Topic: Scary Stuff

[Snowtoy]

Snowtoy…..

I would like to believe that your commentary here, factual rebuttal to an absurd argument by an anti-American moron(s), would be somewhat influential to motivate the ignorant to pull their heads out of their anal cavities and realize the truth.

In my experience, those like Jan84HJ60, who are idealists-optimists, never do, as they are wet wired that way, and no amount of exposure to facts or negative life experiences can change the way they view the world, and can no more be swayed from their beliefs, than a child who believes there is a monster in their closet can be.  The rest are usually just uninformed, or have never been exposed to contrary data to their belief, in the those the hope is simply to get them to argue from a position of facts and not emotions.

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

.... no amount of exposure to facts or negative life experiences can change the way they view the world...  The rest are usually just uninformed, or have never been exposed to contrary data to their belief....

These two conditions or state of the human mind have always baffled me - regarding their view of their reality.

One has to totally reject and ignore the facts of man's history on Earth.  So.... they believe that 6 million Jews didn't die during the rule by Hitler, and 282,000 US and allied solders did not die during the Vietnam War?  Both in the name of Marxism, Socialism, and Communism ruled by brutal dictators.

The second condition... is more plausible, still extremely perplexing for me ... the uniformed and exposure to contrary data.

Even after my research and reading from the people who study this phenomena, it still baffles me.

For those who may be interested, here's a very interesting look at the impact of the media.  It is a long read and the bibliography is more than impressive:

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/amgovernment/chapter/the-impact-of-the-media/

Gnarls.

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

This isn't real scary, but it is incredibly disappointing and painful....

Painful for my loss and painful to admit my stupidity.

I thought I'd share my experience in case my bad experience will prevent someone else a loss of priceless data.

2 days ago I plugged in my backup external hard drive to search something.  It failed to turn on.

I assume it had a catastrophic failure.

It appears I have lost about 21 years of backed up data... everything imaginable!

I was so upset that I didn't get much sleep that night.

I have a 2nd external backup hard drive, but it did not have the amount of data that was on the bigger drive, and the files were only from 2015 and earlier.

Even though the drive was only turned on when I did short bursts of backups or to search on previously backup files, I should have known and been aware of the potential failure.

I did have some recent files backed up in the "cloud", but I did not have my big drive backed up in the cloud.

In computer technology and systems, there is a very important word -- REDUNDANCY!!

So.. I immediately ordered a 2T Seagate external hard drive, and have backed up as many files as I have now from two computers.

I will do another backup to a cloud storage location.

I will buy another external hard drive and use it to do a secondary full back up for redundancy.

Gnarls.

[emsvitil]

2.5" or 3.5" external drive?


I know you can take the 3.5" external drives apart.     What you're left with is a 3.5" sata drive (2.5" maybe  , never took one apart).

What usually fails is the USB / SATA adapter that's part of the external drive.

Once you have the drive apart,   plug drive into a computer....................

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

2.5" or 3.5" external drive?


I know you can take the 3.5" external drives apart.     What you're left with is a 3.5" sata drive (2.5" maybe  , never took one apart).

What usually fails is the USB / SATA adapter that's part of the external drive.

Once you have the drive apart,   plug drive into a computer....................

Hi e...

Here's the drive that failed:   https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/storage/simpletech-redrive

It was purchased about 2015.

I assume it is a 3.5"

I will see if I can contact Fabrik Inc. in San Mateo, CA for any help.

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

Soooo, I just heard about this bit about FaceBook working with the gummint to censor (mis)information on Covid. Hmmmm,  They're after the Constitution all together.


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[Snowtoy]

These two conditions or state of the human mind have always baffled me - regarding their view of their reality.

One has to totally reject and ignore the facts of man's history on Earth.  So.... they believe that 6 million Jews didn't die during the rule by Hitler, and 282,000 US and allied solders did not die during the Vietnam War?  Both in the name of Marxism, Socialism, and Communism ruled by brutal dictators.

They, like the devout, have unquestionable faith in what they believe in, and it is this blind faith that not only allows them to dismiss all contrary facts to their belief, but it is what allows them to justify any and all acts to accomplish their goal, i.e., the ends justify the means.

For these people, this quote by Robert Oxton Bolton, comes to mind, “A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind”.

The second condition... is more plausible, still extremely perplexing for me ... the uniformed and exposure to contrary data.

It just isn't being uninformed, but how the information was presented to them, i.e. as Socialism and not Communism, or that Socialism is all about equality, now equity, and not what it really is, government control of the economy and the mandatory authoritarian government that is needed to control the masses due to having control over the means of production.

