OVRAROK. My 87 4runner

Started by OVRAROK, July 11, 2014, 04:04:18 PM

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OVRAROK

Quote from: excabswap on June 21, 2016, 10:32:42 AM
Are you not getting enough torque? What size is your exhaust?

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Since the swap, I feel like it has to get up in rpms to get to that sweet spot .Exhaust pipe is 2 1/4" 16 gauge
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OTO Phil

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That's pretty small pipe.. are you running an aftermarket cam?

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2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

OVRAROK

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jimbo74

Quote from: excabswap on June 21, 2016, 10:40:57 AM
That's pretty small pipe.. are you running an aftermarket cam?

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2.25" isn't small on a 4 cyl

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OTO Phil

I've got a 2.5" from the header back, no cat, flowmeter 40, and it feels a bit restricted.. it's a 22RE with ENGNBLDR's 261 cam and Doug thorley Tri y header though so that might make a difference

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2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

SqWADoosh

Quote from: excabswap on June 21, 2016, 11:29:56 AM
I've got a 2.5" from the header back, no cat, flowmeter 40, and it feels a bit restricted.. it's a 22RE with ENGNBLDR's 261 cam and Doug thorley Tri y header though so that might make a difference

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Shouldn't feel restricted. Toyota motors love 2 1/4 exhaust so you should have too much flow especially with no cat and a flow 40.

OTO Phil

Quote from: SqWADoosh on June 21, 2016, 11:50:06 AM
Shouldn't feel restricted. Toyota motors love 2 1/4 exhaust so you should have too much flow especially with no cat and a flow 40.
Perfect answer. Yotas love 2 1/4" exhaust, so you shouldn't need to install this flange to increase back pressure.

I'm curious what kind of compression you have now..

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2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

OVRAROK

I can feel this power in the pedal, before starting swap, it felt great in donor vehicle. the donor had stock giant muffler, I made my own exhaust system, used a muffler my buddy is selling, it may not have enough back pressure, that's the only thing I can think it could be. I also used mandrel bends, which will free it up a tad as well :greengrin:. I figure if it makes it better, great!, if not, I'm out 15 bucks w/gaskets. I'm more curious then anything :headscratch:
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emsvitil

Put a cable on it, and you can adjust on the fly........................






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Ed
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86 SR5 XtraCab
22RE  W56B
31x10.50R15

OTO Phil

That'd be cool to know. Gonna have to find a dyno and test it

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2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

blackdiamond

Quote from: excabswap on June 21, 2016, 03:28:13 PM
That'd be cool to know. Gonna have to find a dyno and test it

:moon: dyno will be what he uses most likely...
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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jimbo74

your original 22 was rebuilt, not too long ago right? I wonder if the new engine just isn't as as robust as the one you built, and that is the difference you are feeling
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redneckcustoms13

A stock 3rz vs a 22re is a major difference. I think what he is feeling is te nature of the 3rz engine. It has torque at low rpm but not the same torque as a 22re. I have had both vehicles still have a few of each. The 3rz doesn't really do much until about 3k, once you reach it there's no doubt it's rolling along then.
83 long bed 2wd sas, 3rz, w56, duals with 4.7 rear, 4.88 elock front, spartan rear, 39.5 iroks
01 double cab hunting truck
06 tacoma street truck

Dingman.

He drove my tacoma with a 3rz. So im sure he can somewhat compare it.  Eventhough his is on 35"s and 4.88's but Dave should have a rough comparasion.

HogCanyonHopper

He needs to go 5.29's  :burnout:
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redneckcustoms13

My 98 taco with 4.10 and 31s was nothing at all like my 83 with 4.56 and 33s. A friend has a 96 taco with 4.56 and 32s. All different games to be played. None really feel as if they have a dead spot though. Might just need a little more gear dave.
83 long bed 2wd sas, 3rz, w56, duals with 4.7 rear, 4.88 elock front, spartan rear, 39.5 iroks
01 double cab hunting truck
06 tacoma street truck

OVRAROK

its more power then I had, for sure.  :driving: I can get 70 mph in 3rd no problem, it pulls 4th gear pretty hard, I have a lot of hills here, so I can definitely feel the difference. its probably just me  :hammerhead:
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OVRAROK

Picked up a spare ecu

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OTO Phil

Time to send it out for programming?

