Author Topic: SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread (Read 322104 times)

zippo · « **Reply #330 on:** May 12, 2015, 09:47:54 PM »

So SqWADoosh foolishly left some third members at my house, So I pilled the side gears. Wonder if he will notice? This first diff has bad bearings.

SqWADoosh · « **Reply #331 on:** May 13, 2015, 05:53:01 AM »

Quote from: zippo on May 12, 2015, 09:47:54 PM

So SqWADoosh foolishly left some third members at my house, So I pilled the side gears. Wonder if he will notice? This first diff has bad bearings.

I appreciate you doing that last night dude. I just placed my order with ECGS to the tune of $1080

they are going to be drop shipping it to Performance Cryo which will likely be another couple hundred dollars. Its going to be one spendy set of thirds when it is all said and done. Hopefully should be worth it though! So looking at the picture of the side gears is it just me or are the two pairs different?

zippo · « **Reply #332 on:** May 13, 2015, 07:03:40 AM »

They are two different ones peer diff. It is how it locks a coupler slides over one.

SqWADoosh · « **Reply #333 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 04:34:22 PM »

I know its been a while since I updated. Its been another case of piling money and handing over my wallet to vendors. Tomorrow and Sunday myself, zippo, and helipilot will be diving into a complete overhaul on my front axle (knuckle rebuild, new RCV axle shafts, new RCV hub gears, Aisin hubs, backing plate eliminators, new elocker 3rd, strip, paint, knuckle gusset, etc.) as well as overhauling my new IFS width rear axle (rebuild, strip, paint, new elocker 3rd, etc.). Time to turn the pile of parts into something

Huge shoutout to Dave Jester at www.jesterfab.com . I just came back from dropping by his shop to pickup my RCV axle shafts and hub gears (for the best price anywhere $612 out the door) and he threw in the knuckle gussets you see above for free. Awesome guy with some great products at great prices. Check him out if you are looking for DIY beadlocks, custom gussets, RCV products, backing plate eliminators, and more.

jangelfire · « **Reply #334 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 04:50:47 PM »

I advise against the backing plate eliminators.i did that to mine and the damn brakes squeal and squeak and drive me nuts! Next time i pull the rotors im putting mine back on.just my .02

SqWADoosh · « **Reply #335 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 04:52:35 PM »

Quote from: jangelfire on Jun 12, 2015, 04:50:47 PM

I advise against the backing plate eliminators.i did that to mine and the damn brakes squeal and squeak and drive me nuts! Next time i pull the rotors im putting mine back on.just my .02

How did getting rid of the backing plates cause this?

jangelfire · « **Reply #336 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 05:06:07 PM »

Little rocks and sand or mud get in there.pisses me off!

SqWADoosh · « **Reply #337 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 05:21:01 PM »

Quote from: jangelfire on Jun 12, 2015, 05:06:07 PM

Little rocks and sand or mud get in there.pisses me off!

Hmmm I thought the whole purpose of these was to prevent that exact thing from happening. Well good looking out. I will throw them on and hold onto my backing plates in case this happens to me as well.

toyodaaddict · « **Reply #338 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 05:40:47 PM »

I like to trim the stock backing plates, leaving the tab that holds the brake line. I've never had an issue running multiple trucks that way for years.

Those RCV's sure look good. I bought my current Longfields about 9 months before the whole TG thing went down, but Ive been tempted to buy some RCV's just for the nice '' C' ya mister '' tribute to Bobby

SqWADoosh · « **Reply #339 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 05:47:48 PM »

Quote from: toyodaaddict on Jun 12, 2015, 05:40:47 PM

I like to trim the stock backing plates, leaving the tab that holds the brake line. I've never had an issue running multiple trucks that way for years.

