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[86bobbedtoy]

Jan84HJ60
you contribute nothing to this forum, why are you here?

I don't go on forums to purposely argue with anyone

[Jan84HJ60]

It's the chat subforum. So we're chatting.

I will answer your questions, give me a little time.

[86bobbedtoy]

It's the chat subforum. So we're chatting.

I will answer your questions, give me a little time.

Since we are chatting.

Why can media. television and politicians say "support black business's"  but in no way could anyone say support white owned business's ??

Is that racist?

Should we let every thug get away with crimes or just minorities?

should we white people start paying reparations via a giant tax?

Should people get free money because of their skin color?

Should certain people be allowed to posses drugs and not get into trouble?

In my business's do I still have the right to refuse service to anyone?

Should we keep talking about past racism so it gets carried on in the future?

Should we brain wash children to believe what the media wants them to?

Why is the media still talking about trump every other minute?

Why is it ok when Biden does it but it wasent when trump did it?

Do you realize we are in a one sided race war being pushed by the media and politicians?
No not a war like we think of war but a broadcasted brainwash that has little to no push back.

[86bobbedtoy]

To be clear, Im not blaming people of color, Im blaming the media ect.  the people of color are being used as puppets, very sad

[Jan84HJ60]

but why do you say "their situation"

A situation where they are not treated equally and have to constantly watch what they say or do, quite differently to a white kid. for whatever circumstances.

[Jan84HJ60]

If you drive around and pick 100 people out and by percentage will blacks have a higher chance of having drugs or stolen property ect ect?
why do black cops pull over more blacks??   mind boggling

did you watch msnbc about the house market black vs white that went around??
Im in the real estate world and kno multiple appraisers first hand, yes it can change, one of my properties appraisals 7 years ago when the market was super low I had a property appraised for 75K 82K and 93K, why did it change???
they all mark it on what they believe it to be worth, and that can change with current comps up and down quickly.
I also bought another property that was appraised at 71K I paid 100K because I really liked it and the county came and re appraised it at 120k and charged me 300 to reappraise it, and now charge me taxes at 120K
my point is changes, don't take a blown out of proportion media puch to serious
they all mark it on what they believe it to be worth, and that can change with current comps up and down quickly

judges see repeat criminals and enhance sentences to try to rehabilitate . no racism just factual truths
if a black judge gives a repeat black offender a longer sentence is he racist?

That's exactly the circular argument  that we need to avoid, if we ever are to solve the problem. If black people are more likely to possess drugs or stolen property as you claim, because their character is worse? Or because the neighborhood? Why is the neighborhood worse, because the schools are shittier? Why is unemployment worse-is it the schools? Why is the neighborhood worse, because jobs are? we can go on endlessly, it's not a trivial problem. But if you bring it down to character, that's called racism.

[Jan84HJ60]

A lot of these are rhetorical questions, but I'll try to answer them anyway.

Why can media. television and politicians say "support black business's"  but in no way could anyone say support white owned business's ?? Is that racist?

Yes it is. For the simple reason that white owned businesses are supported anyway. If you call for support of white owned businesses, you imply to exclude black owned ones. If you call for support of black owned businesses, you do that to make them equal to other businesses, not superior.


Should we let every thug get away with crimes or just minorities?

Rhetorical question, or red herring. Nobody should get away with a crime. but give equal punishment.



should we white people start paying reparations via a giant tax?

That is complicated. Obviously a giant tax is not the answer. Some sort of reparations however should be discussed, considering that pas racism has tons of implication into the present. A good way to start thinking about this is by reading up about the reparations nazi Germany has committed to. Some are effective, some not. Clearly a huge tax and giving out cash is not.


Should people get free money because of their skin color?

Rhetorical question, or red herring, see above.


Should certain people be allowed to posses drugs and not get into trouble?

Like Rush Limbaugh?
The point is not that some people should be allowed to possess drugs and not get in trouble. The point is that black people are multiple times more likely to be sentenced for minor drug possession than white people. Equal treatment is the point.


In my business's do I still have the right to refuse service to anyone?

