Author Topic: 85 4runner and the work never ends.... (Read 185867 times)

John Doe · « **Reply #270 on:** Dec 03, 2010, 06:49:10 PM »

It was some random bracket my buddy had lying around that we made work. It is something different which is nice.

John Doe · « **Reply #271 on:** Dec 28, 2010, 11:51:54 AM »

I've found that I need to install bump stops front and rear. I don't like my rear shock setup as it currently limits my flex. When stuffing my front drivers side tire my pitman arm hits the spring just before if goes flat. My front passenger side spring is sitting nearly 1" lower then the drivers side. I am collecting Rear springs from the local wrecking yards to make some custom packs from my allpro 3" fronts and the 2 packs of 2wd rear springs. I blew a heater hose a few days back and have had no luck getting a replacement. The local dealer is being a pain to deal with. There parts clerks are stupid.

John Doe · « **Reply #272 on:** Dec 30, 2010, 06:37:32 PM »

After reading up on Pirate I was going to use the the 2nd gen rears on the top, followed by the 3rd gen then 3 leafs from my current Allpro 3" pack. Anyone with any experience with Rears up Front, does this set up sound good?

Is it to much to add new Teflon pads (If I can find them) a new centering pin, and bushings? I cant reuse the 2wd centering pin since its to short, could maybe reuse the allpro centering pin. Tried Napa and they dont have any in stock and cant order any that would fit. The Teflon pads are shot and I was just thinking about new 1's wouldnt be a bad thing. As far as the Bushings, they dont look that bad but I figured the same thing as the teflon pads... It couldnt hurt. Now my biggest question is will my current bolts fit with the Rears? I'd hate to find out I need new bolts after I have everything torn apart.

Jordan7118 · « **Reply #273 on:** Dec 31, 2010, 08:20:45 AM »

I used leaf packs from a 1st gen truck for the top 3 main leaves, and they give a little more lift. I'd shy from that unless you really need the lift.

I'd definitely replace the bushings regardless with new. They should all be 18mm bolts, so your All-Pro springs should use the same bolts as the rears.

If I were you, I'd sell the All-Pros and just use RUFs. That will help offset some cost.

Make sure to use the spring clamps to your advantage. The springs become vulnerable when they fan out or all the droop is put on one or two leaves.

That's the best free advice I've got

John Doe · « **Reply #274 on:** Jan 15, 2011, 07:06:23 PM »

Where to begin......
I have been busy the past few days with a few projects to include fixing a crack in my engine bay, my 1st attempt at body work (pounding out a few dents) and the RUF's

The RUF's:
1:84/88 2wd rear main leaf
2:84/88 2wd rear 2nd leaf
3:Allpro 3" 3rd leaf
4:89-94 2wd rear main leaf cut down
5:Allpro 3" 4th leaf
6:Allpro 3" 5th leaf
7:Allpro 3" 6th leaf

So far they have moved my axle nearly 2 inches forward giving me a total of 109". I am currently sitting a little higher then I was with just the 3" allpro springs. I am going to ride it for this week and see how they look next week.

Before

After

The crack in the engine Bay went from the rear bolt hole to mount the Coil, all the way up to the lip at the hood line

I added the strap for extra measure. I am pretty sure that crack added to the Fender sagging and not lining up.

Fender damage from wheeling a while ago. The bends in the door seam are what bothered me most since the door would rub and bend the fender when ever it was opened.

And after

SloCrawler · « **Reply #275 on:** Jan 16, 2011, 09:47:07 PM »

Looks good, I'm thinking off adding packs to my ruf and switching to 2wd mains, they seem to have more arch. Those 6" shackles?

John Doe · « **Reply #276 on:** Jan 16, 2011, 09:56:12 PM »

I believe they are 6" to be honest I never checked, I can look tomorrow.

SloCrawler · « **Reply #277 on:** Jan 16, 2011, 10:08:55 PM »

Why you got the tape measure out I'm curious was the distance between spring hanger to shackle hanger.

John Doe · « **Reply #278 on:** Jan 17, 2011, 12:22:17 PM »

Quote from: Chrstphrtptts on Jan 16, 2011, 10:08:55 PM

Why you got the tape measure out I'm curious was the distance between spring hanger to shackle hanger.

Front shackle appears to be 5 1/2", bolt center to bolt center.
Front spring hanger to shackle tube is 44"

As far as my new RUF's will there be a small break in period as with any other spring? I just took a bunch of measurments and I am sitting lower by 1" at the front passenger side (and was before the RUF) and about 3/4 in the rear. My rear spring hangers are only off by about 1/8" but my rear shackle hangers are off by a good 1/2" and my rear shocks are off by a 1/2" as well. Could my rear suspension being off that little bit have a affect on the passenger side lean? As far as cargo, I have a tool box on the pass side which is a little heavy but I doubt its heavier then the 35" spare on the drivers side.

Any thoughts?

Jordan7118 · « **Reply #279 on:** Jan 17, 2011, 01:34:35 PM »

I've got the same problem. It's gradually gotten worse over time, and it's a little more pronounced.

Make sure your tires are pointing straight forward when you take measurements. I can get some serious lean by turning hard to the driver's side.

It looks like my frame side bushings in the front are shot. I'm thinking that might be the problem, but I haven't really looked too much into it.

I just replaced the F150s in the rear, so I've eliminated that as the cause.

I dunno what else to tell ya. Good luck, though!

