More problems, head gasket mabye??

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BLACKDOG

#210
February 17, 2005, 10:57:29 PM
thats kinda what I was thinkin.  wish me luck, tommorow is the day! :crossed:
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RUGER

#211
February 17, 2005, 11:01:46 PM
i'll be over after my class so we can throw it back together.  :crossed: hope it works this time.

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BLACKDOG

#212
February 17, 2005, 11:02:49 PM
me too, just gotta pick up a couple of gaskets and a knock sensor wire tommorow
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

Willy Mammoth

#213
February 18, 2005, 04:29:57 AM
I would find out what Toyota recommends for torque and go with that. Also you will feel the gasket crush under the bolt as you tighten it. It will start to tighten up then get loose and then tight again. This is were you will pull till you get the proper torque. What ever pattern you use it should start in the middle and work back and forth until you get all the bolts. Tighten it in two stages, half of the required torque and then to the final torque. Make sure you oil the threads and shoulder of the bolts or you will get an inaccurate reading. If you want you can use a silicone sealer on the threads, but do not get any on the head gasket or that will make it leak. The head gasket should go on dry except for a small amount of sealer around the water jackets if they look pitted with rust or corrosion.

Good luck
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BLACKDOG

#214
February 18, 2005, 11:15:15 AM
Alrght, today is the day, the sun is shining, the birds are singing... no, actually is kinda chilly and riany.  Cant see the sun, but at least is isnt raining right now.  Have to get some stuff from the dealer, then the real fun begins :thumbs: 


Keep ya'lls fingers :crossed:
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

FATB0Y

#215
February 18, 2005, 05:10:31 PM
I take it your still workin on it  :crossed:

reklund5

#216
February 18, 2005, 05:54:55 PM
Blackdog-

Torque to 35ft lbs and then two 90* turns.  start in the middle, work your way out crossing left to right for torque pattern (middle left, middle right, rear left, front right, rear right, front left, etc...)

As WillyMammoth said, go in 2 or three passes up to the 33 ft lbs, then one 90 on all bolts, then the second 90 on all bolts. 

You may consider checking the oil cooler adaptor on the block while you've got the heads off...

Ryan

'84 Hilux, locked, dual-cased, winched, EFI converted, 37" tired, half-doored (in the summer...)
'87 Supra, 400 HP.  smooth as glass at 130 'cause my tires are NEW!...
'92 F250 Diesel, tow rig, ATS Turbo, leveling kit, killer stereo

Brandon

#217
February 18, 2005, 09:35:56 PM
the suspence is killin me..
Brandon Miller
RCRC, Sacramento, CA
www.RiverCityRockCrawlers.com

FATB0Y

#218
February 18, 2005, 10:03:25 PM Last Edit: February 18, 2005, 10:08:08 PM by 03HDFATBOY
Me 2 I'm  :chew:  @ the bit :eek:



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BLACKDOG

#219
February 18, 2005, 10:51:56 PM
didnt finish the truck today. :down: we got a late start, had to run all over town to find someone with a headgasket in stock.  we got the pass. side head completely in a otrued down, all the brackets and such bolted back up, and we got the drivers side head on, and the exhaust bolted down.  Just gotta torque down the drivers side head, and then it is on to the easy stuff :crossed: hope it works! :yupyup:  will prolly finish on sunday, have to take my sister out for her B-day tommorow
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

Ney Ney

#220
February 19, 2005, 01:09:14 AM
Good luck, I hope it works ok!   :love: :smooch:

79coyotefrg

#221
February 19, 2005, 08:45:54 AM
magnaflux  is the stuff they use to check for cracks,  it makes baby powder look like rocksalt its so fine, that why it gets in the cracks and shows up
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79coyotefrg

#222
February 19, 2005, 08:51:53 AM
he said you had two weak chambers,  i bet your valve guides were working loose, 
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BLACKDOG

#223
February 19, 2005, 04:37:33 PM
actually the seats(?) had gone eggshaped, and werent sealing properly
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

BLACKDOG

#224
February 19, 2005, 10:36:49 PM
Question, hoping that the block is fine,and thatthe reason the headgasket allowed water through, would a bad t-stat lead to this?  Bob at the shop showed me where water had gotten by the headgasket, and I know a crack is still possible, but would it have to right there on the top to do that? 
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

FATB0Y

#225
February 19, 2005, 10:37:11 PM
good luck  :crossed:

BLACKDOG

#226
February 19, 2005, 10:43:48 PM
Quote from: 03HDFATBOY on February 19, 2005, 10:37:11 PM
good luck  :crossed:

thanks fatboy, does that mean you dont know the answer?  :headscratch:   or ya just getting tired of my dumbass questions??  :hammerhead:


j/k

:beerchug:
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

reklund5

#227
February 20, 2005, 07:53:47 AM
a bad t-stat could cause enough of an overheat to blow a headgasket...but oil and water won't mix at the t-stat.