Not if you do it against a protected class, like race, disability, gender...But if you own a business, you know that.
You can of course refuse service to someone for breaking your business' rules. Like kicking Trump off Twitter.


Should we keep talking about past racism so it gets carried on in the future?

Yes. If you stop remembering the past, you are bound to repeat its mistakes. And why so selective? You oppose getting rid of civil war monuments, since it 'erases the past'. but you want to erase the inconvenient parts of the past?


Should we brain wash children to believe what the media wants them to?

Rhetorical question, or red herring. What is the 'media'? Just MSNBC, because you don't like it, or also Newsmax, OAN, and the biggest of them all, Fox?


Why is the media still talking about trump every other minute?

Because the idiot lose can't shut his retarded mouth and keeps spewing his moronic lies? But I am with you there, he should simply not get any platform anymore.


Why is it ok when Biden does it but it wasent when trump did it?

Be more specific. But my answer would likely be no. Same treatment for both.


Do you realize we are in a one sided race war being pushed by the media and politicians?

The media and politicians always profit from a divided people. Us vs them works much better than trying to come up with solutions.

[Jan84HJ60]

To be clear, Im not blaming people of color, Im blaming the media ect.  the people of color are being used as puppets, very sad

I understand that, and I am in no way trying to say that you are racist-I do not think that at all.

[sirdeuce]

Lets all be honest
All these clowns pushing down our and our childrens throats are the problem.
race issues, gay issues, illiegal trespassers, political BS, wanting drugs legal, biased politicians, crooked judges, ect

I mean look around and smell the coffee folks, were headed straight to a 3rd world country in a hurry
there is no way to stop it, only time will and only after the great fall, its happened time and time in history

That.s been evident for the last 20 years.

[sirdeuce]

Prejudice, bigotry, racism? None of these will ever go away! There will always be someone to stoke the fire. Our society thrives on negativity! It needs that to justify the "positive" actions performed by it. Negativity is a hole that just increases in size with the more positivity fed to it, like acetone to styrofoam. Won't be long 'til our country is divided like the middle east. Newly formed U.S.A. The Untied Sections of Assininnety.

[Gnarly4X]

.... The Untied Sections of Assininnety.

The are people posting here that are already living in "The United Sections of Assininnety" 

Gnarls.

[Jan84HJ60]

Bravo Gnarls, in your superior intelligence and knowledge you almost managed to write a sentence without an error. Almost.

[sirdeuce]

The are people posting here that are already living in "The United Sections of Assininnety" 

Gnarls.

That's Untied, not united.

It's a planned effect. How else can they reinvent a country and it's constitution? [ We have come to a state of such severe unrest that it has become necessary to abandon the old ways to make place for the new order. ]

Now that is scary stuff!

[86bobbedtoy]

thanks for the reply's.
I like this
"media and politicians always profit from a divided people. Us vs them works much better than trying to come up with solutions"
"Nobody should get away with a crime. but give equal punishment"
'But my answer would likely be no. Same treatment for both"

But highly disagree with this
" If you call for support of white owned businesses, you imply to exclude black owned ones"

so are you saying one can be said but the other cant?   do you in any way find that biased or racist?

In the statement how does saying one mean something good but the other bad and racist

[Jan84HJ60]

I'll get back to you on that. I understand it is controversial.
Just enjoying the sunset with a beer in the desert. And it is getting cold fast.

[sirdeuce]

But highly disagree with this


In the statement how does saying one mean something good but the other bad and racist

Self-centered point of view.

[sirdeuce]

YAY! Amazing turtle! 40 points!

[Gnarly4X]

That's Untied, not united.

It's a planned effect. How else can they reinvent a country and it's constitution? [ We have come to a state of such severe unrest that it has become necessary to abandon the old ways to make place for the new order. ]

Now that is scary stuff!

Untied means something was tied and become untied.  In the context of your title it's a strange choice of a word, whatever your intent.

I thought it was a typo, just like your word assinninnety... there is no such word.

The word is asininity, the noun form of asinine.

I naturally thought "Untied" was a typo, and your misspelling of asininity was simply ignorance on your part.

