Project Snoopy: 85 4Runna - Rebuild 1.0

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Jordan7118

#150
March 24, 2008, 11:13:02 AM
Well, it's pretty close to parallel, and I think the nut will be okay. I'll flex it out next chance I get. Hopefully it'll be okay  :crossed:

DTB

#151
March 24, 2008, 11:17:55 AM
I'm not sure if I explained that too well!  :headscratch:
RIP KYOTA
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Low down & durrrrrrty Rock Stacking Web Wheeler :driving: Too many Yuppies..:shake:...Not enough Hippies :flamer:  Hobbies: stealing cookies, slangin' tacos, owning tequila bars, wheeling with paco

Jordan7118

#152
March 24, 2008, 11:20:38 AM
Yea, you did fine. Two different places to look - parallel and clearance on the pitman nut  :yesnod:

Gittinit

#153
March 24, 2008, 04:21:53 PM
I think you may be fine with the mount as is, but the reason I thought you may need a flatter pitman arm is becouse..... When the springs flatten out you might have contact issues with the pitman/main leaf. You could always just bumpstop the suspension, to keep them from contacting, but thats just a bandaid, for a mistake. The pitman nut won't be as big a clearance issue as the tre, the spring moves verry little near the pitman arm nut, but significantly more near the tre.

I am prolly a mile off with what I think, too, couse pics are decieving, and its hard to tell anything till you cycle your suspension. Your homeade springs will make a difference to, as a flatter spring may have more issues than one with some noticable arc.
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

Jordan7118

#154
March 24, 2008, 04:28:07 PM
Word, Michael. I've gotta cycle it before I do anything. Flat pitman, relocate... We'll see. I think I might go out there tonight.

79coyotefrg

#155
March 24, 2008, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Jordan7118 on March 23, 2008, 11:30:03 PM


What color should I go with on the outer rings of the beadlocks?  :headscratch:
hot pink :disturbed:



lets see how the box works  befor ya change it
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

Jordan7118

#156
March 24, 2008, 11:14:13 PM
After a flex test, I think the box will be fine. However, to play it safe, I'm going to get a flat pitman arm. I also have to cut down the anti-wrap top leaf spring so that the pitman nut won't be getting messed with.

I finished up the steering box mount. I welded it smooth, and I'll be able to bolt that pup up as soon as I switch pitman arms.

I was very pleased with Snoop's flex  :muscles: I think I'll have ample travel to keep the tires connected.

No pictures yet, but I cut up the tranny tunnel more. I think the horsecollar is gonna have to go or get some significant shaving. Now the thing that hits is the top of the rear case above the front output. This means I'll be cutting a nice little square out below the passenger's seat. Then I think I'll be able to get to flatness. I'm about 2" away now.

After playing with the tubing bender a little while, I'm very pleased. The air over hydraulic is sweet, as I won't have to pump a handle or exert myself in any way... I'm soooooo cool...  :rofl2:

I rolled the 38.5 into the fenderwells, and I'm set to be cutting a sizable chunk now. This should be sweet  :eyebrow:

I'll post up pics when I get 'em. Keep the thoughts and prayers coming - I need them  :wave:

DTB

#157
March 25, 2008, 05:21:32 AM
sorry, i meant the pitman/draglink rod end to tie rod clearance....not pitman NUT  :screwy:


:yupyup:

knew something wasnt quite right there...but u guys knew what i meant


:worthless:
RIP KYOTA
Quotetoyminator2000 – There has to be dumb people in order for there to be smart people
Low down & durrrrrrty Rock Stacking Web Wheeler :driving: Too many Yuppies..:shake:...Not enough Hippies :flamer:  Hobbies: stealing cookies, slangin' tacos, owning tequila bars, wheeling with paco

Gittinit

#158
March 25, 2008, 05:29:47 AM
Quote from: DirToyBoy on March 25, 2008, 05:21:32 AM
sorry, i meant the pitman/draglink rod end to tie rod clearance....not pitman NUT  :screwy:


:yupyup:

knew something wasnt quite right there...but u guys knew what i meant


:worthless:
Yup something isn't right around here /\  :screwy:




