87 SAS build up- new rig

[87hillbillyoter]

ill do that for sure, didnt know that. the top truss was only 25 bucks so i figured, why not. ill check out tgs trusses for sure

[87hillbillyoter]

here are some more pics

painting stuff











im assuming this is an open diff? never seen the inside of one before





i also couldnt get the rotor off the pass. side hub, it is different from the drivers hub. The drivers has 8 bolts holding the rotor in:



and the pass. had two bolts, and the rest were studs. do i have to take these studs out or..?

[RockRescue]

Someone  put a 79-80 hub and rotor on there    .  you have a pre 80 on 1 side and a 81-85 on the other

[Sparkplug]

Someone  put a 79-80 hub and rotor on there    .  you have a pre 80 on 1 side and a 81-85 on the other

yup, time for ifs hubs

Yeh, lots of people on pirate, and on her, believe the longer top truss actually makes them bend easier, since 9 out of 10 times they bend at the knuckle balls. Either way I swear everytime ive worked on any axle thats been welded on by a newb or someone, it is so damn hard to get the long side axle in, so make sure u weld for short bursts, doesnt need much to hold it on there and do its job. It hasnt been proevn that its the trusses, cud just be the paper thin mini housings.

Im diggin the knuckle paint, always was a fan of painting those

edit; yes thats a open dif

[RockRescue]

you could still use those but you would have to buy a 79-80 fj rotor and then a 81-85 fj rotor .    But  since you have IFS now  just  use your ifs hubs

[87hillbillyoter]

what all do i need for ifs hubs?

[Sparkplug]

depends. Really, all u need is the ifs hubs, 2 fj60 rotors, 12 fj60 wheel studs, and a 5/8 drill bit, 4 5/8 2 inch grade 8 bolts, 4 5/8th fine thread nylock nuts.

Remove sa hub toss it aside, grab ifs hub, unbolt rotor, smack off, smack out studs, put on fj60 rotor, smack longer fj60 studs thru to hold on rotor to hub, drill knuckle and caliper ears to 5/8th, its easy, hand drill, 2 min whole job. grind caliper 1/8th inch inside to fit over rotor, slide over rotor, bolt the caliper on with bolts and nylock washer. Bam looks like this with no spacers



if need more detail can pm me

[Zs Confederate Toy]

Lookin good. I like all of the painted stuff, especially the knuckles. Its gonna look great up under there.

[87hillbillyoter]

alright, thanks spark but i ordered skys kit to do it. And thanks Z's

Heres what i just ordered


Toy-Sas-004
TOY-FWS-001 SHIPPING GROUNDA
TOYOTA COMPLETE FRONT SAS CONVERSION USING 5' FRONT SPRINGS , STAGE 6 HS KIT, AXLE TRUSS, WHEEL SPACERS, BRAKELINE KIT-PROCOMP, SAS HANGER, FRAME SLEAVES-JIGS-BUSHING-BOOMERANG SHACKLES, SHOCK HOOPS, SHOCKS-UBOLTFLIP, RING GEAR GUARD, FJ-60 ROTORS, KNUCKLE REBUILD KIT.

NO KNUCKLE REBUILD KIT, ROTORS, SPRINGS, WHEEL SPACERS-$775.00

TOYOTA WIDE AXLE KIT, USES IFS WHEEL HUBS. KIT INCLUDES 2 SPACERS, 12LHAC, 2 SEAL.-$219.00

(SHIPPING WEIGHT: 20 lbs) GROUND SHIPPING UP TO 10 DAYS MINIMUM CHARGE APPLIES $8-$156.00


TOTAL: $1,150- which isnt bad at all

[RockRescue]

?  so  you got a SAS kit  with no springs ?  and you still need rotors ? and a knuckel rebuild kit ?  am i reading that right ?

[91 ex-cab]

?  so  you got a SAS kit  with no springs ?  and you still need rotors ? and a knuckel rebuild kit ?  am i reading that right ?

He is getting springs from a buddy, not sure about the rotors or knuckle rebuild though.

[87hillbillyoter]

?  so  you got a SAS kit  with no springs ?  and you still need rotors ? and a knuckel rebuild kit ?  am i reading that right ?

getting springs from a buddy, and if you go back a page-

Products:
Qty   Product   SKU   Price   Total
1×   Front Axle Service Kit   MCAX-1531   $179.00   $179.00
2×   Standard Vented Rotor   MCBR-121   $39.00   $78.00
1×   Heavy Duty Pinion Seal   MCSE-311   $14.99   $14.99
1×   Upper Axle Reinforcement Gusset-Solid   MCAR-531   $25.00   $25.00
Subtotal:   $296.99
FedEx 2nd Day:   $40.00
Subtotal excluding taxes:   $336.99
California Sales Tax:   $23.68
Total:   $360.67

i thought i was going a different route for all the parts, thats why i ordered these from marlin.

[RockRescue]

You may end up haveing to move your steering box forward so you mite need to get a box mount as well .

[87hillbillyoter]

yea, i actually called marlin earlier today and left a message to see if my order had shipped, and if not if they could throw a mount kit in there

[91 ex-cab]

If they don't get one throw in there for you, you should check out the wfo one.
http://www.wfoconcepts.com/pr/Toyota-IFS-Box-Mount-Kit/3163/3195/3602

[RockRescue]

that wfo is just a trail-g mount

[91 ex-cab]

that wfo is just a trail-g mount

Uh no it's not. Yes it's similar, but you're really gonna tell me they all aren't similar in design. Marlin wants $55, Tg wants $42, and wfo $40, and I have never heard of a problem with any of them.

[ninja turtle]

Uh no it's not.

uh ya it is.

[RockRescue]

UH  yes it is   and yes i am really going to tell you that it is.  Even WFO tells you that it is a T-G product .  I never said it would fail or 1 is better than another . 

[91 ex-cab]

UH  yes it is   and yes i am really going to tell you that it is.  Even WFO tells you that it is a T-G product .  I never said it would fail or 1 is better than another . 

Ok yes it is. I just compared the pictures.

[bigarms23]

also try trent fab in reno they can cut you out one for the same price or cheaper than the one marlin sells

[87hillbillyoter]

haha well it dont matter yall, the good news is marlin is going to throw one in there. but the bad news is, they are out of stock on the axle rebuild kit, and will be for another 3 weeks . so im going to find another place that sells rebuild kits and git this done! just got an email from Skys and my stuff will be here monday!

[87hillbillyoter]

so today was mostly a good day, i got all my parts. but i was in a rush and i wanted to get the rebuild started, and i screwed up my axle seals. now i had to order new ones and im super pissed, i wanted this to be built by tomorrow. oh well

[Zs Confederate Toy]

I always use a scrap 2x4 to buffer and coax them in more evenly

[87hillbillyoter]

i was using that socket in the bottom right of the second pic. its the same size but for some reason i just didnt see they were going in unevenly. it was already too late when i did

[Zs Confederate Toy]

That works just as good. Id be lyin if I said that I hadnt done that before. Its a PITA

[RockRescue]

get some MC axle seals  also that front hanger  you should weld a piece into the bottom .  i do not like those hangers  they get smashed up pretty easy

[87hillbillyoter]

i ordered em from skys, they are marlins seals. marlin is slow on shipping though. i dont think they have shipped what i ordered a week ago

[Sparkplug]

get some MC axle seals  also that front hanger  you should weld a piece into the bottom .  i do not like those hangers  they get smashed up pretty easy

x2, weld it up on the bottom, ive seen quite a few of those bent also

[RockRescue]

hmm   my MC axle seals look alot differnet than yours