Author Topic: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread  (Read 322396 times)

0 Members and 89 Guests are viewing this topic.

SqWADoosh

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 10966
  • Male Posts: 2,417
  • Member since Oct '14
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1110 on: Apr 14, 2016, 06:42:10 PM »
Hope its not that trans you just took a chunk out of lol :gap:
where is the noise coming from?

Hard to tell. Sounds like its front axle area.

BigBluePile

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: -147
  • Male Posts: 229
  • Member since Feb '13
  • Conquering the toughest malls.
    • View Profile
    • YT
    • Buy me some coffee
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1111 on: Apr 14, 2016, 07:37:46 PM »
Dang man, if it's not one thing it's another lol

Sent from my 0PJA2 using Tapatalk

'86 4Runner SR5 TRD 5VZ-FE
...slightly modified from OEM...

SqWADoosh [OP]

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 10966
  • Male Posts: 2,417
  • Member since Oct '14
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1112 on: Apr 14, 2016, 07:42:36 PM »
Dang man, if it's not one thing it's another lol

Sent from my 0PJA2 using Tapatalk

Tell me about it.  :thumbdown:

Rockcrawlintoy

  • 4 doors for more whores
  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 2147
  • Male Posts: 2,339
  • Member since Dec '03
  • RIP Kyle
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a soda
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1113 on: Apr 14, 2016, 07:45:26 PM »
How old was that gear oil in the trans?
Resident Jeep Guy
2007 JKU All Stock
ECV 7-11

SqWADoosh [OP]

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 10966
  • Male Posts: 2,417
  • Member since Oct '14
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1114 on: Apr 14, 2016, 07:52:14 PM »
How old was that gear oil in the trans?

Put it in when I put the trans in last March. So a little over a year old.

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,058
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1115 on: Apr 14, 2016, 08:23:34 PM »
Put it in when I put the trans in last March. So a little over a year old.

What is the history of the transmission?

A coworker of mine thought the chunk looked like the end of a shift fork. Mostly a guess for sure.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

Rockcrawlintoy

  • 4 doors for more whores
  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 2147
  • Male Posts: 2,339
  • Member since Dec '03
  • RIP Kyle
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a soda
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1116 on: Apr 14, 2016, 08:25:50 PM »
Seems pretty dark for a year. Mike changed my old trans and he said it looks good still just super smelly after 15 years
Resident Jeep Guy
2007 JKU All Stock
ECV 7-11

emsvitil

  • Offline Silver Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 7571
  • Male Posts: 3,561
  • Member since May '07
    • View Profile
    • emsvitil's album
    • Buy me a soda
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1117 on: Apr 14, 2016, 08:29:21 PM »
Is the steering box quiet?
Ed
SoCal
86 SR5 XtraCab
22RE  W56B
31x10.50R15

jangelfire

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: -1
  • Posts: 334
  • Member since Jan '15
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1118 on: Apr 14, 2016, 08:32:36 PM »
Hard to tell. Sounds like its front axle area.
I'm always thinking I hear new noises after I work on my rig.its the perfectionist in us that makes these noises.run it like you stole it, if it breaks it needed fixed anyways.my 2cents

OTO Phil

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 1018
  • Male Posts: 682
  • Member since Jan '16
  • Owner of Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • View Profile
    • Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • Buy me a soda
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1119 on: Apr 14, 2016, 08:36:42 PM »
Try it in 4hi, then 4low... See if it sounds the same...
Offroad Toy Outfitters - The best place to find an experienced-based Toyota shop in the PNW and get hands-on with your next project!
2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

SqWADoosh [OP]

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 10966
  • Male Posts: 2,417
  • Member since Oct '14
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1120 on: Apr 15, 2016, 07:14:08 AM »
Seems pretty dark for a year. Mike changed my old trans and he said it looks good still just super smelly after 15 years

The color of the fluid is very likely due to the fact that I put in some cheap fluid for a week after first installing the trans. Reason I did this was it had been sitting for a while and the fluid inside of it was pretty gnarly. So I ran that cheap fluid for a week then put in MT-90. The color is likely due to this.

Is the steering box quiet?

Steering box seems to be doing great. Don't think it is that. Besides the noise happens when holding steady and straight and goes away with clutch in so I'm confident that it is not the box.

I'm always thinking I hear new noises after I work on my rig.its the perfectionist in us that makes these noises.run it like you stole it, if it breaks it needed fixed anyways.my 2cents

I'm definitely not hearing things. It is very prominent.

