Topic: Message #1172766

[H8PVMNT]

As promised, I am trying to give you a sincere answer.

No, I don't consider myself a democrat and I am not registered with any party. I do however vote for the democratic party, in part to vote against the Trump republicans, in part since the democrats are more aligned with my point of view. What I would want is a socially liberal and fiscally conservative party, but that does not exist.

I do not know if Biden will do good for all. The man has been in office for less than a month, so maybe it is a little too early to judge, don't you think? And why are you calling him a racist? Did you object to the countless deeply racist overtones of Trump, where many concrete examples can be listed, from Louisville to the capitol storming, from his KKK support to his remarks about Mexico, from him calling blacks inherently lazy to him lumping in all asians together? Can you list concrete examples for Biden over his years?

The pipelines-yes, this is problematic. But if you don't recognize that fossil fuels are on the way out, you can't be helped. Just look at Trump's promises about all the coal jobs, none of which materialized. That age is just over. Just because we all like trucks with tractor motors we should not live in the illusion that this will go on. I hope he will come up with alternative jobs-there is huge potential in alternative energy and environmental protection. One can always hope.

What is good about Biden? That he brings decency and honesty back to the white house, and that he brings respect back to the US.
The constant lies about absolutely everything, more than 20,000 over 4 years, from his first second in office (the inauguration crowd and the weather) to his last second (the lost election), just lies, lies, lies. Unnecessary lies, stupid lies, offensive lies, constant lies. Coupled with deep nepotism and profiteering, Trump has made the US the laughing stock of the world. no one trusted him or his word (rightfully so), no one took him seriously (rightfully so).
This will get better under Biden. Biden was not my first choice as candidate, but I take him, since it was clear that he could win. He is old fashioned, but he is respected. And he is a decent person, pretty much everyone who is half way moderate agrees on that.
Further, Biden trusts in science. The complete fuckup of the pandemic, from lying about the seriousness to making masks political has put the US dead worst in the pandemic situation in the world. That was avoidable, and Biden will bring the importance of science back.

You are correct, few people like Pelosi. But she was effective in exposing Trump as the petty little liar and whiny loser that he has always been. Now it is time for her to go.

Labeling Harris as communist really takes away from the horror that communism is. You use it as a label. but can you actually name a few policies that she promoted that are truly communist? I bet you can not, since they don't exist. Communism, as it was practiced in Eastern Germany or the USSR pre-Gorbachov is so far from any policy that is practiced by anyone in the US. So don't use it as a meaningless label, but attack real policies.

So you ask how was the country worse off under Trump? First, we are only 2 weeks into the Biden administration, so this is not a valid comparison.
but given the lies, the nepotism, the lack of decency, the incompetence, the racism, the rise of white supremacists, the economic mess we are in, the totally bungled pandemic response, i ask you: How can we be worse off under Biden?

Thank for the answer.  On the racist stuff, didn't you see the "ni@@er" quotes from Biden on video over the years?   Not saying he didn't clean up his speech over the years but holy cow!  That guy was blatantly racist.  I don't think Trump was totally honest but I don't think Biden is honest at all or even knows what's going on around him.  I will not waste time trying to play change your mind.   I feel a little sorry for you as you seem to be bought into the "narrative" pretty well.  Not trying to be Trumpy or insulting, just my perspective about what you believe. I'm sorry if that came across bad.  I'm trying to take that stance on people who I disagree with to avoid getting bitter towards them, as I think that's the bigger problem in our country right now.  I am not going to sit here and play change your mind.   I will respect your opinion to think how you want.  We all need to be able to disagree again without hitting each other with pipes.

I too am loath to associate fully with a party, as I think overall these people in positions of power are mostly liars. On the Kamala and communism, the information I have is her parents were straight up communist party. This is concerning to me. Maybe that's not true, which would be a comfort.  I know what we have coming down the pipe is nothing like what we have seen in other countries, it's a totally different flavor.  The main commonality I see being the control of information to the masses.  Whether it's government or not it's there and it's working. 





Other than the country being divided which I don't put on Trump or Biden, my personal financial life is better under the effects of 4 years of Trump.  Way less taxes, cheap gas. 

Republican vs. democrat the only personal example I have is my job in state government...  We got a republican director at work who values hard work and integrity, which is a big switch from the "just show up for work and go through the motions" we had for years under democrats.  There was a secret code that you didn't really have to do your job.  No reward if you did.  That might be an isolated incident.


We will have to see what happens.  Lets talk again in 4 years.