Topic: Kiyul4130s rig

[89sastoyo]

hey what gears are you running in your axles??? And how many outputs did you break before the longfield output? and how often. Thats shitty about the front output my buddy has broken his like 4 times now it just explodes the whole front of the case off housing and evetyhin..

He found his problem was to much droop and the driveline would bind and he'd dump the clutch and itd royallt flopp up

[kiyul4130 [OP]]

i got 4.10 gears, thats why. i broke the output 1 time and decided that was enough to ruin a weekend at the once a year marlin round-up 2 years ago. i didnt want that happening again so i replaced it before my truck ever hit the trail ever again.




going to start working again very soon so i should have some progress in the next month.

[89sastoyo]

i got 4.10 gears, thats why. i broke the output 1 time and decided that was enough to ruin a weekend at the once a year marlin round-up 2 years ago. i didnt want that happening again so i replaced it before my truck ever hit the trail ever again.

I see so do you think 4.56s are any better or should I just re-gear them to 5.38s??

And very nice three link? Or just fix the t case and get it up and running again?



going to start working again very soon so i should have some progress in the next month.

[kiyul4130 [OP]]

im probably going to skip the 3 link right now. i have most of my parts for it anyways. all i need is some brackets and a couple more joints. i dont have anywhere to do that kind of work to it right now anyways. i think most importantly i need to gear these axles. im going to buy some 5.38s and hopefully an ARB for the rear.

[Yota4life]

you gonna street drive this again? Is that the reason for the arb in the rear

[kiyul4130 [OP]]

you gonna street drive this again? Is that the reason for the arb in the rear

possibly yes. id step down to a streetable 40" tire. the new MTR would be cool. the old MTR would be cool too.

[89sastoyo]

for sure that would be gangster drivin it on the road. My buddy just got some 40" mtrs for his and they are super legit street tires its a turd but we were mobbin like 60 and they drive super nice, and there almost as tall as my buddies 42" iroks.

[kiyul4130 [OP]]

anyone know someone with some 40" MTRs?

[Jud]

for sure that would be gangster drivin it on the road. My buddy just got some 40" mtrs for his and they are super legit street tires its a turd but we were mobbin like 60 and they drive super nice, and there almost as tall as my buddies 42" iroks.

New Kevlars? Or the older radials?

[kiyul4130 [OP]]

New Kevlars? Or the older radials?

linkkk http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=68888.0

[Dingman.]

Anything new with this?

So why do the toy cases keep breaking in half like that, i have never seen that before.
Is it just the TC mount you are using or what?

[Slolyfe]

Anything new with this?

So why do the toy cases keep breaking in half like that, i have never seen that before.
Is it just the TC mount you are using or what?

Whats in your diffs?

[Dingman.]

Whats in your diffs?

5.29's.

But i don't have duals.

Im just wondering if the reason he keeps breaking housings is the TC mount he has, is it to stiff and doesn't have any movement so the housing snaps or what?

[-Matt-]

i dont think he was asking you mike, i think he means whats in kyles diffs.

[yota_krawler]

then why would he quote mikes post?

[Doof]

because maybe he thought it could relate to why the shits breaking, idk... but he's rockin 4.10s if your asking whats its kyles difs

[Doof]

Anything new with this?

So why do the toy cases keep breaking in half like that, i have never seen that before.
Is it just the TC mount you are using or what?

if i remember this right, was rocking solid motor mounts with poly bushings, so the torque was going to the fror cross member, twisting and breaking the cases... or its the reverse. there is a soild mount, and soft mount. torque came into play and the weak spot was the t-case... but now has a 1/2" thick custom t-case mount that should eliminate any movement. so now its dealing with the motor mounts and what do to there because he also kept snapping 3/8" chain??

all from memory from a while back reading on the pirate thread i think. anyways thats the jyst of it

[Dingman.]

Ah so does it basically come down to the design of that TC crossmember?  Is it because there is not enough give in the bushings so the housing breaks?

Or is it because there WAS play from the torque of everything?