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,058
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1121 on: Apr 15, 2016, 10:58:40 AM »
Why would doing a flush lead to dark fluid color now?  I am not following.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,058
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1122 on: Apr 15, 2016, 11:24:45 AM »
Why would doing a flush lead to dark fluid color now?  I am not following.

Maybe your flush just wasn't long enough to clean it up entirely.  Synthetics have natural detergent properties (partly why synthetic engine oil lasts longer) so the Redline MT90 is going to do some "cleaning" if given the opportunity.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

1985CRAWLER

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 267
  • Male Posts: 1,163
  • Member since Feb '13
  • Backyard Built
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1123 on: Apr 15, 2016, 11:35:44 AM »
Who's to say it's the trans ? If it shifts perfect like you say I'm betting the noise is from somewhere else In the drivetrain , when my rear diff was going out it sounded like my trans/cases were gonna grenande , wasn't them at all lol , if it does everything you need it too and no major clanks or popping , run it ! Hell I ran the majority of fordyce when I lost 1st gear , 2nd gear was fun , just ask drew lol
low n' slow 85 runner SR5 22re,rcvs ,Duals,5.29s,Detroits f&r,40s,RUF,Chevy 63 rears,Armored,Cage

bobbed and beat 91 ex cab,3RZ swapped,dual ultimates, dana 44 sas 5.38/5.29 combo,37s, RUF, 63 rears,ARB front, detroit rear,cage

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=96250.msg1073007;topicseen#msg1073007

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=26920.390

OTO Phil

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 1018
  • Male Posts: 682
  • Member since Jan '16
  • Owner of Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • View Profile
    • Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • Buy me a soda
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1124 on: Apr 15, 2016, 11:51:29 AM »
That's why I'm saying test it in 4hi, then 4low... If the sound goes away, or gets quieter, you've found it.
Offroad Toy Outfitters - The best place to find an experienced-based Toyota shop in the PNW and get hands-on with your next project!
2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

SqWADoosh [OP]

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 10966
  • Male Posts: 2,417
  • Member since Oct '14
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1125 on: Apr 15, 2016, 12:08:52 PM »
you didn't get a work party warranty?  :hammer: it's a new noise so don't you think is was caused during recent "upgrades"?  is it recordable so we can hear it?
you say it sounds like the front end. wheel bearings? hub not unlocking?..................They rent jeeps in moab you know  :D

I'm going to tear into it this weekend and see what I can figure out. As far the last part....eat me.  :snare:

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,058
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1126 on: Apr 15, 2016, 03:22:56 PM »
you didn't get a work party warranty?  :hammer: it's a new noise so don't you think is was caused during recent "upgrades"?  is it recordable so we can hear it?
you say it sounds like the front end. wheel bearings? hub not unlocking?.................. They rent jeeps in moab you know  :D

We had a group of really nice Jeeps pass us while doing Sevenmile Rim on the last trip.  We identified one to be a rental 4-door JK and I would have been happy to wheel that thing.  It was really well setup and was something like $300 per day which would add up, but for a day or two on a vacation wouldn't be a bad way to go.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

SqWADoosh [OP]

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 10966
  • Male Posts: 2,417
  • Member since Oct '14
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1127 on: Apr 15, 2016, 04:13:52 PM »
We had a group of really nice Jeeps pass us while doing Sevenmile Rim on the last trip.  We identified one to be a rental 4-door JK and I would have been happy to wheel that thing.  It was really well setup and was something like $300 per day which would add up, but for a day or two on a vacation wouldn't be a bad way to go.

I'm not that desperate to run Moab that I would do it in a rental. Taking my truck and running what I brung is a big part of it for me.

SqWADoosh [OP]

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 10966
  • Male Posts: 2,417
  • Member since Oct '14
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1128 on: Apr 15, 2016, 04:17:52 PM »
Starting to think the noise I'm hearing is the pads on the rotors. Wondering if they just need to break in enough to where it isn't doing that. I jacked each tire up and spun the tires and all I heard was the rotors on the pads. It did sound like a quieter version of the sound I am hearing. I spun them as fast as I could and it got a little louder.

emsvitil

  • Offline Silver Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 7571
  • Male Posts: 3,561
  • Member since May '07
    • View Profile
    • emsvitil's album
    • Buy me a soda
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1129 on: Apr 15, 2016, 04:27:16 PM »
When you're getting the noise, apply light pressure to the brakes and see if the noise changes.
Ed
SoCal
86 SR5 XtraCab
22RE  W56B
31x10.50R15

zippo

  • Offline The 1.5K Club
  • **
  • Turtle Points: 550
  • Male Posts: 1,556
  • Member since Nov '08
    • View Profile
    • oppiz.net
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1130 on: Apr 15, 2016, 07:42:15 PM »
They shouldn't touch and make noise unless you are applying the brake. Unless your spindle nut is loose. check your spindle nut.
If you see it, its for sale.

