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oooh, she'll hurt ya for that, Jason!!
I don't think she's seen it I might be safe
The only thing that I think everyone will agree on is that Jeeps and Toys are better than Isuzu Amigos, Right FFC?
I just reported you to the moderator...umm...FCC.
Thank you Blackdiamond for the heads up... I shoulda guessed either BD or Rs would say something down those lines Jason knows my rig is tight he just won't admit it
How'd I get drug into this, I like Isuzu's, they are much better than a Jeep.
I do not understand this Jeep Vs Toyota thing or any of the battle of the brands. Some of you Toyota people make me laugh I have read your posts it seems allot of you don't have much for Jeeps, you call them heeps so then why are some of you guys and gals using a 80ish Jeep Wagoner axel on your 96 + Toyota? If you are going to go through all that trouble to do a SAS to have a jeep axel under your rig why not just buy a Jeep?
that's why our Willys is 25" longer then original. and, of course, uses mostly toyota parts
Maybe y'all need to realize is that 90% of the off- road vehicles were created from inspiration from the "Bantam / Willy's / Ford" quarter ton trucks from WWII. And we all know that those were the first mobile conveyance called "Jeeps". When did Toyota start making 4x4 trucks?
FFC gonna like this answer.
I already know'd it... my mamma's got one of dem der Ford Jeeps
Alright I get a kick out of this forum. Some of you compare apples to oranges and some of you have done a pretty good job of showing both sides of the spectrum. But who really cares what it is if it works for what you want to do with it. That being said if you want to avoid the most headache there are better years by both auto makers. I am a big fan of the CJs, I have a 51 CJ3A, untill last summer it was extremely under maintained, and completely stock, never having been in a shop. Wheeled all over the place and did very well. Who can dispute a rig that wheeled for over 50 years nearly trouble free. The old land cruisers had something to be admired also, even into the eighties. Jeep put out some pretty flimsy rigs here and there, but now with the rubi what does yota have that can compete out of the box. The land cruiser, nice lookin, nice price for a doctor, extreme offroading naahhh. Its like calling an H2 a rock crawler. To everyone may you drive what ya love, and love what ya drive.
You've got a point there, Rubicon is a nice rig out of the box, not perfect but a good starting point. Still it will cost you a bag full of money to get one and then it is just a starting point. Break out a bunch more money to make it a real rockcrawler. I think this thread is refering to people that are not going to go out and purchase a $45,000.00 dollar rig and put another $5,000.00 into it, voiding the warranty. I looked at the Rubicon, very nice but it would be several years before I'd want to really wheel it. A couple of my club members bought them and have poured gobs of aftermarket $ into them to make them trully trail worthy.
She's got one of these, wow it sure must be worth a fortune. Truth be known, that was the 1st US 4x4 sas conversion Now for where the 1st in the world we'd have to go across the pond to the old country to someone not known for making 4x4's but is better known for sporty little cars Porcshe. Though even that is questionable.
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