Jeep vs. Toyota

[WHITE_TRASH]

Do I have any examples?  Yup sure do, Ive got three buddies that all run xj's.  One was on 32's, another is on 35's while the 3rd is on 33's.  The one on 32's is ripped along the roof/driprail line above the rear hatch.  As is the one on 35's.  The one on 33's has ripped the door hinges off the cowl section fron being extremely wedged in a crevass. 

The one that was on 32's now is sitting on a nissan frame.  I cut the unibody off and was completely amazed as to just how flimsy it truely is.  So yea Id say that I DO know what Im talking about on this subject.

[Rocksurfer]

Do I have any examples?  Yup sure do, Ive got three buddies that all run xj's.  One was on 32's, another is on 35's while the 3rd is on 33's.  The one on 32's is ripped along the roof/driprail line above the rear hatch.  As is the one on 35's.  The one on 33's has ripped the door hinges off the cowl section fron being extremely wedged in a crevass. 

The one that was on 32's now is sitting on a nissan frame.  I cut the unibody off and was completely amazed as to just how flimsy it truely is.  So yea Id say that I DO know what Im talking about on this subject.

Ask and Ye' shall recieve.  

[iNfErNaL]

Something for the Jeep Haters.

[motorider228]

I cut the unibody off and was completely amazed as to just how flimsy it truely is.

They are extremely flimsy, I used to have an 86 XJ with 35's 4:1 case arb front welded rear 4.55's blah blah blah you get the picture, but when it was all flexed out my doors wouldnt open. I also know a guy who had a late 80's XJ which was built really well and his doors wouldnt open either when it was all flexed out. maybe it was just our POS's but thats the reason I hate unibodies. Other than unibody jeeps i like them, like yj's and cj's are great.

[toynorcal]

Well as you can see in this picture... not too much out of the ordinary. I just can't belive he would try to traverse that kind of terrain. Maybe he should have tried taking the easier line... in .. his ... backyard       

[toynorcal]

And this one is for those who find them selves on a narrow trail realizing they don't have the right equipment to finish the run they can now turn around, tuck tail and run with ease.    cheers to Jeep Co. for understanding their consumer base.

[toynorcal]

FFC should be able to appreciate this one. I give you the toughest jeep made.... by Ford? Oh it's true alright. 1941 Ford GP Prototype Army Jeep.

[toynorcal]

Ok...here it goes aagainn. Jeep tries to make it up lame trail my sons big wheel could climb...

Jeep breaks drive shaft and rolls into a tree......

Toyota at the top winches broken jeep up tonka toy slope.


Jeep vs. Toyota  I can hear the ring ref. now.. "Ding Ding! And here they come out of their corners, Ooohh and Jeep twists his ankle standing up! Toyota's not waisting anytime OoOoO he's parked on his head, its over folk's! It's all over! 

[iNfErNaL]

          ...By far I would say in stock to somewhat built form,Toyota is the better contender.

[4DEES]

it seems as thought toynorcal is saying that yotas never break, not true cause I've broken the out of mine. also been pulled by a JEEP. quit being a damn hater.   

[toynorcal]

...By far I would say in stock to somewhat built form,Toyota is the better contender.

it seems as thought toynorcal is saying that yotas never break, not true cause I've broken the out of mine. also been pulled by a JEEP. quit being a damn hater.

Ease the trigger 40's, I'm just pokin fun.

I knew you would appreciate those Infernal. But just so people don't think that I am a Jeep hater or think anything TOYOTA is the ... Here is a pic for you Jeepers, if you haven't seen it already, as proof that even a built Toy can be lame.  

[4DEES]

   ouch!

[Rocksurfer]

Ease the trigger 40's, I'm just pokin fun.

I knew you would appreciate those Infernal. But just so people don't think that I am a Jeep hater or think anything TOYOTA is the ... Here is a pic for you Jeepers, if you haven't seen it already, as proof that even a built Toy can be lame.  

That thing wasn't set up for offroad it's a mall cruiser.

[justachillin2]

Ease the trigger 40's, I'm just pokin fun.

