More problems, head gasket mabye??

[BLACKDOG]

I was thinking about it, i dont remember the last time I changed mine either   I change my oil on time and do my fluids, but the plugs always seem to slip my mind

[FATB0Y]

My buddy did, however, pull the ORIGINAL as in FACTORY INSTALLED spark plugs out of a 93 4Runner today with like 140k miles on it. They were a little worn

I can't imagine why  

[Brandon]

so what time is the shindig?

Better get started semi early.. just in case..

[BLACKDOG]

whenever you wanna roll up the doors on your garage.  We're working on your time now, so you say when    And thanks again Brandon, I really appreciate it!!!

[Brandon]

Anytime after say 8am works 

[BLACKDOG]

sounds good we'll probably shoot for 8-9

[BLACKDOG]

looks like 9ish is the consensus.  Its gonna be pretty interesting.  Look for a blue nissan 2wd towing a camo xcab 4x4 down the street.   Pics are definitely gonna be taken

[Brandon]

I have a tow bar if you wanna borrow it

[Brandon]

a few pics.. no he's not done 

j/k

http://rcrc4x4.com/mambo/index.php?set_albumName=blackdog&option=com_gallery&Itemid=43&include=view_album.php

[BLACKDOG]

Nice Brandon, thanks


Thanks again for the use of the tools and your time and driveway space.  See you tommorow mornin

[Brandon]

this is giving my favorite beer a bad name



     

[FATB0Y]

Looks like ya already had 1 too many

[Brandon]

8+ hours saturday, 12+ hours sunday and.. it won't run..



Timing issue, pretty sure none of the cams or crank moved so it's just the distributor (we hope) but We stuck the crank at 0degrees and the #1 pistion up and pointed the rotor to #1, no go. Then we rotated 360 degrees and rotated the distributor 180 degrees and still no go?

What gives ??!?!?!?!

[Brandon]

hey blackdog, is it possible to put that cam that was on the head you took off on wrong? Just seems that since both cams have the same size pulley that the marks should have lined up together - was there a keyway for that cam? If not I am wondering that's it??

Can't figure what else it could be...

[RUGER]

brandon

i think the cam is right...but eassly be off. it beeing off would explain the slop in the belt and the the timeing issue.

thank you fer helping with this. 

happy trails
rich *ruger*   

[Brandon]

...it beeing off would explain the slop in the belt and the the timeing issue.

I didn't even think of that but it was odd that it had slop, really nowhere for that belt to go down there to allow it to slip.. I mean I tried to "jiggle" it around the crank and it wouldn't move. The more I think about it the more I think that's it.. UNLESS that cam was keyed such that there was only one way to put it in and I have no idea if that's the case. I think all ya gotta do to see is pull the valve cover. Someone that knew the 3.0 would know if those two marks are always "in sync"

If nobody else I guarantee a quick call to Marlin would answer that question and it would tell us wether we need to pull that front cover off and "match" the right cam to the left.

Crazy dual overhead cam engines..

[BLACKDOG]

I got off the phone with Reklund a little while ago, and he said if the cam was off, we wouldnt have compression.  I'll default to you on this brandon, but i thought we did have compression.  My ride is coming around 1 to get over there, so hopefully I can get this sorted out and my truck out of your driveway.  Reklund also siad that it is most likely the distributor, there is a way to line up the shaft with the casing, that i dont remember doing.  He thinks that is the problem.  he said to pull the upper timing cover, and crank the #1 pulley to TDC.  then align both the camshaft pulleys with their marks  on the inner timing cover. put the belt on etc, etc,  then crank the engine around 2 times, the #1 cylinder should be TDC, and the marks should be aligned on the inner timing cover.  Then go from there to distributor.

distributor, the contacts on the inside of the distributor dont match the plug alignment!  the contacts are off some, same pattern, but the contact is not where the plug wire enters the cap!!\

Some more stuff for me to try.

And the running time count for a headgasket job??  24 hours.  8 on sat, 16 on sunday

[Brandon]

I hope you understand what you jsut wrote cause I don't
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I translate to take off front and align all marks, crank over twice and then put in the dizzy to one.

[reklund5]

The camshaft timing marks should point straight up!!!  There are small grooves on the steel timing cover BEHIND the camshaft pulleys that line up with the groove on the camshaft pulleys!  Also, be sure you've got the correct pulley on the correct cam!  The "wall" on one side of the pulley faces the front of the truck on the passenger side, and the rear on the drivers side. 

With the crankshaft at "0" on cyl #1 and the cam marks straight up, THEN you can stab the dizzy.  There is a small notch on the casing of the distributor and a mark on the shaft- line those up before you stab it and it should start right up. 

Call me with any more questions, I'll call back as soon as I get out from stupid Jury Duty today...

505.400.5496

Ryan

[reklund5]

Oh, and to clarify, if the Cams were WAY off, you'd have low/no compression.  If you're only off a tooth or two, it will still have compression but wont run....

Ryan

[Brandon]

one was atleast 15 degrees off from the other, but we did do one front one back.

Thanks for the help

[BLACKDOG]

I hope you understand what you jsut wrote cause I don't
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I translate to take off front and align all marks, crank over twice and then put in the dizzy to one.

Sounds about right.  I dont understand what I say half the time.

[Brandon]

well come on over, let's get your hoopty in the garage and get it done!

[FATB0Y]

I hope you understand what you jsut wrote cause I don't
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I translate to take off front and align all marks, crank over twice and then put in the dizzy to one.

Sounds about right. I dont understand what I say half the time.

Well BD if it is any consalation I knew what ya ment

[RUGER]

let me know if i can do anything else to help.

happy trails
rich *ruger*  

[Brandon]

DONE!!   

[RUGER]

HOT DAMN   

happy trails
rich *ruger*

[chandall]

I honestly thought that thing was going to sit for a week.  Congrats, you guys looked beat everytime I came buy.   Now get that thing back into the garage and put a Dana 44 under it        It was nice meeting you guys.   

Chad 

[reklund5]

Well, WTF was it?  Was I even close?

Ryan

[Brandon]

took your advice and we managed to be one tooth off on the distributor which is MILES closer than we were and was a quick fix

THANKS!!