Topic: 1985 4runner: traded

[yota_krawler]

Finally got another yota.

-1985 4runner EFI 5 speed
-Motorworks of Elko Nv, rebuilt the engine (w/papers) 22k
-Suspension is Marlin 5 inch kit
-Bilstein shocks and hoops.
-High steer kit
-air conditioning works 
-set of 6 33x10.50-15 BFG m/t
-extended drivelines and stainless braided brake lines
-cd player

I paid $2800 and drove 4 hours for it. The outside needs help but the interior is CLEAN non sr5

The gmc did great towin it. I wasnt to sure how it would do. The slowest pass I made was 55mph. slight hill and flats I could stay at 75mph no problem. I need a new break controller cause mine was a being a pregnant dog and it would only work when it wanted to. Thats a high stresser lol. 


Plans, ditch the 33s and the wheels. Get 35s, 4.56, lock the front and wheel it.

Then comes duals, my old axle set up I had on the 94 extra cab (dana 44 and t100 w/elocker this time!), 37x12.50r17 kevlar, protection, and maybe a soft top. Thats pretty much it. Oh and Paint. I think they just painted it black without sanding or anything. It comes off in potato chip sized chips lol. Im thinking Real dark green almost black. With the brown interior would be cool.

[MRHilux87]

Nice runner.  Lots of potential. 

[yota_krawler [OP]]

This is my 2nd, 1st gen 4runner, and 4th build. the other 3 were different builds so I plan on using the knowlege and incorperating all 3 into this one.

for all you haters.... (you know who you are) I actually do plan on keeping this one.

[THK Matt]

Hell ya Cody!!!

for all you haters.... (you know who you are) I actually do plan on keeping this one.

Amen

[bigarms23]

nice find buddy

[yota_krawler [OP]]

thanks

I went today to get the safty and emissions done. Failed both. It has to high hydracarbons, Im thinking due to no cat. It failed safty cause the bottom of the tail light on the pass. side has red tape on it and the horn doesnt work. I checked the fuse and to see if it was even plugged in and both were good. So I am going to put a test light on the plug to see if it has power. Maybe the diaphram is bad idk.

[yota_krawler [OP]]

I hate the stock DLX Brown interior they used...

i dont ........ yes i do lol

[Dingman.]

(you know who you are) I actually do plan on keeping this one.

Bout time i seen this thread.  wheres the rest of the pics of the 4runner?

[yota_krawler [OP]]

I got 5 how many you want? I didnt have a chance to really do anything with it this weekend. Next weekend Im going to tare the carpet out, install some tihs, and clean it up. It needs 35s and to come down. 5 inch is wayyyyy too tall

[Dingman.]

I got 5 how many you want?

off road ones!

Honestly i did not see the other pictures, did not see the scroll bar. 

[yota_krawler [OP]]

you were more inpatient about me getting a build thread started then i was getting the 4runner

[Dingman.]

Well dood you told me you got a 4runner and gave me a little detail about it, and left me hanging.  and since you don't live 5minutes from my house anymore i couldn't just come over and check it out.  So yes i wanted a build thread so i could see pictures 

[yota_krawler [OP]]

Axle Options...

I am stoked on having a solid axle. But I want to build a set of axles on the side to swap in when ready like -Matt- did.

Option 1: Yota
So I could keep it toyota and build them up as I go like everyone else. I know toyota axles can be made strong. Its the stability I have a concern about. I cant see dumping money into a narrow 8" axle. IFS rear and spacers is not wide. The scrub radious with wheel spacers is stupid, I dont trust the knuckles, and why build an axle that you cant be hard on.

Option 2: Dana 44/T100
I could swap in the axles I had before in my 94. I loved the width, Dana 44s also can be made strong. But at what cost. I could run a 35" tire and be fine but I want a bigger tire. I had those axle on 37s but i would have pressed my luck for sure. T100 axles are sweet, but stupid hard to find.

