A New Whatever - MCR14 Break in.

[Wermz84]

   I just got done ordering my MC Transmission! !   

G54 with the heavy duty bearings.   


I just had to share, I have been waiting soo long to be able to afford it.  Hopefully this will be my last tranny job for a while.  Been through 3 transmissions in in less than 2 years. 

now who has a transmission jack i can borrow?

[Rocksurfer]

Don't need no tranny jack to put that in, I've always used a floor-jack. Congrats on the new trans.

[jimbo74]

wermz you dont need a tranny jack, lol these things are light.....


rob and i jsut installed his r151f with a floor jack and being creative




sweet ont the tranny, i wnat one! my truck has a g52

[Rocksurfer]

wermz you dont need a tranny jack, lol these things are light.....


rob and i jsut installed his r151f with a floor jack and being creative




sweet ont the tranny, i wnat one! my truck has a g52

[Wermz84]

Don't need no tranny jack to put that in, I've always used a floor-jack. Congrats on the new trans.

Thanks.    I'm excited.

Ive always used a floor-jack too.  i was just wondering if it would be any easyer to use the tranny jack.  

[Wermz84]

sweet ont the tranny, i wnat one! my truck has a g52

So does mine.  thats why i got the G54, with the heavy duty bearings.    they automatically make it a g54 when you order a g52.  

[jimbo74]

so when you want to herculiner my floor for me?

[Wermz84]

so when you want to herculiner my floor for me?

When you find me someone who can weld my suspension in.   

[BLACKDOG]

Thanks.    I'm excited.

Ive always used a floor-jack too.  i was just wondering if it would be any easyer to use the tranny jack.  

Not really.  I actually had more of a headache using one than a floor jack.  Of course, the tranny jack was rusty, and old, and leaking hydraulic fluid all over, but that thing was just a PITA.  I've used a floor jack in conjuncture with ratchet straps through the door sills with great results more than once

[Wermz84]

thanks for the input.  guess I'll just stop looking for one. 

[tom w.]

when we did mine i had one brother to run the jack, me to run the tail end of the tranny, and my other brother to help get it lined up with the motor.

fairly easy.

[Rocksurfer]

Not really.  I actually had more of a headache using one than a floor jack.  Of course, the tranny jack was rusty, and old, and leaking hydraulic fluid all over, but that thing was just a PITA.  I've used a floor jack in conjuncture with ratchet straps through the door sills with great results more than once

Good catch there I forgot about the ratchet straps,

[Rocksurfer]

when we did mine i had one brother to run the jack, me to run the tail end of the tranny, and my other brother to help get it lined up with the motor.

fairly easy.

Ratchet straps make great brother replacements, I had to do mine alone.

[rednk1980]

I went and bought a tranny holder that goes on top of the floor jack works like a dream. I think it was like 80$ but my dad got it so i will have to get back to you on where i got it from. 

[Wermz84]

Thanks for the input guys.  Dang I wish I had 2 brothers    I usually do what you described all by myself.  I have got pretty good at it. Sometimes I can get someone to help operate the jack.   I'm usually underneath bench pressing the bell housing while supporting part of the t-case with my knee and thigh (this helps align the tail end).    It was just the last time when it started raining real bad while i was underneath the truck and the rain water started pooring down the firewall, the bell housing got real slippery and I almost dropped it on my face.     that would have sucked.    so i started wondering if one would help.

I looked at that style rednk and it didn't look like it would  work with my 30 year old sears jack.   Gonna do the ratchet strap thing next time.



UGh,   the wait is killing me.  and its only been 2 days!!   someone freeze me in ice for 3 weeks so the wait will be instant 

just like Cartman, when he wanted the Ninto Wii.  

[Wermz84]

OK, I cannot figure it out and I am going nuts.      The loud incessant clacking, esp under acceleration, that mostly goes away when I press in the clutch.  Ive tried ignoring it and tell my self F' it, just let the engine blow.  But I couldn't do that and now Ive been searching around for clues.

What I know.
It does not sound like its comming from the front of the engine block, kinda sounds like the rear somewhere.
When I rev it while the clutch is in; a few small clacks then nothing all the way to 4k rpm
Engine; rebuilt less than 2 years old.   

I have tried the usuall suspects

• Timing
• Valve Clearance, checked several times now
• Timing Chain Guide, (already a metal backed guide)

These are all fine.


