe the leak is a seperate issue and will stop.

just some ideas

gotrocks · « **Reply #311 on:** Apr 09, 2007, 06:35:46 PM »

Quote from: blackdiamond on Apr 09, 2007, 12:20:05 PM

It sounds like the oil pressure "idiot light" could be from air in the line. Maybe the leak is a seperate issue and will stop.

just some ideas

maybe but after running the motor for 10 minutes all of the oil should be circulated through the engine

blackdiamond · « **Reply #312 on:** Apr 09, 2007, 07:05:37 PM »

Quote from: gotrocks on Apr 09, 2007, 06:35:46 PM

maybe but after running the motor for 10 minutes all of the oil should be circulated through the engine

A couple of my coworkers made it sound like you can actually bleed the gage line? Maybe it is different on other motors.

Duffil · « **Reply #313 on:** Apr 09, 2007, 09:16:09 PM »

Quote from: blackdiamond on Apr 09, 2007, 07:05:37 PM

A couple of my coworkers made it sound like you can actually bleed the gage line? Maybe it is different on other motors.

there is no need to...I've had a manual gauge hooked up with bubbles all through it and it read fine. Remember, air is a fluid. Also, even though you can compress air, in a tube with liquid next to it, the pressure is passed on to the liquid(oil). There is not enough volume to account for air pressure losses in an oil pressure line, anyhow.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #314 on:** Apr 09, 2007, 09:41:11 PM »

Quote from: Duffil on Apr 09, 2007, 09:16:09 PM

there is no need to...I've had a manual gauge hooked up with bubbles all through it and it read fine. Remember, air is a fluid. Also, even though you can compress air, in a tube with liquid next to it, the pressure is passed on to the liquid(oil). There is not enough volume to account for air pressure losses in an oil pressure line, anyhow.

Is that why air in brake lines doesn't matter?

mudaddict · « **Reply #315 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 09:41:58 AM »

that runner is looking mighty fine if i do say so my self!! nice job gotrocks!

gotrocks · « **Reply #316 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 09:46:31 AM »

Thanks. Right now I'm not worried about the looks. Gotta get this thing running perfect.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #317 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 10:45:26 AM »

Quote from: gotrocks on Apr 10, 2007, 09:46:31 AM

Thanks. Right now I'm not worried about the looks. Gotta get this thing running perfect.

Any ideas yet? Is the new oil pump just bad?

No pressure from me on this one.

synwars · « **Reply #318 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 02:31:31 PM »

Quote from: blackdiamond on Apr 10, 2007, 10:45:26 AM

Any ideas yet? Is the new oil pump just bad?

No pressure from me on this one.

Nice pun.

Better check the sending unit... make sure its got good contacts, and check the resistance on it...

blackdiamond · « **Reply #319 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 03:14:42 PM »

Quote from: synwars on Apr 10, 2007, 02:31:31 PM

Nice pun.

Better check the sending unit... make sure its got good contacts, and check the resistance on it...

I noticed that after it was too late.

Cheesemaker · « **Reply #320 on:** Apr 11, 2007, 12:41:57 PM »

I like how the engine hoist is flexing too!

blackdiamond · « **Reply #321 on:** Apr 11, 2007, 08:30:28 PM »

gotrocks · « **Reply #322 on:** Apr 12, 2007, 10:37:17 AM »

check your pm bd

blackdiamond · « **Reply #323 on:** Apr 17, 2007, 12:08:19 PM »

A new delivery date has been agreed on. The bdrunner should be crossing the state on Friday afternoon. Gotrocks is certain the the oil pressure and leak problems have been identified and are easily corrected. I'll let him explain if he wants, I'll just make myself look stupid if I try to put it into words.

The bdrunner should be complete with the exception of the twin stick which will be installed in the near future. I'm working with Marlin Crawler on the details of that transaction.

Once again,

is treating the customer right!

blackdiamond · « **Reply #324 on:** Apr 18, 2007, 12:20:18 PM »

blackdiamond · « **Reply #325 on:** Apr 19, 2007, 07:05:23 AM »

toy4x4ota · « **Reply #326 on:** Apr 19, 2007, 07:59:14 AM »

im not sure if you have fixed your oil pressure problem or not, but when i did my front main and put everything back together i wasnt getting pressure either. i rechecked the o-ring style gasket and it was messed up. if that o-ring gasket isnt just right you wont get any pressure at all, maybe you should check that.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #327 on:** Apr 19, 2007, 08:33:05 AM »

Quote from: toy4x4ota on Apr 19, 2007, 07:59:14 AM

im not sure if you have fixed your oil pressure problem or not, but when i did my front main and put everything back together i wasnt getting pressure either. i rechecked the o-ring style gasket and it was messed up. if that o-ring gasket isnt just right you wont get any pressure at all, maybe you should check that.

I think the o-ring was a problem. Gotrocks thought they had the problem identified, but I have not heard if the repair was successful.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #328 on:** Apr 19, 2007, 06:05:55 PM »

from gotrocks and the engine is running great!

It seems that the only oops that has been identified so from the project is that during the dual case assembly the shift fork pin was reinstalled so in order to run the twin stick, once I get the correct application, the cases will have to come back out. I never really found the increadible benefit of the twin stick so I'll have to evaluate if it's worth pulling the cases again. I'm sure if I wait a while, an "opportunity" will present itself and give me another reason to pull the cases.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #329 on:** Apr 19, 2007, 08:07:46 PM »

We have worked out the details for the delivery process, all I will say as it will be a surprise to some. The event will be well documented.

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