Jeep vs. Toyota

[boggerunner]

i traded a 500 dollar 72 cj5 for my 90 4runner with a bad motor, who do u think came out ahead?

[BLACKDOG]

oooh, she'll hurt ya for that, Jason!!

  I don't think she's seen it   I might be safe

[blackdiamond]

  I don't think she's seen it   I might be safe

I just reported you to the moderator...umm...FCC.   

[Lady Di]

The only thing that I think everyone will agree on is that Jeeps and Toys are better than Isuzu Amigos, Right FFC?   

 



 




  

[Brandon]

it doesn't mater what you start with, you strip it all out anyway..

[kneedownnate]

Not me man, not yet atleast.  508,000 miles on mostly all toyota parts, no lift or nuffin.  Sure, I'm stock pilin my marlin parts, but there are a few essentials missin before the poo hits the fan......man



Long long ago I wanted a cj5, but my dad talked me out of it with a couple good reasons, one being they're crude.  I didn't fully grasp it at the time, but that coupled with the dependability steered me away.  He also talked me out of toyotas, but for no other reason than how expensive they were to buy.  This is back in 92/93 mind you, so the last first gen was still only about 10 years old, and were still getting a premium.  I settled for an 84 nissan 4by, which did serve me well and was dependable, but had NO ground clearance or power.  Couldn't stand the way the front end wallowed through turns either, that's where my disdain for ifs first sprouted.

Thanks dad, but look what you've started 

[*FFC*]

I just reported you to the moderator...umm...FCC.   

Thank you Blackdiamond for the heads up... I shoulda guessed either BD or Rs would say something down those lines Jason knows my rig is tight he just won't admit it

[Rocksurfer]

Thank you Blackdiamond for the heads up... I shoulda guessed either BD or Rs would say something down those lines Jason knows my rig is tight he just won't admit it

How'd I get drug into this, I like Isuzu's, they are much better than a Jeep.

[*FFC*]

How'd I get drug into this, I like Isuzu's, they are much better than a Jeep.

Cuz usually it's either you or BD so I wasn't surprised when it was one of you

[82toyotakid]

read the very first post all though i like toyotas the most i cant hate on others because of its make if its a good rig i give that person respect no matter if its nice or a project in the working people at school dont deserve respect ( most of them) because they talk crap about toyotas being a piec of S*&t and it bugs me but im over it now TOYOTA POWER!!! lol

[skid]

I do not understand this Jeep Vs Toyota thing or any of the battle of the brands.

Some of you Toyota people make me laugh I have read your posts it seems allot of you don't have much for Jeeps, you call them heeps so then why are some of you guys and gals using a 80ish Jeep Wagoner  axel on your 96 + Toyota? If you are going to go through all that trouble to do a SAS to have a jeep axel under your rig why not just buy a Jeep?

Psst,  Dana/Spicer makes that front axle.  Not Jeep, and it's a good thing.  Look how the model 20 rear came out.  Do you like having your tire pass you?

[Brandon]

well you can't compare a 53 jeep to an 85 toyota, year for year they are both built well and honestly you'd have a hard time convincing me EITHER is better - but they excell in different areas stock and once built up it doesn't matter what you start with..

I'd take a Rubicon TJ over a yota anyday though. Don't get me wrong, I love yotas cause I can't afford that jeep..

[RockSlayer]

Maybe y'all need to realize is that 90% of the off- road vehicles were created from inspiration from the "Bantam / Willy's / Ford"  quarter ton trucks from WWII.  And we all know that those were the first mobile conveyance called "Jeeps".  



When did Toyota start making 4x4 trucks?

[abnormaltoy]

I've got nothin' against Jeeps...just too small for me.

[Lady Di]

that's why our Willys is 25" longer then original. and, of course, uses mostly toyota parts

[abnormaltoy]

that's why our Willys is 25" longer then original. and, of course, uses mostly toyota parts

I sat in an old one, probably CJ5 era, and my knee hung out the drivers door! Definitely wouldn'twork in the rocks.

[Rocksurfer]

Maybe y'all need to realize is that 90% of the off- road vehicles were created from inspiration from the "Bantam / Willy's / Ford"  quarter ton trucks from WWII.  And we all know that those were the first mobile conveyance called "Jeeps".  



When did Toyota start making 4x4 trucks?

The 1st Land Cruiser's were in 1950 don't know of anything earlier. I believe Suzuki was into it even earlier.

[Willy Mammoth]

Jeep or Willys Overland came out in 1943 If I recall.

Who made the first 4x4? Anybody watch the history chanel?

[Rocksurfer]

FFC gonna like this answer.

[Rocksurfer]

....Mr. Livingood, put his invention on a Ford.

[kneedownnate]

Maybe y'all need to realize is that 90% of the off- road vehicles were created from inspiration from the "Bantam / Willy's / Ford"  quarter ton trucks from WWII.  And we all know that those were the first mobile conveyance called "Jeeps".  

When did Toyota start making 4x4 trucks?

Look back through the thread a bit, a bubble may be burst

[*FFC*]

FFC gonna like this answer.