I was reading in rednk1980's thread when he had a similar problem and someone suggested throw out bearing.  Does this seem feasable?    Can someone please explain this? 

The clutch, pressure plate, and bearing were all brand new from Toyota when I did the engine.  the tranny is from a junk yard and it does make a  gurgling noise at idle without clutch pressed in.   Pulling my transmission out soon, if there is something I can do while i'm in there I will. 


thanks.

[CrazyYota]

it could be the throw out bearing. mine has a very loud screech but only when going slow around 25-30mph. and my engine was rebuilt a year ago.  i used the same used throw out bearing but i should have bought a new one!

[jimbo74]

im almost thinking youve got an exhaust leak..... the 22r is NOTORIUS for the back header studs backing out or becoming stripped and thus, leaking there

[Wermz84]

Thanks guys.  I'll look into both of those.



Aussie Locker Ordered!!   Want ARB but the wallet says No!    I am sure this will hold me over. 

[MiniSimp]

Right on!

[Wermz84]

I'm stoked.  And I picked up an 86 rear end a while ago that it will go into.    

[John Doe]

Sounds good Man. Now hurry up and get 1 of your rigs on the trail 

[Wermz84]

Between reading my FSM and this -->http://gearinstalls.com/bill.htm I am positive I can do this in my apartment.  (minus the Crush Sleeve part)  I just need to find one of them dial guage thingamabobs!!


I will document for all to see.  Success or failure.  

Sounds good Man. Now hurry up and get 1 of your rigs on the trail 

I'm working on it.   lol.

[Duffil]

dont' waste your money/time with the sleeve.  Get a solid spacer.  It can take a little longer to get it right, but it's well worth it IMO.

[MiniSimp]

dont' waste your money/time with the sleeve.  Get a solid spacer.  It can take a little longer to get it right, but it's well worth it IMO.

X2

[Wermz84]

Thanks.   I should probably just do it while I have it appart.   


So anybody know where to get one of those dial guage set ups?    First pic in the link above, or can I measure the backlash and runout some other way?   the FSM shows something like that as well.

[fullthrottle]

So anybody know where to get one of those dial guage set ups?

one of thise should work for you, you don't need to spend to muck on one of thise $15-$30 you want a 0.0" to 1.00 traval  (http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/N2DRVSH?PACACHE=000000018173097 i would get the SPI second one down )
and for the base this is the kind that i like to use and probably is the cheepest you will find it for
(http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1755971&PMT4NO=24226482)
good luck

[synwars]

Aussie Locker Ordered!!   Want ARB but the wallet says No!    I am sure this will hold me over. 

It certainly will, I love mine! Works awesome. Synthetic really helps to quiet the clacking.

Between reading my FSM and this -->http://gearinstalls.com/bill.htm I am positive I can do this in my apartment.  (minus the Crush Sleeve part)  I just need to find one of them dial guage thingamabobs!!

I don't get it. Crush vs Solid? Are you installing gears too or just the Aussie?

[Wermz84]

It certainly will, I love mine! Works awesome. Synthetic really helps to quiet the clacking.

I don't get it. Crush vs Solid? Are you installing gears too or just the Aussie?

thanks for the tip about Synthetic.

sorry for the confusion.  guess this is what happens when I don't have a plan. 

I'm just putting in the locker right now without regearing it.  Since the Axle is in unknown condition I plan on freshening up the Diff.   especially if there is any slop.





thanks for the link Fullthrottle.

[synwars]

I'm just putting in the locker right now without regearing it.  Since the Axle is in unknown condition I plan on freshening up the Diff.   especially if there is any slop.

Setting up gears can be tricky especially if you have not done one before. Factory set ups come with a crush sleeve installed. If you are freshening up the pinion and planning on installing a solid spacer, you will need to use new shim values and a press to install the bearings and pinion into the housing. You will also need a proper torque wrench in order to get the pinion preload readings. This is in addition to a dial indicator. It's quite involved. IMHO, I'd only pull the pinion apart if there were missing teeth or brutal slop. Most cases, you can freshen up a 3rd simply by tightening the Carrier Bearing PreLoad to 150 ft-lbs or so.

If I were you, I'd pull the carrier out of the housing, check the PBPL for 8-15 lbs and check the flange for slop on the pinion splines. In most instances everything is fine, it is usually the carrier bearings that back off or wear in with time.

My

Therefore, I suggest: Don't fix what ain't broken! Keep your solid spacer for when you upgrade your gears.