But...I'm a big fan of the 1st Amendment, so whatever you want to post, right or wrong, is still a civil right.

I really like "United Sections of Asininity"  (USA), because it clearly defines a pathetic class for those who believe in the asinine destruction of the United States of America.

Anyone who advocates, promotes, supports, or activity engages in the purposeful destruction of our Constitutional Republic is committing treason, so they are a traitor.  They are my enemy.

Gnarls.

[Gnarly4X]

Self-centered point of view.

Which statement are you referring to? 

Gnarls.

[86bobbedtoy]

So this morning I woke up to one of those news channels I disagee with, I listened to it for a while, never looked at the screen just listened.

A few new questions for any one to voice their opinions.

How are stricter voter laws racist?   Please look up on youtube when crowder asks people of color if the have ID's  comical

They say the right is saying crime rates are up in police defunding cities but say that is not true because there are to many things to consider, they admit crime rates are climbing but choose to make excuses, its simple, are they up or down, not rocket science here folks

Im not gonna say the election was rigged, I believe it is ALWAYS manipulated one way or another, any counter can lie and Im sure a lot always do from each side, but How is Trump still holding what they call "rallies"    They call it "dangerous because it works up the millions of white voters"

[86bobbedtoy]

a few more ??s

should any flag be flewn by citizens in the us? USA, Mexican, Gay, BLM, ect

Should a high schooler be able to wear a Mexican flag over his robe during graduation? if yes? if no?

what if it were a usa flag?
what if it were a rebel flag?

[sirdeuce]

Untied means something was tied and become untied.  In the context of your title it's a strange choice of a word, whatever your intent.

I thought it was a typo, just like your word assinninnety... there is no such word.

The word is asininity, the noun form of asinine.

Untied as a change in united falling apart

Asaninnity as stupid ninnies

I naturally thought "Untied" was a typo, and your misspelling of asininity was simply ignorance on your part.

But...I'm a big fan of the 1st Amendment, so whatever you want to post, right or wrong, is still a civil right.

I really like "United Sections of Asininity"  (USA), because it clearly defines a pathetic class for those who believe in the asinine destruction of the United States of America.

Anyone who advocates, promotes, supports, or activity engages in the purposeful destruction of our Constitutional Republic is committing treason, so they are a traitor.  They are my enemy.

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

Which statement are you referring to? 

Gnarls.

Not any particular statement. It was an answer to the " In the statement how does saying one mean something good but the other bad and racist" bit from 86bobbed.
How can "Support your local White business" be racist but "Support your local Black business" not be.
Self centered point of view.
Think of this. You, being a white person is automatically perceived as a bigot, simply because you are white. The person calling you a bigot because you are white believes itself incapable of being bigotted because it's not white. (hard to put that in there without naming names or gender)
Self centered point of view.

I'm white, hear that crap all the time. White male, the most evil entity in existance.

[Gnarly4X]

...I'm white, hear that crap all the time. White male, the most evil entity in existance.

Humans suffer from endemic immorality – hatred, greed, lying, cheating, jealousy, and murder.

Scientists believe that we are born with a moral compass, and

"Studies show that even before babies can speak or walk, they judge good and bad in the actions of others because they are born with a rudimentary sense of justice."

In other words, we don't have to be taught to know the difference between right and wrong.

So what makes good people do bad things?

What turns people evil and do the most horrific things to a fellow human being?

It appears civil minded Americans are waking up to the fact that our kids are being taught to hate.

Our trust in authority has practically disappeared.  Where is the accountability and punishment for blatant criminals?

It's way past time for patriotic Americans to fight back against the perpetrators of the insanity and evil being forced onto our citizens.

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

Yeah, Gnarls, the world is falling apart.

Crime is glorified. Certain genres of music are so strongly negative and those that are get the ears of our youth. That will just get worse. Along with that some of our activist factions promote criminal activity. I'll keep that short and vague.

Punishment for blatant criminals?? The system won't do anything about criminals if it's run by criminals. We see it every day.

I believe abortion should be legeal 'til the child turns 18 and leaves the family.