Ryan
'84 Hilux, locked, dual-cased, winched, EFI converted, 37" tired, half-doored (in the summer...)
'87 Supra, 400 HP.  smooth as glass at 130 'cause my tires are NEW!...
'92 F250 Diesel, tow rig, ATS Turbo, leveling kit, killer stereo

FATB0Y

#228
February 20, 2005, 07:56:40 AM
Quote from: blackdog on February 19, 2005, 10:43:48 PM
thanks fatboy, does that mean you don't know the answer? :headscratch: or ya just getting tired of my dumbass questions?? :hammerhead:


j/k

:beerchug:
:rofl: :rofl2: what was the question again :headscratch:

BLACKDOG

#229
February 20, 2005, 02:22:47 PM
spent 4 hours or so today on the truck, didnt finish.  I borke a couple of peices that I have to go to the dealer to replace, and We had to back track a little to get some crap out of one of the head bolt holes. (ie had to take the head back off :smack: )  So it has been a real productive day. :down:  We did get the heads back on, and the cams in, and the valve covers on, and the lover intake plenum.  All we have left is the upper intake plenum, the timing, all the hoses and lines and such, the alternator, the power steering pump, the radiator, and the fan.  wish me luck for tommorow :crossed:
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

FATB0Y

#230
February 20, 2005, 02:39:04 PM
Quote from: blackdog on February 20, 2005, 02:22:47 PM
spent 4 hours or so today on the truck, didnt finish. I borke a couple of peices that I have to go to the dealer to replace, and We had to back track a little to get some crap out of one of the head bolt holes. (ie had to take the head back off :smack: ) So it has been a real productive day. :down: We did get the heads back on, and the cams in, and the valve covers on, and the lover intake plenum. All we have left is the upper intake plenum, the timing, all the hoses and lines and such, the alternator, the power steering pump, the radiator, and the fan. wish me luck for tommorow :crossed:
good luck 4 2morrow :crossed:

BLACKDOG

#231
February 20, 2005, 02:43:58 PM
thanks fatboy.  Jeez, this is a pain in the :moon:  I swear, I cant win :smack:  oh well, life goes on, we'll see what tommorow brings :crossed:
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

reklund5

#232
February 21, 2005, 02:18:35 PM
Well, does your pile run yet????  Inquiring minds want to know!

Ryan

'84 Hilux, locked, dual-cased, winched, EFI converted, 37" tired, half-doored (in the summer...)
'87 Supra, 400 HP.  smooth as glass at 130 'cause my tires are NEW!...
'92 F250 Diesel, tow rig, ATS Turbo, leveling kit, killer stereo

Willy Mammoth

#233
February 21, 2005, 03:56:43 PM
Geezeo, you have almost as many pages as me and you are only doing head gaskets boy. Well are we there yet, not to push or anything, but the suspence is killing us. Does it work, inquiring minds wan to know.
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BLACKDOG

#235
February 21, 2005, 10:11:22 PM
 :tantrum:  :maddest:  :wall: :censored: :wall: :censored: :rivers:  :down:  :rivers:  :down:  :maddest:  :mad:

IT WASNT THE HEADS!!!!!

Chocolate milk foam, and water in the piston yet again.  It took me 5 minutes after startin it to figure that out :down:
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent

reklund5

#236
February 21, 2005, 10:15:21 PM
lets cover the basics before you go tearing into it again...

Did you:

change the oil and filter
change the coolant
check the oil cooler on the drivers side of the block for cross-contamination
run it for a few minutes and change the oil again to get all the foamy residue out of the block?
check the water pump and thermostat areas

trying to eliminate all that i can  :dunno:

ryan
'84 Hilux, locked, dual-cased, winched, EFI converted, 37" tired, half-doored (in the summer...)
'87 Supra, 400 HP.  smooth as glass at 130 'cause my tires are NEW!...
'92 F250 Diesel, tow rig, ATS Turbo, leveling kit, killer stereo

waffler

#237
February 21, 2005, 10:16:37 PM
ID LOVE TO KICK THAT TRUCK IN THE  :moon:   :spankbutt:  WE'LL WHOOP THAT TRUCK INTO SHAPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is no cure for stupidity.  Dribble happens.

Brandon

#238
February 21, 2005, 10:17:38 PM
still really weird  :headscratch:

Assuming it isn't the heads, my god that sucks you had to go through all that work and money to find the same thing you found the first time..
Brandon Miller
RCRC, Sacramento, CA
www.RiverCityRockCrawlers.com

BLACKDOG

#239
February 21, 2005, 10:20:55 PM
Quote from: reklund5 on February 21, 2005, 10:15:21 PM
lets cover the basics before you go tearing into it again...

Did you:

change the oil and filter
change the coolant
check the oil cooler on the drivers side of the block for cross-contamination
run it for a few minutes and change the oil again to get all the foamy residue out of the block?
check the water pump and thermostat areas

trying to eliminate all that i can  :dunno:

ryan

Changed the oil and filter, changed the coolant, didnt do the oil cooler or run it for a few minutes and change the oil again.  But I did stick a screwdriver wrapped in paper into the #4 piston, and the paper came out soaking wet.  also, my temp guage went sky high after mabye 5 minutes of the truck running :down:
:usa: Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees :usa:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. "

"I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves."
              -Ronald Reagan

Don't take life too seriously, it isn't permanent
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