[Snowtoy]

Soooo, I just heard about this bit about FaceBook working with the gummint to censor (mis)information on Covid. Hmmmm,  They're after the Constitution all together.


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Yep, direct violation of the 1st Amend.  Guess they have decided that since they are getting away with having Social Media work as their speech controlling proxies, no need to not have direct input as to what speech they now want limited under the the title of "misinformation".

[sirdeuce]

Closest thing I get to social media is maybe 3 sites I go to.
Marlin Crawler
Toyota Minis
MR2 owners
Mostly to see what's going on in the specified community. Too bad that media is killing this type of site. Even here the need for a modicum of restraint is advisable.


I occasionally check out club4ag, but I can't remember my password and most of that community has leaked to FaceBook.

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

..... Even here the need for a modicum of restraint is advisable.

Restrain WHAT?

And... who decides what should be restrained?

How much is a modicum of restraint?

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

Restrain WHAT?

And... who decides what should be restrained?

How much is a modicum of restraint?

Gnarls.

Personal restraint. Just as in any public forum, what you say or do needs a tad bit of restraint. Believe me when I say I use a lot of restraint on what I say here. Even you, Gnarls, use a tad bit of restraint in what you say here.

[Snowtoy]

Closest thing I get to social media is maybe 3 sites I go to.
Marlin Crawler
Toyota Minis
MR2 owners
Mostly to see what's going on in the specified community. Too bad that media is killing this type of site. Even here the need for a modicum of restraint is advisable.


I occasionally check out club4ag, but I can't remember my password and most of that community has leaked to FaceBook.

So far here, the only thing I have seen, is them trying to keep it from devolving into something like Pirate, where every topic, was like their off topic section, except for the "newbie" section.  Though given that Amazon controls something like 95% of internet servers, they could do to this site, or any site, what it wants to, just as they did to Parlor, or at least until they pending lawsuits make their way through the courts.  Fortunately, by Psaki announcing that the Biden Administration is working with/asking Facebook to censor misinformation about wuhan, and advocating that being banned from one, should be a ban from all, the children running the White House just gave Trump, and all the others suing big tech/social/media over censoring speech, the silver bullet needed to deny them from being able to censor any speech moving regardless of their claims.  The Court has ruled that not only can the government not limit speech directly, it cannot compel speech in individuals or entities, and due to the power that governments have, it has deemed that when a government ask someone ort a group to do "X", it is the same as compelling them to do "X"

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

.... Even you, Gnarls, use a tad bit of restraint in what you say here.

Ok, so I read your comment multiple times.  I believe I understand your point.

In this forum and like forums, there should be some personal restraint when posting comments.

Personal restraint meaning diplomacy, tact, and emotional intelligence?

In other words - be civil to and sensitive about the people who will read your post.

We have safe space here for those tenderlings who may be need a modicum of sensitivity so as to not hurt their feelings.

It’s been my experience on public forums since 1999 that the threads where there is a raging debate, with flame throwing participants displaying all the normal ranting and raving language, laced with an occasional well-deserved personal attack, were - by far - THE most informative, incredibly educational, super entertaining, and eye-opening discourse and discussions ever!

I am a huge fan of the 1st Amendment… So regarding personal restraint in this thread. As long as we do not blow up a forum policy with totally unnecessary lewd language or absurdly offensive photos, I appreciate the lessor monitoring of this forum.

Now regarding why personal restraint needs to be completely abandoned.  It is past time when the silent majority better wake up and smell the evil stench permeating our America.

The praxeological studies of morals and ethics clearly indicate there exists a systematic, insidious, deceptive, unabashed, planned, and conscientious effort from the ignorance of individuals to the perverted ideologies of large organizations and entities - where any ethos, pathos and logos elements can be identified - to destroy the eudaimonism of the human race.

Naturally, and unfortunately, any intelligent discussion on the topics of morals and ethics will most likely provoke levels of rational and irrational emotions that will typically go beyond any comprehensive persuasion or mind-altering results.

The immoral and unethical indoctrination and brainwashing activities perpetrated on the very young, misguided, naďve, gullible, and ignorant is pathetically staggering.

The addiction to immoral an unethical behavior is rampant.

Did I use a modicum of restraint?

Gnarls.

[86bobbedtoy]

Ok, so I read your comment multiple times.  I believe I understand your point.

In this forum and like forums, there should be some personal restraint when posting comments.

Personal restraint meaning diplomacy, tact, and emotional intelligence?

In other words - be civil to and sensitive about the people who will read your post.