[FAUX X 4]

Damn, this thread is the biggest train wreck in history! 64 pages of train wreck!

[Slolyfe]

because maybe he thought it could relate to why the :pokinit:s breaking, idk... but he's rockin 4.10s if your asking whats its kyles difs

Bingo! Wouldnt running 4.10s put alot more strain on the cases cause they are the only reducer for those big a$$ tires?

[Jud]

What is happening:


He first off has 4.10s in the axles, that is why he kept breaking outputs and whatnot.

Now his issue is having poly t-case mount bushings and stock rubber motor mounts. Old drag racers will tell you, Never do just one thing poly/solid. Reason being is all the stress will be at the more solid mount because the rubber is so soft and has so much more play it's almost like not having a mount there at all.

I was having the same problem but the opposite way. I have rockstomper poly motor mounts and stock t-case mounts. Beacuse of this all my stock motor mount welds kept cracking. I put the TG heavy duty poly t-case mount in my truck justrecently. I will know here pretty soon if that solved my problem or not.

[-Matt-]

so i hear rumors that you bought 60 birfs. pretty baller

[86bobbedtoy]

60?

[-Matt-]

ya http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-2873684-dana-60-cvs.html 2K of raw beef

[89sastoyo]

not to sound like a richard but if people read before hand every question on this page was answered in previous pages. He does have 60 birfs on page 63 his truck is there with them installed....


says he has 4.10s right up on page 64 from when I asked. Juds right, The 4.10s kill cases because there getting all of the stress because they are gearing everything down. Also with the motor mounts and t case mounts aswell.

Dingman.

I would say those cross members are not the best design but they will hold up. I have rallied on one I made thats not super beefy for a couple years recently notice it has a small crack starting so Im going to make it a little better this next go around. I would say though if you were wondering if you should get one you should check out 4xinvoations cross members there baller and you can raise your cases rock stock height what ever you please.

[-Matt-]

not to sound like a richard but if people read before hand every question on this page was answered in previous pages. He does have 60 birfs on page 63 his truck is there with them installed....

haha if you read page '62' you would have realized he was borrowing a pair from callen just for the KOH event. after he got back they went back to callen. but now that hes making money, i hear that he ordered a pair.

but i get what your sayin

[Jud]

haha if you read page '62' you would have realized he was borrowing a pair from callen just for the KOH event. after he got back they went back to callen. but now that hes making money, i hear that he ordered a pair.

but i get what sayin

He told me yesterday that he is going to order them soon...

[kiyul4130 [OP]]

everyone hit it right at some point or another. ill just say whats going on right now. i have 4.10s currently. my rear case is solid mounted, my motor mounts were chained solid and i ripped the chains right off the MM's and frame down at the hammers earlier this year. i need to make some custom solid MMs with poly bushings.

I have 5.38 gears for the front end.
I'll own my own set of Dana 60 birfields/drive flanges in a few days along with a spool next week.
I just need to order up some rear 5.38s.

I have zero time to work on this truck so linking the truck isnt happening now till i get laid off which is supposedly in december/january. I work 6 days a week and wrenching/cutting/welding metal on my only day off doesnt sound great when i do that anyways. I actually have my first day off tomorrow in 2 weeks. if i cut apart my truck now it will sit all summer and in the end probably screw me out of going to the round-up. diff gears and front axles is plenty enough of an upgrade to keep this truck on the trail 1 more season with leaf springs and hopefully very minimal - zero maintenance of the truck.

memorial day wheeling looks out the door. there is tons of snow everyone and my is staying right here in town nice and far away from moon rocks. its not built enough yet to actually go have fun over there the way i'd like to.

peace out, im going to the bar for once 

[kiyul4130 [OP]]

Damn, this thread is the biggest train wreck in history! 64 pages of train wreck!

meh, we've seen worse threads, no? 

[P-DiseToy24]

note to self.........

buy an atlas, 203/205, stak, lovell,

Anything but toyota case's they just arent strong enough these day's and if they are there's enough money in them to buy one of the above.