Those RCV's sure look good. I bought my current Longfields about 9 months before the whole TG thing went down, but Ive been tempted to buy some RCV's just for the nice '' C' ya mister '' tribute to Bobby

Yeah they are pretty damn cool. I've already paid for these eliminators so I'm going to give them a shot.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #340 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 06:43:16 PM »

No complaints with my eliminators. Those axles are damn sexy!!! $Beer Chug\'n$

BigBluePile · « **Reply #341 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 09:54:11 PM »

That's a sweet pile of parts you got there!!! One of these days I'll swap in my longs and hi-pinion elocker in mine. One day.....or year

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dropzone · « **Reply #342 on:** Jun 12, 2015, 11:46:43 PM »

i got rid of my backing plates 6 years ago and have never had any issues.

Like Logan said, nice pile o'parts BBP send me your elocker, my front axle is still stripped while I negotiate with the missus for an ARB, so I guess I can settle for an ELocker

BigBluePile · « **Reply #343 on:** Jun 13, 2015, 01:30:58 PM »

Quote from: dropzone on Jun 12, 2015, 11:46:43 PM

i got rid of my backing plates 6 years ago and have never had any issues.

Like Logan said, nice pile o'parts BBP send me your elocker, my front axle is still stripped while I negotiate with the missus for an ARB, so I guess I can settle for an ELocker

Ya right. Took me over six months to track down that elocker!!!!

You just need to buy the ARB and THEN negotiate......

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Dingman. · « **Reply #344 on:** Jun 13, 2015, 01:44:49 PM »

x2 i always cut the stock backing plates to make "eliminators" i have never had an issue either.

jangelfire · « **Reply #345 on:** Jun 13, 2015, 02:05:15 PM »

Quote from: Dingman. on Jun 13, 2015, 01:44:49 PM

x2 i always cut the stock backing plates to make "eliminators" i have never had an issue either.

Even after gettin her all muddy?

Dingman. · « **Reply #346 on:** Jun 13, 2015, 02:25:37 PM »

Quote from: jangelfire on Jun 13, 2015, 02:05:15 PM

Even after gettin her all muddy?

Never had any squeaks unless it was from my brake pads needing to be replaced.

Even with my vented/drilled rotors i never had any bad effects yet.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #347 on:** Jun 13, 2015, 03:07:48 PM »

I cut my factory ones down as well to save some coin.

Rockcrawlintoy · « **Reply #348 on:** Jun 13, 2015, 09:29:57 PM »

How did the install go?

SqWADoosh · « **Reply #349 on:** Jun 14, 2015, 05:39:39 AM »

Quote from: RockcrawlinJK on Jun 13, 2015, 09:29:57 PM

How did the install go?

Its going take us longer than we thought. Only going to be able to get the rear done this weekend.

Rockcrawlintoy · « **Reply #350 on:** Jun 14, 2015, 07:58:09 AM »

One is better than none. I drove around for like 3 months with no gears locker or front axle shafts before I could get my front gears installed.

SqWADoosh · « **Reply #351 on:** Jun 15, 2015, 02:41:36 PM »

26. ~~TRD ELocker for Rear~~
27. ~~IFS width rear axle swap (1995 4Runner shafts + 88 housing)~~
28. ~~Re-gear rear differential to 5.29~~ (Nitro 5.29 gears via East Coast Gear Supply)
29. ~~Cryo treat 5.29 R&P, side gears, and bearings~~ (Performance Cryogenics)

Worked with HeliPilot and Zippo on my axle overhauls this weekend. We ended up putting in 2 very long days on Saturday and Sunday. In the end our goal of getting the new rear axle built and put in as well as my front was not to be. We did get the rear fully modified, assembled, and bolted into place with the newly built zippo Elocker diff installed. It was a very long and ardous weekend and I can't thank Nate and Jason enough for their help. They are the best friends a guy can have.

Me and Nate convoyed from his house down to Jason's on Saturday morning bright and early. We got stuck into it right away with Jason building the diff while me and Nate worked on the axle housing modifications needed for the 3rd locker to fit. We found out pretty quickly that there was a lot more work involved than we had initially thought. Jason had to fab quite a few custom specialty tools to assemble the diff and we had a hard time drilling the new holes in the housing straight and true. This caused a lot of re-work which really slowed us down. Getting frustrated with his current press after breaking it, Jason decided it was time to get a new press as well. After Nate ran to Harbor Freight and picked up the new press it definitely made things a whole lot easier in the pressing department.