We have safe space here for those tenderlings who may be need a modicum of sensitivity so as to not hurt their feelings.

It’s been my experience on public forums since 1999 that the threads where there is a raging debate, with flame throwing participants displaying all the normal ranting and raving language, laced with an occasional well-deserved personal attack, were - by far - THE most informative, incredibly educational, super entertaining, and eye-opening discourse and discussions ever!

I am a huge fan of the 1st Amendment… So regarding personal restraint in this thread. As long as we do not blow up a forum policy with totally unnecessary lewd language or absurdly offensive photos, I appreciate the lessor monitoring of this forum.

Now regarding why personal restraint needs to be completely abandoned.  It is past time when the silent majority better wake up and smell the evil stench permeating our America.

The praxeological studies of morals and ethics clearly indicate there exists a systematic, insidious, deceptive, unabashed, planned, and conscientious effort from the ignorance of individuals to the perverted ideologies of large organizations and entities - where any ethos, pathos and logos elements can be identified - to destroy the eudaimonism of the human race.

Naturally, and unfortunately, any intelligent discussion on the topics of morals and ethics will most likely provoke levels of rational and irrational emotions that will typically go beyond any comprehensive persuasion or mind-altering results.

The immoral and unethical indoctrination and brainwashing activities perpetrated on the very young, misguided, naďve, gullible, and ignorant is pathetically staggering.

The addiction to immoral an unethical behavior is rampant.

Did I use a modicum of restraint?

Gnarls.

I think he meant restraint as in you don't wanna wind up on a "list"

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

I think he meant restraint as in you don't wanna wind up on a "list"

Hey 86...

I thought about that.  Textual communications is often difficult to interpret, right?

I'm glad you brought that up.  Again, I assume your comment is referring to "lists" that would be labeling me something and to come after me or cancel me or attempt to take away my civil rights.

The lists would be created as a result of me not having enough personal restraint on a public forum, right?

Now... I have “some expert knowledge” regarding what information the Feds, and probably others in power- Google, Amazon etc, have collected and have access to your personal data and how they collect it.

To the degree that I expose myself most likely could raise red flags and get me on a watch list.

But if some evil person or entity wants to find out about me or anyone who has been on the internet, they can find you.

Right after 911, a business associate's daughter was attending a university and working on her Master's thesis.  The subject apparently was being monitored by our illustrious intelligence community. She was contacted by the FBI, and interrogated. She was quickly dismissed as some kind of terrorist.

I worked for Google and spent lots of time with Google Analytics.  Back then it was mindblowing what information was being mined by big data.

About 6 months ago I discovered a post that I had made here was now readily found with a simple search on Google.

So, if you are correct, and sirdeuce was suggesting be careful what you post, and use some restraint, then yes, it’s something we all should be concerned about.

Gnarls.

[Snowtoy]

The lists would be created as a result of me not having enough personal restraint on a public forum, right?

Not how you say it, but what you say and where you post it, i.e., "Lets burn down the "X" as part of a BLM/Antifa forum, no issue, same post on any website deemed anti-left, yes.  Heck, now they re asking you to report your family, friends and neighbors for extremist views, which is anything the Left opposes, like freedom of speech or choice.

Right after 911, a business associate's daughter was attending a university and working on her Master's thesis.  The subject apparently was being monitored by our illustrious intelligence community. She was contacted by the FBI, and interrogated. She was quickly dismissed as some kind of terrorist.

So much for being secure in her person, home, and her papers from warrantless searches.  I have no issue with the gov. monitoring non-citizens communications w/o a warrant and responding, but they should never be able to respond to a citizens communications without a warrant, regardless of what the citizen is engaged in, and any communications collected prior to obtaining a warrant, shouldn't be used to obtain the warrant.  Living in a free society comes with inherent risks, one of which is LEO's having to wait for a citizen to actually commit/engaging in a criminal act at the time, before they can interact with that citizen, as wanting, planning to commit a crime, is not the same as actually committing a crime, regardless of the threat their thoughts pose to the safety of society.

[sirdeuce]

I think he meant restraint as in you don't wanna wind up on a "list"

One reason for sure. They're listening! So every time I have conversations with certain buds we like to add the "term of the day" randomly in our conversations. Last week it was "pregnant turtle".

I'm all for being able to say what I want, act how I want, etc., but still have a streak of respect for those around me. I get triggered on that 'restraint' thing when I;m standing in line at a movie theater (true story here) and there's a BUNCH of kids in line to see the latest Disney movie and there's a group of morons wearing shirts with with sayings like "F. the Fin' Fers. and images of nude women blazened front and rear. A situation where restraint is needed. When confronted, the idiots wanted to throw obscenities and threats at the parents and just about start a riot. I'm all for the 1st, but there are situations where, for civilities sake, a modicum of restraint should be practiced.