:worthless:  :inthedark:
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

DTB

#159
March 25, 2008, 05:49:07 AM
Quote from: Gittinit on March 25, 2008, 05:29:47 AM
Yup something isn't right around here /\  :screwy:




:worthless:  :inthedark:
Hey! You agreed with me! :gap:
RIP KYOTA
Quotetoyminator2000 – There has to be dumb people in order for there to be smart people
Low down & durrrrrrty Rock Stacking Web Wheeler :driving: Too many Yuppies..:shake:...Not enough Hippies :flamer:  Hobbies: stealing cookies, slangin' tacos, owning tequila bars, wheeling with paco

Gittinit

#160
March 25, 2008, 06:06:05 AM
Quote from: DirToyBoy on March 25, 2008, 05:49:07 AM
Hey! You agreed with me! :gap:

Oh man what has gotten into me.  :disturbed: Don't worry it won't happen again!  :gap:
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

Jordan7118

#161
March 25, 2008, 12:04:06 PM
DTB & Gittinit
:bumpinbutts:

Only kidding...  :talkingn:

I'll get picks as soon as I go back out there. Might be going to Disney this weekend, but I think I need to stay and work on some stuff. Boo hiss...

Jordan7118

#162
March 27, 2008, 12:18:36 AM
I've not made it back out there for picks, so I'm sorry for that...  :outtahere:

I did have an epiphany tonight and realized how I can mount my cases. I'll post more later when I have time to explain and add pics.

Gittinit

#163
March 27, 2008, 06:10:14 AM
Quote from: Jordan7118 on March 27, 2008, 12:18:36 AM
I've not made it back out there for picks, so I'm sorry for that...  :outtahere:

I did have an epiphany tonight and realized how I can mount my cases. I'll post more later when I have time to explain and add pics.
Its later, wheres the pics? :stopit:
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

MiniSimp

#165
March 27, 2008, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: Jordan7118 on March 23, 2008, 11:30:03 PMWhat should I do differntly with the box? I had trouble getting it to come through the radiator support and still keep the body mount intact. Then I had trouble getting it to lay down. Piss... What to do now?  :dunno:
Flat pitman arm....


DTB

#166
March 27, 2008, 11:25:45 AM
I cut my radiator support and body mount to fit mine



like my grinder hack job?  :rofl2:
RIP KYOTA
Quotetoyminator2000 – There has to be dumb people in order for there to be smart people
Low down & durrrrrrty Rock Stacking Web Wheeler :driving: Too many Yuppies..:shake:...Not enough Hippies :flamer:  Hobbies: stealing cookies, slangin' tacos, owning tequila bars, wheeling with paco

Jordan7118

#167
March 27, 2008, 11:48:21 AM
MiniSimp, I think you're right  :thumbs: That's how I'll have to go, me thinks.

DTB, I like the hack. I've already hacked as much as I want to. I'm scared of getting into the body mount, though I'm told it's strong enough to take some cutting.

79coyotefrg

#168
March 27, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
heres a pic of mine ,  i leaned mine back much further, the bottom bolt holes are near  level with each other,

AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

79coyotefrg

#169
March 27, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
that reminds me i need to go  and tighten that pitman arm nut  :bolt:

AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

Gittinit

#170
March 27, 2008, 04:54:45 PM
Quote from: 79coyotefrg on March 27, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
that reminds me i need to go  and tighten that pitman arm nut  :bolt:



Funny I was just looking at that like "hmmmm I wonder?"
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

Jordan7118

#171
March 28, 2008, 11:56:53 AM
It's time to unveil my plans to see what you guys think.

I plan on buying ( :smack: ) a FROR center plate mount for the t-case to mount it up. I can't buy their rotated crossmember because I'm putting the drivetrain too far up and don't wanna cut through the body again to make the side mounts work.


I'll make the crossmember to look similar to All-Pro's crossmember in that it will use bushings that mount horizontally instead of vertically like the FROR crossmember.


Then I'll tie in the All-Pro e-brake kit by cutting it off at the plate and rewelding it to my new crossmember/plate.

I will make the attachments from the center to the framerails of 3/8" plate just like the center.