The numerous attempts at getting the studs to line up straight caused the need to weld, flap wheel, power wash, and dry with the torch quite a few times. We sure were lucky that Jason had all those at our disposal or the long weekend would have been an even longer one.

Pulling out my current axle and putting in the new one was done with the always sketchy double hi-lift method. Followed by laying the ass end down on the springs while I finished painting the new axle and the boys went to go get lunch. Jason had to go to a prior commitment around 2 o'clock on Sunday so me and Nate put in the new axle and bolted it up. We then found that the parking brake cables I had purchased would not work without some major modifications so as of right now I am without a parking brake. Me and Nate then bled the brakes and he had to run as well. I set about filling up the new 3rd with oil and putting on the finishing touches. About an hour after Nate left Jason got back and I told him that on my test drive I heard a terrible scraping and I was pretty upset

as I thought it was the differential scraping against the housing (I thought that we hadn't clearanced it enough during our modifications). It turned out that it was the backing plate on the new axle's drum brakes was rubbing against the cover plate of the brakes as the truck drove. That was a huge relief as it was a 10 minute fix rather than the massive undertaking the alternative would have been. I also told Jason that during my test drive I had almost no brakes and that my foot was going to the floor before any braking happened. So me and him set about bleeding the brakes again as well as the proportioning valve. They got a little better but are still only working on the last 1/4 of down travel of the pedal. Jason told me that this is due to the much larger brake cylinders in the much larger drum brakes of my new axle. My poor little 85 brake master cylinder can't keep up causing the pedal issue. So I have an FJ80 1" master that Nate gave me a while back that I will need to put in to solve the issue. I had already planned on doing this upgrade as well as the dual diaphragm brake booster. It has just now been bumped up on the totem pole. So I gingerly drove her home with no problems. I had to give it a little touch up paint this afternoon as we scraped a bit off bolting it up. The end result looks great and I can't wait to put it into action.

Once again huge thanks to Nate and Jason for all their hard work this weekend. You guys are the real deal.

jangelfire · « **Reply #352 on:** Jun 15, 2015, 03:00:54 PM »

Jason Flury?

SqWADoosh · « **Reply #353 on:** Jun 15, 2015, 03:11:29 PM »

Quote from: jangelfire on Jun 15, 2015, 03:00:54 PM

Jason Flury?

Nah that isn't his last name.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #354 on:** Jun 15, 2015, 05:04:10 PM »

never fails.... always takes longer than expected... awesome upgrade, i'd like to wheel with guys someday $Beer Chug\'n$

SqWADoosh · « **Reply #355 on:** Jun 15, 2015, 05:05:57 PM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Jun 15, 2015, 05:04:10 PM

never fails.... always takes longer than expected... awesome upgrade, i'd like to wheel with guys someday $Beer Chug\'n$

Come on up.

Miller · « **Reply #356 on:** Jun 15, 2015, 06:20:44 PM »

Nice build.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #357 on:** Jun 16, 2015, 03:16:04 AM »

Id like to do a mini naches run!

blackdiamond · « **Reply #358 on:** Jun 16, 2015, 11:16:22 AM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Jun 16, 2015, 03:16:04 AM

Id like to do a mini naches run!

What qualifies as a mini Naches run?

H8PVMNT · « **Reply #359 on:** Jun 17, 2015, 07:55:07 AM »

Quote from: jangelfire on Jun 12, 2015, 04:50:47 PM

I advise against the backing plate eliminators.i did that to mine and the damn brakes squeal and squeak and drive me nuts! Next time i pull the rotors im putting mine back on.just my .02

I second that. I did the backing plate elimination when I originally did my SAS and hated it. It's probably fine it you live in a dry clean climate but it gave me problems for snow wheeling when chunks of concrete like mud/ice freeze on the rotors and when you start moving again, horrible ker-pow!. Somehow the backing plates keep your rotors way cleaner. We have miles of gravel here and I got the gritty scraping nasty itchies without the backing plates. Backing plates rule.

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