I already know'd it... my mamma's got one of dem der Ford Jeeps

[Rocksurfer]

I already know'd it... my mamma's got one of dem der Ford Jeeps

She's got one of these, wow it sure must be worth a fortune.



Truth be known, that was the 1st US 4x4 sas conversion

Now for where the 1st in the world we'd have to go across the pond to the old country to someone not known for making 4x4's but is better known for sporty little cars Porcshe. Though even that is questionable.

[skipnrocks]

Alright I get a kick out of this forum.  Some of you compare apples to oranges and some of you have done a pretty good job of showing both sides of the spectrum.  But who really cares what it is if it works for what you want to do with it.  That being said if you want to avoid the most headache there are better years by both auto makers.  I am a big fan of the CJs,  I have a 51 CJ3A,  untill last summer it was extremely under maintained, and completely stock, never having been in a shop.  Wheeled all over the place and did very well.  Who can dispute a rig that wheeled for over 50 years nearly trouble free.  The old land cruisers had something to be admired also, even into the eighties.  Jeep put out some pretty flimsy rigs here and there, but now with the rubi what does yota have that can compete out of the box.  The land cruiser,  nice lookin, nice price for a doctor,  extreme offroading naahhh.  Its like calling an H2 a rock crawler.  To everyone may you drive what ya love,  and love what ya drive.   

[Rocksurfer]

Alright I get a kick out of this forum.  Some of you compare apples to oranges and some of you have done a pretty good job of showing both sides of the spectrum.  But who really cares what it is if it works for what you want to do with it.  That being said if you want to avoid the most headache there are better years by both auto makers.  I am a big fan of the CJs,  I have a 51 CJ3A,  untill last summer it was extremely under maintained, and completely stock, never having been in a shop.  Wheeled all over the place and did very well.  Who can dispute a rig that wheeled for over 50 years nearly trouble free.  The old land cruisers had something to be admired also, even into the eighties.  Jeep put out some pretty flimsy rigs here and there, but now with the rubi what does yota have that can compete out of the box.  The land cruiser,  nice lookin, nice price for a doctor,  extreme offroading naahhh.  Its like calling an H2 a rock crawler.  To everyone may you drive what ya love,  and love what ya drive.   

You've got a point there, Rubicon is a nice rig out of the box, not perfect but a good starting point. Still it will cost you a bag full of money to get one and then it is just a starting point. Break out a bunch more money to make it a real rockcrawler.

I think this thread is refering to people that are not going to go out and purchase a $45,000.00 dollar rig and put another $5,000.00 into it, voiding the warranty. I looked at the Rubicon, very nice but it would be several years before I'd want to really wheel it. A couple of my club members bought them and have poured gobs of aftermarket $ into them to make them trully trail worthy.

[blackdiamond]

You've got a point there, Rubicon is a nice rig out of the box, not perfect but a good starting point. Still it will cost you a bag full of money to get one and then it is just a starting point. Break out a bunch more money to make it a real rockcrawler.

I think this thread is refering to people that are not going to go out and purchase a $45,000.00 dollar rig and put another $5,000.00 into it, voiding the warranty. I looked at the Rubicon, very nice but it would be several years before I'd want to really wheel it. A couple of my club members bought them and have poured gobs of aftermarket $ into them to make them trully trail worthy.

Jeep will warranty up to a 4 inch lift and 33 inch tires.  You can go a lot of places with 33's, 4.0 gears, lockers, etc...

Granted it isn't a cheap rig, but it would be a great Daily Driver and could wheel the majority of difficult, not extreme, trails.

I'm not sure building a late model Toyota truck or 4Runner would be much cheaper. 

[*FFC*]

She's got one of these, wow it sure must be worth a fortune.



Truth be known, that was the 1st US 4x4 sas conversion

Now for where the 1st in the world we'd have to go across the pond to the old country to someone not known for making 4x4's but is better known for sporty little cars Porcshe. Though even that is questionable.

Naw hers looks like a jeep It's an early 40's.... From what I've discovered it's a Ford Jeep

[skipnrocks]

You've got a point there, Rubicon is a nice rig out of the box, not perfect but a good starting point. Still it will cost you a bag full of money to get one and then it is just a starting point. Break out a bunch more money to make it a real rockcrawler.

I think this thread is refering to people that are not going to go out and purchase a $45,000.00 dollar rig and put another $5,000.00 into it, voiding the warranty. I looked at the Rubicon, very nice but it would be several years before I'd want to really wheel it. A couple of my club members bought them and have poured gobs of aftermarket $ into them to make them trully trail worthy.

Alright,  your right its not cheap,  but its not 45000 either,  you can get one loaded with all jeep has to offer for around 30,000.  you may want to lift it and put tires on it but even stock it wheels 10 times better than the new four runner,  they are a joke when it comes to offroading, might as well take a ford escape.  Dont see many on the trails these days.  And while most companies are working towards accomidating the soccer mom, every year jeep comes out with improvements to make it more capable outof the box. 

[*FFC*]

This thread shouldn't be here.... like ya'll have said a million times before, it's like comparing apples to oranges.  Some people like the sweentess of a red delicious, others like the tartness of an orange... so what.  It's a never ending argument.

[DTB]

Toyotas are better. End of story. k.