I knew you would appreciate those Infernal. But just so people don't think that I am a Jeep hater or think anything TOYOTA is the ... Here is a pic for you Jeepers, if you haven't seen it already, as proof that even a built Toy can be lame.  

Crap John that thing flexes better than your toy. One day you will be able to flex like my jeep. Maybe.

[wa4x4]

Eh thats what you get for putting massive blocks on a truck..

[WHITE_TRASH]

You guys do realize thats bigtonka's truck right?

[wa4x4]

Yeah. I do. He's a good guy. I don't know how well he's going to take his truck being an example of how not to do it, because I have to hand it to him it looks cool coming down the road. But he needs to rework that suspension, badly.

[motorider228]

I think its a cool truck for what he built it for, he didnt build it as a hard core wheeler by what i read but it seems to be more of a sick huge truck to drive around so i think its pretty sweet. 

[Rocksurfer]

I think he knows his truck has no flex, he started the NO FLEX thread that the picture comes from. He has stated many times that his suspension sucks and was not made for rockcrawling.

[4DEES]

But he needs to rework that suspension, badly.

I don't think he "NEEDS"  to do anything,it's his rig right?      

[mudmaster]

I don't think he "NEEDS" to do anything,it's his rig right?

Exactly

[zuknstien]

who cares about toyotas and jeeps, we all know suzukis are better   

[Rocksurfer]

who cares about toyotas and jeeps, we all know suzukis are better   

......Now go back to the Suzuki thread where you belong.......

[toynorcal]

You guys do realize thats bigtonka's truck right?

Yep

who cares about toyotas and jeeps, we all know suzukis are better

Nope

ouch!

Glad alteast one persons laughing

I don't think he "NEEDS" to do anything,it's his rig right?

Agreed

Seems I rattled some cages although I am not to sure why? I figured since TONKA put his truck on a "non-flex" thread he was good about taking a joke. Just havin a bit of fun guys, not trying to step on any toes.  

[HotSEXJ]

I have an XJ and a Yota and they BOTH suck

XJ throws rods
Yota's had 4 transmissions in 5 months

[*FFC*]

FFC should be able to appreciate this one. I give you the toughest jeep made.... by Ford? Oh it's true alright. 1941 Ford GP Prototype Army Jeep.

However, We're talkin foreign and domestic vehicles here.  It's been proven that foreign vehicles last longer and get better gas mileage and are more durable don't ask me for proof, I'm talkin from experience... Bein 20 years old and been through about 18 vehicles since I've started driving

[zuknstien]

I was joking the only thing thats suzuki on my samurai is the body(whats left of it) and the frame! everything else is toyota.

[motorider228]

I have an XJ and a Yota and they BOTH suck


Yota's had 4 transmissions in 5 months

what kind of yota is it? make and year? also what trannies are they? and are you doing something wrong? i dont think thats right but i dont know.

[Rocksurfer]

I have an XJ and a Yota and they BOTH suck

XJ throws rods
Yota's had 4 transmissions in 5 months

I'd start wondering about my mechanic or my driving style with that much trouble.

[HotSEXJ]

Here's the story:

Bought a 1993 2WD T100 Standard Cab with a 3VZ-E and an R150 and only 70K miles as a daily driver because the Jeep kept blowing up - it's trail rig status was long overdue.

I drove the Yota for about 6 weeks and then the transmission grenaded - I'm gonna blame it on the previous owner because I drive like a grandma, and the rear bumper was all f'd up from lots of trailering.

It got transmission #2, a used R150 from NY, didn't work, no 2nd or 4th, never drove it
It got transmission #3, a reman R150 from Minnesota, didn't work, no 2nd or 4th, never drove it
It got transmission #4, a reman from VA, didn't really work, 2nd is iffy, 3rd is too shallow, 4th is too shallow
That's what's in it now for daily driver duty (I was without a working automobile for 10 weeks June 16 thru Sept 6th, had to get back on the road)

I'm blaming it on the inability of American mechanics to rebuild an R150.

The XJ blowing the engine (first) and the torque converter (second, that's when I bought the Yota) is understandable, she went swimming.