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2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

helipilot77

I bought some thermally conductive epoxy for waterproofing Electronics. I was going to fill up my ECU so it could go swimming. Haven't gotten around to it though.
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OTO Phil

you could seal it in a container of baby oil haha

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2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

OVRAROK

Quote from: excabswap on June 30, 2016, 09:39:26 AM
Time to send it out for programming?

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who perform this kind of work
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jimbo74

Quote from: ovrarok on June 30, 2016, 11:34:39 AM
who perform this kind of work

You might try Holmes Hobbies, I know they epoxy pot RC car electronics.... you can probably also do it yourself with corrosion x
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OTO Phil

I think he was talking about sending out his computer for programming. I don't know who does it personally, but megasquirt is a company that makes ECUs for the 22RE

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2008 4runner V6: Manual transfer case swapped, 4.88s, rear ARB, custom fabricated bumpers, sliders and more!

1993 Standard cab chassis. 1989 Extended Cab. 22R-E BO .020, ENGNBLDR 261c cam, Doug Thorley Tri-Y header, Straight Pipe through a Flowmaster 40, ARB Rear Locker, York OBA with fabricated bracket.
Projects waiting in my shop: '83 Front Axle, TG Sliders, second tcase, XD 4.70 gears!

OVRAROK

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OVRAROK

decided to pull spark plugs, found #1 and #2 to be finger loose. found a tear in #3 plug wires, looks to go halfway through. ordered some ngk tx67 wires, and picked up 4 plugs from Toyota. got new plugs in, and snugged, waiting on wires  :turtle:
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:)bestgen4runner

I know they are expensive but I would have recommended the factory Toyota wires.
I have used the Ngk wires for customers. they fall apart when age gets to them.
The Toyota wires last for almost ever.
I am 1/5th of Perfect Fit
SqWADoosh [04:19 PM]: *sigh* I guess Chris is right and I just need to wait until I'm in a place where I have a tow rig and trailer before I get this caliber of truck
Mudder [08:28 PM]:   not try to be a jerk, but are you serious bestgen?
Prismo [06:11 PM]:   Done, time to relax or as Bestgen says....FREEDOM!
HogCanyonHopper [06:54 PM]:   I like my little rod. it gets the job done
H8PVMNT [03:30 PM]: I can go both ways.

OVRAROK



Quote from: :)bestgen4runner on July 12, 2016, 12:26:50 PM

they fall apart when age gets to them.


sounds like what I'm going through,lol
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:)bestgen4runner

You personally, LOL or Your old plug wires? :outtahere:
I am 1/5th of Perfect Fit
SqWADoosh [04:19 PM]: *sigh* I guess Chris is right and I just need to wait until I'm in a place where I have a tow rig and trailer before I get this caliber of truck
Mudder [08:28 PM]:   not try to be a jerk, but are you serious bestgen?
Prismo [06:11 PM]:   Done, time to relax or as Bestgen says....FREEDOM!
HogCanyonHopper [06:54 PM]:   I like my little rod. it gets the job done
H8PVMNT [03:30 PM]: I can go both ways.

OVRAROK

Quote from: :)bestgen4runner on July 12, 2016, 12:44:13 PM
You personally, LOL or Your old plug wires? :outtahere:

as a youngster, I treated my body like an amusement park, not a temple, lol. just paying for it now. re: plug wires, motor have bosch wires on there now, #1 wire, is almost broken at metal at plug, #3 has a tear almost halfway through. I'm sure they (ngk) will be better then whats in there now. dealer wanted 101.00 for wires
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