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,058
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1131 on: Apr 15, 2016, 07:49:24 PM »
I'm not that desperate to run Moab that I would do it in a rental. Taking my truck and running what I brung is a big part of it for me.

I wasn't suggesting that you do this. Definitely "run what you brung" for sure. I have considered what I might do with a rental JK because it would be so much easier to just drive the Sequoia down and grab a rental for a couple of days. The one we saw was setup well enough that I'd probably do pretty much everything but Pritchett and White Knuckle.

1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

OTO Phil

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 1018
  • Male Posts: 682
  • Member since Jan '16
  • Owner of Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • View Profile
    • Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • Buy me a soda
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1132 on: Apr 15, 2016, 10:38:44 PM »
Did you bed the pads?
Offroad Toy Outfitters - The best place to find an experienced-based Toyota shop in the PNW and get hands-on with your next project!
2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

SqWADoosh [OP]

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 10966
  • Male Posts: 2,417
  • Member since Oct '14
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1133 on: Apr 15, 2016, 10:47:14 PM »
Did you bed the pads?

Explain bedding the pads to me....

zippo

  • Offline The 1.5K Club
  • **
  • Turtle Points: 550
  • Male Posts: 1,556
  • Member since Nov '08
    • View Profile
    • oppiz.net
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1134 on: Apr 15, 2016, 11:53:03 PM »
With new pads you should bed them. Drive 25 35 mph stop medium pressure. Do that again at 45. Then from about 55 stop as hard as you can.
If you see it, its for sale.

OTO Phil

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 1018
  • Male Posts: 682
  • Member since Jan '16
  • Owner of Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • View Profile
    • Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • Buy me a soda
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1135 on: Apr 16, 2016, 01:11:31 AM »
To bed the pads, make 10 stops from approximately 35 mph with moderate pressure. Then make two to three hard stops from 45 mph. After this, allow the brakes to cool completely, and you're all set.
Offroad Toy Outfitters - The best place to find an experienced-based Toyota shop in the PNW and get hands-on with your next project!
2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

OTO Phil

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 1018
  • Male Posts: 682
  • Member since Jan '16
  • Owner of Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • View Profile
    • Offroad Toy Outfitters
    • Buy me a soda
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1136 on: Apr 16, 2016, 01:15:27 AM »
Every once in a while, these guys actually do a decent yota write-up: http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/suspension-brakes/1604-bolt-on-better-brakes-for-your-toyota-tacoma/
Offroad Toy Outfitters - The best place to find an experienced-based Toyota shop in the PNW and get hands-on with your next project!
2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

zippo

  • Offline The 1.5K Club
  • **
  • Turtle Points: 550
  • Male Posts: 1,556
  • Member since Nov '08
    • View Profile
    • oppiz.net
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1137 on: Apr 16, 2016, 01:36:58 AM »
But if you didn't do it when they were new it's no point now. A s that wouldn't cause any noise unless you pressed the brake.
If you see it, its for sale.

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,058
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1138 on: Apr 16, 2016, 08:20:52 AM »
With new pads you should bed them. Drive 25 35 mph stop medium pressure. Do that again at 45. Then from about 55 stop as hard as you can.

This sounds pretty much what my coworker does to "condition" his brakes on his car before hitting the track.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 7674
  • Male Posts: 2,513
  • Member since May '15
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a beer
Re: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread
« Reply #1139 on: Apr 16, 2016, 08:34:00 AM »
What pads are you running? Did you happen to install them with the chirpers facing the wrong direction?
83 long bed 2wd sas, 3rz, w56, duals with 4.7 rear, 4.88 elock front, spartan rear, 39.5 iroks
01 double cab hunting truck
06 tacoma street truck

 
 
 
 
 

Related Topics

0 Replies
1433 Views
Last post Dec 01, 2006, 11:40:34 AM
by trax28to
1762 Replies
349007 Views
Last post Nov 20, 2022, 09:45:07 AM
by Dingman.
6 Replies
3456 Views
Last post Feb 01, 2010, 05:28:49 PM
by Tool Pimp
40 Replies
62460 Views
Last post Apr 04, 2015, 11:20:52 PM
by Jason E.
9 Replies
3311 Views
Last post Dec 03, 2015, 04:15:08 PM
by 84_yota_4wd