Yes Gnarls, you did show restraint in your above rant. 

[sirdeuce]

  Living in a free society........

Oh no! Another one that believes we live in a free society!

Yeah, and the elephant disappeared.

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

 

Oh no! Another one that believes we live in a free society!

Yeah, and the elephant disappeared.

Again, with textual communications, conceptual semantics is always at play.

I think he meant a relatively "free society".  Like (to use the word used by young people during their social speaking interaction)... where is there a "society", at least today, that has more freedom?

Last year I took an online course from Yale University.  During the course there were videos of the professor teaching the course in a very casual setting with a small group (10 to 20) students. During the video presentation the professor would ask the class for comment. I was taken back by the fact that nearly every single one of those young students used the word "like" so often during their comment it was very distracting to me.  The common use of that word in speech is called a disfluency or dysfluency.  After I completed the course, I posted my review and critique of the course.  I stated for a group of Yale University students NOT to be able converse without a speaking disfluency that is used by 12 year old teeny boppers in California, was very disheartening.

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

Like, I know what you mean! Totally!

[sirdeuce]

Society

           The aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community

The definition alone denotes a modicum of restraint and some reduction in freedoms.

Anyone want to try CIVIL?

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

Like, I know what you mean! Totally!

That made me laugh out loud!!

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

Well, on the subject of irritating speech practices......

Ye olde glottal stop! Because consanants aren't really impor ant.

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

Well, on the subject of irritating speech practices......

Ye olde glottal stop! Because consanants aren't really impor ant.

Well..... yah!  We only have 7 vowels.  And Eutopia gets all 7.

Gnarls.

[Wainiha]

I hear people speaking in text person to person.  The girl said to me "OMG".  Now that makes sense for text I guess.  But speaking it?  It' the same # of syllables!

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

I hear people speaking in text person to person.  The girl said to me "OMG".  Now that makes sense for text I guess.  But speaking it?  It' the same # of syllables!

Hey Wainiha,

Your comment is a very interesting observation.

My current job centers around communications – textual and verbal.  I spend many hours a day very quickly analyzing communications, and then take action based upon my interpretation of the text.

Human communications are the most researched and studied aspects of our human history.

One such branch of study is sociolinguistics – the study of language in relation to social factors, including differences of regional, class, occupational dialect, gender differences, and bilingualism.

The internet and social media now includes: virtual forms of expression, like chat rooms, cellular phone texting, email, etc.

Since any text can be interpreted in multiple ways (called polysemy) the possibility of multiple meanings within a text can obviously be problematic – or commonly misinterpreted.

For example, OMG – acronym for “oh my God”, commonly used in texting, and means - surprise, alarm, or disgust.  Since humor, tone, and intent are typically difficult to express in text (thus the use of Emojis  ), especially in short bursts of abbreviated messages, it’s no wonder there is too often confusion among those who use non-verbal communications.

We see it right here in this forum, right?

To exit from my communications activity at the end of my work day, years ago I created my own acronyms -  “GFTD OMC” (Gone For The Day – On My Cell) – and I often say that when leaving the building for the day.

Gnarls.

[sirdeuce]

Since any text can be interpreted in multiple ways (called polysemy) the possibility of multiple meanings within a text can obviously be problematic – or commonly misinterpreted.

Maybe you could do us all a favor and decipher women (call it femesemy), 'cause we would all like to know what women really mean!

[Wainiha]

Her answer would be: "If don't know what I mean by now, I guess you don't know me as well as I thought."


(...Oh great here we go )

[Wainiha]

SCUBA is a good acronym.  Much shorter than all the words.  Most people might not not know your talking about if you spoke all the words.

[Gnarly4X [OP]]

Maybe you could do us all a favor and decipher women (call it femesemy), 'cause we would all like to know what women really mean!

OMG deucie!!  THAT topic may be THE most studied in the psychology of man-woman relationships!! 

It has been researched and tons of books have been written about it.  I've read a good number, and I have 2 particular books by one author that are my favorite.   

I have my own beliefs based upon multiple relationships, and my age of learning, mostly trial and error.

I don't believe that women are hard to figure out, and terms of a love relationship, a woman's needs are not that complex. 

The success or failure of a love relationship is more responsible for the actions and behavior of the man than it is for the woman. 

I believe men are self-centered and selfish.

The subject is very deep and wide!

That's just my opinion - it may be worthless.

Gnarls.