Option 3: 609/FF 9"
This is the one I want to do. But it is fully custom and would be the most expensive. For those who dont know what a 609 is, its a hybrid 9" with dana 60 outers. By getting a 35 spline locker you can run 35 spline all the way out. It is a stamped steel housing so easy to weld on, drop out thirds, and the pinion support like a 14 bolt. To FF a rear 9" is actually kind of simple. FF, discs, and a drop out third. Gear options are limitless, its crazy. Have 3/8ths of an inch less ground clearence than a toyota both not shaved. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=747451&highlight=609

Option 4: Tons
I think tons are bad ass. Stong, nice and wide, abundent on the trail now, great after market support. But they are heavy, the unsprung weight is rediculous. I am running a 22re but would like to swap for a 3rz eventually. But even with a 3rz I dont see it having enough power to run one tons. One tons are meant to be with a v-8 and not toyota cases etc.

Tell me what you think. I want you to explain what your reason is. So post up guys.

[rcbro]

I don't know much about the axle configurations you choose, but do feel its strange you feel the D44 can only hold a 35" tire. If I was in your shoes I'd do option two and upgrade as needed.

The 44's can be found for relatively cheap. The more I think about it, after longs, high steer, lockers, armor, bearings and rebuilt kit I have enough money in my toys to have built a nice strong 44.

[bigarms23]

option 3 is my vote but since its the most expensive i would spend the money on 40spline shafts this is the current axle combo i have on the way

[yota_krawler [OP]]

I don't know much about the axle configurations you choose, but do feel its strange you feel the D44 can only hold a 35" tire. If I was in your shoes I'd do option two and upgrade as needed.

The 44's can be found for relatively cheap. The more I think about it, after longs, high steer, lockers, armor, bearings and rebuilt kit I have enough money in my toys to have built a nice strong 44.

Stock d44s are a little stronger than a stock toyota. 19 spline stub shafts are weak. I was refering to being locked in the front. Open and it could do a 38 max



Basically you have to put money into an axle at some point. Everyone does because they dont like breaking on the trail. So what option is the best to put money into?

[THK Matt]

why not go fj80 front or Fj60 front? with a custom centered FF FJ80 rear? run 9.5in diffs F/R.

[yota_krawler [OP]]

high steer issues, no pinion support, not linking in this phase of the build, hard to find like a t100

I want something with good after market support, strong, and will be the last axle I have to build.

[yota_krawler [OP]]

i see voters but no reasons as to why....

[bigarms23]

i chose the wway i did for weight clearence and i didnt know what tire you want to run but with 40splines i figured you wouldn't need to bring spares

[THK Matt]

dont have to link the fj80. a board member is leafing his and frenching the perches into the housing. looks sick.

[Dingman.]

I want something with good after market support, strong, and will be the last axle I have to build.

Then why arnt you focused on a 60 and a 14bolt.  Lol
Or instead of your idea of a 9" center/ 60outer.    Why not do 14bolt front with 60 outers if your gonna pay for custom housings anyways. 

As far as the unsprung weight goes i really think you need to drive someones wheeler with 1tons to see if its even going to be that big of a deal. I think you will be fine driving it with a 22re as long as you gear the axles

[yota_krawler [OP]]

im leaving in 2 hours to drive back to paradise ca form Utah. We are moving back.

And we are expecting

[THK Matt]

u takin the 4runner?

[Dingman.]

Yes he is.

[THK Matt]

Sweet

[Dingman.]

Hes back in town..



There goes the neighborhood. 

[89 runner]

FJZ80 front axle with a E-locker taco or runner rear axle with a ruff stuff full floater kit and now u have discs all around and use FJ80 master C thats what im doing on the 75 going to run 39's or 40's with longs in the front, mini truck SA hubs on front.

[THK Matt]

FJZ80 front axle with a E-locker taco or runner rear axle with a ruff stuff full floater kit and now u have discs all around and use FJ80 master C thats what im doing on the 75 going to run 39's or 40's with longs in the front, mini truck SA hubs on front.

thats the setup id like to end up with. only use a FJ Cruiser elocked Rear End. (comes with factory disks)

[John Doe]

That is basically my current set up. Except I am using a fj80 rear Full float axle with rear discs in a centered Diamond housing.