What ya think?  :dunno:

Steering Situation:
I can exchange my normal drop pitman arm for a flat pitman, so I'll be returning that soon. I'll get pics tonight when I go out there and post them up SOON <--for Michael

Post up, peeps!

79coyotefrg

#172
March 28, 2008, 07:20:55 PM
:popcorn:
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

Gittinit

#173
March 29, 2008, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: Jordan7118 on March 28, 2008, 11:56:53 AM

What ya think?  :dunno:

Steering Situation:
I can exchange my normal drop pitman arm for a flat pitman, so I'll be returning that soon. I'll get pics tonight when I go out there and post them up SOON <--for Michael

Post up, peeps!

Dangit I have nothing to contribute, or give ya a hard time about now. I was telling Mike that your finally working on this thing now. We are ready to hit some trails! :thumbs:
Hug your kids, pray for a soldier, and don't sweat the small stuff.

my favorite places:
http://www.flatnasty.net/
http://www.orvpark.com/

– fortysixandtwo – sorry, i prefer marlin because aside from gittinit, no one is a know it all a hole

Jordan7118

#174
March 29, 2008, 03:59:35 PM
Tell Mike I said hello, will ya Michael? I'm lookin' forward to putting my money on the trails  :yupyup:

Here's some of the steering box as of two nights ago. We made a plate to go over the top. Hard to tell from the photos, but I need to chop the top anti-wrap down a little, and a flat pitman will work.




Here's your commitment to flatbelly  :hammerhead:  :moon:  I believe the next obstacle is the tunny trannel by the firewall, so this is about as high as it gets. Now I have to hack up the backseat tunnel, too, for the driveshaft... Yippee!!!



And what you wanna see...

Angled...


Notice there's no gas tank...  :inthedark:  Yea, I made a mistake cutting below the passenger's seat, and now it looks like I have excuse to get a fuel cell or new gas tank. How hard is it to patch fuel line up?  :dunno: Never done that kinda work before.

Here's how I envision Snoop before fender trimming. Need to move the axle forward between 2 and 3 inches by cutting out new holes for the spring pins.


Tonight, I'll hack some more of the tunnel into the rear seat area and work on a sweet little thing I've got planned for the horsecollar crossmember  :eyebrow:

Post up some love   :love:

Jordan7118

#175
March 29, 2008, 04:06:07 PM
I tried forever to fix the first pics, but they just wouldn't happen. Fixed 'em in paint and then saved them to no avail. Sorry...  :outtahere:

79coyotefrg

#176
March 29, 2008, 06:56:10 PM
so you cut into the gas tank ??
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

Jordan7118

#177
March 29, 2008, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: 79coyotefrg on March 29, 2008, 06:56:10 PM
so you cut into the gas tank ??
No, I just cut one of the lines running below the floor, and I needed to drain the tank anyways as year-old gas through a newly-rebuilt engine isn't the best. Figure now I may as well fix the situation as opposed to putting something back that's only good enough for factory... Sheesh...

DTB

#178
March 30, 2008, 10:13:26 AM
Quote from: Jordan7118 on March 29, 2008, 07:07:50 PM
No, I just cut one of the lines running below the floor, and I needed to drain the tank anyways as year-old gas through a newly-rebuilt engine isn't the best. Figure now I may as well fix the situation as opposed to putting something back that's only good enough for factory... Sheesh...
dang..ur lucky u didnt blowed up
RIP KYOTA
Quotetoyminator2000 – There has to be dumb people in order for there to be smart people
Low down & durrrrrrty Rock Stacking Web Wheeler :driving: Too many Yuppies..:shake:...Not enough Hippies :flamer:  Hobbies: stealing cookies, slangin' tacos, owning tequila bars, wheeling with paco

Jordan7118

#179
March 30, 2008, 11:50:34 AM
 :ack:  Can't really blow up. For it to blow up, you need air, spark, and fuel. Not enough air to keep it going into the tank. We did stop cutting after we found that I'm  :hammer:

Haven't made any progress sense last pics. I'll get out there soon and see what's up. Need to run to a steel supplier and get some plate and square tube. I'm back to making a t-case mount like 4rnRick's because I've found that the e-brake kit is gonna be way too much work... Maybe I'll add a line-lock later... Who knows.
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