SloCrawler · « **Reply #280 on:** Jan 17, 2011, 01:53:07 PM »

thanks

John Doe · « **Reply #281 on:** Jan 23, 2011, 03:16:51 PM »

So I went to the shop friday to pull 1 leaf out of the ruf's and swap the packs from side to side to see if that helps with the lean. Before I pulled the leafs I started taking measurements in various places while the truck was on the lift. With the lift arms just behind the front shackles, and just in front of the rear leaf hangers I measured from the ground to the frame at all for spots and determined the truck was level to the ground there. I then measured from the ground to the front and rear corners. The rear #'s were nearly identical while the #'s at the front of the frame were off by about a 1/2" if I remember correctly. So I am just about sure that my main problem causing the passenger side lean was that the front of my frame is slightly tweaked.

Now something else odd I noticed: when I had the front axle up on stands and was removing the shackle bolts, the axle appeared to be crooked.
All I had done at this point was remove the shackle bolts.

Any thoughts on the above pictures? could that be a result of the possible frame twist?

John Doe · « **Reply #282 on:** Jun 08, 2011, 11:37:20 AM »

I have forgotten to update this.....
A few new projects

Went to moab just after easter

A taste of whats to come....

redrocket93 · « **Reply #283 on:** Jun 08, 2011, 01:25:49 PM »

Nice lookin FJ80 bling.

I'll have to swing by sometime. I'm starting the pickup tailgate conversion on my runner soon and want to look at yours again.

John Doe · « **Reply #284 on:** Jun 08, 2011, 02:46:59 PM »

come on by, Im working on it most of today and tomorrow.

Wermz84 · « **Reply #285 on:** Jun 08, 2011, 03:23:30 PM »

Cool looking pics. glad to see you got out and wheeled.

I like the pic of what is to come.

THK Matt · « **Reply #286 on:** Jun 08, 2011, 05:21:08 PM »

whats that rear housing? Diamond with factory drums? whats at the ends of it?

Peterbuilt84 · « **Reply #287 on:** Jun 08, 2011, 05:35:39 PM »

Nice build, are you going to do custom housings front and rear?

Definitely going to keep an eye on this build, fj80 axles seem like something I would like to do down the road.

John Doe · « **Reply #288 on:** Jun 08, 2011, 05:56:38 PM »

Took a full float rear 80 axle chopped the ends off and shipped them to Brian at Diamond and now I have a centered rear FF80 housing. On the factory ff 80 the spindles are part of the housing. I am keeping the front housing stock for now. I should be shaving the front tomorrow. I have most of the rear assembled but I messed up 1 of the seals and have to order a new 1.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #289 on:** Jun 08, 2011, 09:26:18 PM »

It needs a 3 link

John Doe · « **Reply #290 on:** Jun 08, 2011, 11:13:55 PM »

I have STRONGLY considered it recently but thats just going to be to much $.

THK Matt · « **Reply #291 on:** Jun 09, 2011, 11:02:16 AM »

so are you using custom axle shafts then?

John Doe · « **Reply #292 on:** Jun 09, 2011, 11:35:51 AM »

Yes and they were supplied from Brian at Diamond

Wermz84 · « **Reply #293 on:** Jun 09, 2011, 03:21:24 PM »

Very cool. I keep looking at the Diamond stuff.

John Doe · « **Reply #294 on:** Jun 09, 2011, 06:47:16 PM »

Just buy my old axles, they are already built just roll them under your rig and bolt them up

Wermz84 · « **Reply #295 on:** Jun 10, 2011, 10:55:45 AM »

Quote from: John Doe on Jun 09, 2011, 06:47:16 PM

Just buy my old axles, they are already built just roll them under your rig and bolt them up

Sooo Tempting.

John Doe · « **Reply #296 on:** Jun 10, 2011, 11:05:48 AM »

Its obviously not a forsale thread but for anyone interested my current axles which will be for sale when I am done installing the new running gear:
-85 front end all gusseted up, will come with a low pinion e-locker with bad gears, arp knuckle and hubb studs, SKY widening kit, v6 brakes, 30 spline longs, marlin hysteer, tie rod and draglink, u-bolt flip kits. A complete front end just needs to be re-geared, brake lines and your truck.
-89-94 rear, 5.29 e-locker, sky rear diff armor, u bolt flip kit. Complete axle ready to bolt up under your rig.

Pm me if interested, I will not want to part these out.

Wermz84 · « **Reply #297 on:** Jun 10, 2011, 01:35:54 PM »

I've always believed that the owner of the thread can do what ever they want.

Shamb · « **Reply #298 on:** Jul 03, 2011, 09:52:05 PM »

Phew just went through the entire build *skimming*

Did you ever get the E-locker working correctly? I recall you posting that you had problems with it engauging on one of your trips.

Dig'n the diamond bling, i'll eventually go that route as well.

What made you go w/ FF80 ends? looks like those axles are full floating which will be nice in case of a break on the trail. Plan on doing disc's in the rear?

John Doe · « **Reply #299 on:** Jul 03, 2011, 10:50:54 PM »

Yea, I got the e-lockers working just fine. I had some sand and crap that got into the motor. I had to clean it out and it was fine. The fj80's were kinda of a impulse decision. It was the upcoming release of the knuckles and hysteer arms from Hellfire fab that helped me make up my mind. Full details on the axles and other updates will becoming soon. I promise.

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