Hmmm. Last night I told him, "Thanks for starting my runner thread for me!" He has already hijacked it back and I didn't even get a chance to post on it! Probably just keep 'em together as he's doing a majority of the work, while I serve beers and polish chrome for my '64 t-bird. Although, I get to weld this time. yay! Guess the floor plates are as good as place as any to start.