Like most people do with their car, it's gotta break completely before anything is done.

[Jan84HJ60]

But highly disagree with this
" If you call for support of white owned businesses, you imply to exclude black owned ones"

so are you saying one can be said but the other cant?   do you in any way find that biased or racist?

In the statement how does saying one mean something good but the other bad and racist

You have to take history into account. 'Buy white' has been used for decades to make sure black business do not prosper. It therefore has a negative association. 'Buy black' never had such a history and was never used systematically to suppress white businesses. That's the difference-the history.

[Jan84HJ60]

should any flag be flewn by citizens in the us? USA, Mexican, Gay, BLM, ect

I just don't care personally. My allegiance to the US does not depend on a symbol like a flag. I can't recall any of you complaining about Trump flags being flown higher than the Stars and Stripes during the boat parades.


Should a high schooler be able to wear a Mexican flag over his robe during graduation? if yes? if no?

Again, I don't really care. Many people immigrated to the USA and still have pride in their country of origin.


what if it were a usa flag?
what if it were a rebel flag?

Even that is not illegal, I think. But again, there is some pretty questionable history associated with it, so whoever flies that flag will have to deal with that association.

[86bobbedtoy]

You have to take history into account. 'Buy white' has been used for decades to make sure black business do not prosper. It therefore has a negative association. 'Buy black' never had such a history and was never used systematically to suppress white businesses. That's the difference-the history.

To me " support black business's is racist, why even say anything?  all lives matter and all business's matter, support all.
There is absolutely no need to say anything period!!

Let me get this straight, you can say support
black owned
Woman owned
Asian owned
Latino owned
Gay owned
trans owned
LGBTQ  owned

but not white owned? what the heck is that?

where is the discrimination there?

None of this BS makes any sense, support who ever you want, when its said it sounds racist wouldn't you agree?
We are doomed as the good ol America as we kno it, Im sure you will say its because it was founded on racism ect,

I do fear we are headed to something bad, its all gotta come to an even lets all just get along.
we "whites" don't push any BS do we? I mean on a normal non white guilt aspect.
I cant stand the white guilt thing, I mean unless you did something racist personally then why any guilt, just flat stupid

To many sissies and not enough men

[Wainiha]

Why should I pay reparations to anyone of of any race, culture, or religion that I HAVE NOT personally wronged.   I AM NOT responsible for past peoples actions.

Most every culture on this planet had slaves at some point in history, there own or others.  NOT RIGHT for sure, but NOT MY FAULT!  I didn't do it.

[Gnarly4X]

should any flag be flewn by citizens in the us? USA, Mexican, Gay, BLM, ect

I just don't care personally. My allegiance to the US does not depend on a symbol like a flag. I can't recall any of you complaining about Trump flags being flown higher than the Stars and Stripes during the boat parades.


Should a high schooler be able to wear a Mexican flag over his robe during graduation? if yes? if no?

Again, I don't really care. Many people immigrated to the USA and still have pride in their country of origin.


what if it were a usa flag?
what if it were a rebel flag?

Even that is not illegal, I think. But again, there is some pretty questionable history associated with it, so whoever flies that flag will have to deal with that association.

American ethos is obvious and historic.

Being an American comes with incredible opportunities, privileges and responsibilities.

As an American citizen you take an oath and pledge allegiance.

The oath and allegiance doesn't give you right to say and do whatever you want.

Our flag is a symbol of the greatest human accomplishments, freedom, and sacrifice of any nation on Earth.

Burning our flag should have a punishment. 

Disgracing our National Anthem and flag in any way should be highly condemned.

Kneeling before our National Anthem in some asinine protest is counter patriotic.

Wearing a Mexican flag during your high school graduation is counter patriotic.

Flying another county's flag on the same flag pole is counter patriotic.

Flying some perverted subculture's flag is counter patriotic.

Flying some historical flag of a past revolution is counter patriotic.

Publicly displaying any flag in the USA, other than a United States of America flag is counter patriotic.

If you do not want to be a patriotic United States of America citizen then get the F out of here!

Gnarls.