Author Topic: blown up crawl box help?!?!? (Read 4020 times)

tanabuse · « **on:** Dec 30, 2009, 10:42:30 PM »

well i took my truck out for its major break in run. I installed my cralw box with a buddy it sounded fine out of truck but when i first used it it whined like a mother. in dubble low. and when no load but movment of the case driveing two wheel drive i hurd light grinding dident thinking much of it

. Paying more attention to the what the gears sounded like diveing in dubble low and two wheel. it sounded like one of those tractors that whine when they go down the road. with some talking to of a buddy of mine we had came to that may be it was the gears some cases whine and some dont so i ran it. so i want out on its break in run and my cralw box blew out 3/4 throughout the day it happend when i was in third gear going down a slight hill i let off the gas in singal case 4 low 2wheel. At about 3500 it made a loud whineing and the a bang and grinding and thats it. all stop no power any gear . and talking for a min i tried to go no power to wheels shift out into high range in my cralw box and i had power and i proceeded to wheel the the rest of the day i had droven to where i was wheeling about 25 miles away from my house so i had to get home so with that i took it easy but had to wheel to get out so but it was wird the 4 low gear main bareing faild and caused the gear to be free to move around so when i was wheeling out and driveing home the whole time the gear kept floating around and got all f*$#@ up in there the cralw adptor got messed up a bit to i was wondering if i could post a pix check it out

superyota · « **Reply #1 on:** Dec 31, 2009, 10:04:13 AM »

did you top off the crawl box up through the top where the shifter mounts? sounds like it was running dry

tanabuse · « **Reply #2 on:** Jan 01, 2010, 08:47:05 AM »

Quote from: superyota on Dec 31, 2009, 10:04:13 AM

did you top off the crawl box up through the top where the shifter mounts? sounds like it was running dry

no im sure it had enuf oil in it

superyota · « **Reply #3 on:** Jan 01, 2010, 12:33:10 PM »

they don't have oil in them, you are supposed to pull the check plug on the rear case, fill through the front case(crawl box), and wait for it to fill. if you didn't fill through the shifter in the crawl box, you probably ran it low and burned it up. just my

myyota · « **Reply #4 on:** Jan 01, 2010, 01:22:00 PM »

They don`t come with gear oil in them, so you probably burned up the bearings and gears. So now you have an expensive paper weight.

Cheesemaker · « **Reply #5 on:** Jan 01, 2010, 01:28:43 PM »

First thing to do is get some pics of it. And post them here in your post. Good pics, not crappy ones.
And then call Marlin and talk to those guys there. They can help diagnose what happened.

That will be your best option at this point! Sometimes its hard to get them to reply to the forum, Brendon does try to check the forum, but it usually is on his own time.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #6 on:** Jan 01, 2010, 05:57:38 PM »

Quote from: Cheesemaker on Jan 01, 2010, 01:28:43 PM

First thing to do is get some pics of it. And post them here in your post. Good pics, not crappy ones.
And then call Marlin and talk to those guys there. They can help diagnose what happened.

That will be your best option at this point! Sometimes its hard to get them to reply to the forum, Brendon does try to check the forum, but it usually is on his own time.

that IS assuming it was a Marlin adapter and not some "imitation"

tanabuse · « **Reply #7 on:** Jan 01, 2010, 07:28:14 PM »

its not some trail gear

butt i have all the pixs i just dont know how to post them

Cheesemaker · « **Reply #8 on:** Jan 01, 2010, 08:17:44 PM »

You are gonna need at least 12 posts. And sign up for Photobucket and download them there and link them to a post. Or use [>] Additional Options.... to the lower left of the post box. Your pics will have to be 140KB or smaller.

superyota · « **Reply #9 on:** Jan 01, 2010, 10:21:19 PM »

keep posted. i'm interested to see what it ends up being

Phazertwo · « **Reply #10 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 09:29:49 AM »

Just photo bucket it. I wanna see what happened.

My bet is low oil!

tanabuse · « **Reply #11 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 09:45:59 AM »

no it was a bad baring it was so bad it had had major piting on the iner race

tanabuse · « **Reply #12 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 09:46:49 AM »

here is link to pixs http://s964.photobucket.com/albums/ae126/yota_01/

Phazertwo · « **Reply #13 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 09:54:41 AM »

Good pics! It was run low on oil for sure, may not have been you, but thats about the only way to kill thos bearings.

Looks like you need a new case...

PZ

tanabuse · « **Reply #14 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 09:58:43 AM »

i got the case is my mc adptor shot i need to know if i need to buy a new one

tanabuse · « **Reply #15 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:03:09 AM »

it was the main roller bareing it when sounded like light pebels grinding look at the race in pix 3rd row las pix look at the race it is pitted like a mother

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #16 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:08:05 AM »

you filled the rear case with oil and went wheeling right

Phazertwo · « **Reply #17 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:15:09 AM »

I cannot tell which pic is of the MC adapter...

PZ

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #18 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:17:04 AM »

whats the number on the bottom of the adapter?/ need better pics of it to know what damage was done to it

tanabuse · « **Reply #19 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:26:44 AM »

did you not see the pixs dam man pesistent no they had oil in them and hey maybe you are party right i had used the wrong gasget maker so some might have leaked out and that my have ben part of why this bareing failed but i think the main cause for failuer here was that this bareing just needed replaced it was bad and overused.the bareing roller race blew but from what i can tell that bareing blew firse allowing the gear to wander around and cause the needel bareing to fail but and the gear to strip. i took out a lot when i removed the cases. the main roler bareing was bad can you not see that from the pixs in the cralw box i put in was bad dident know it at the time

tanabuse · « **Reply #20 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:27:13 AM »

partly*

tanabuse · « **Reply #21 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:28:43 AM »

will get # on box asap its at a buddys house right now

tanabuse · « **Reply #22 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:29:47 AM »

2nd row 2nd pix is the adaptor

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #23 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:33:33 AM »

Quote from: tanabuse on Jan 02, 2010, 10:26:44 AM

did you not see the pics dam man pesistent no they had oil in them and hey maybe you are party right i had used the wrong gasget maker so some might have leaked out and that my have ben part of why this bareing failed but i think the main cause for failuer here was that this bareing just needed replaced it was bad and overused.the bareing roller race blew but from what i can tell that bareing blew firse allowing the gear to wander around and cause the needel bareing to fail but and the gear to strip. i took out a lot when i removed the cases. the main roler bareing was bad can you not see that from the pixs in the cralw box i put in was bad dident know it at the time

theres a really good reason i asked that question, because the oil will not run thru to the front bearing before it gets hot

unless you dumped 1 quart of gear oil in the top of the front crawl box it didnt have enough oil

was this a second hand crawlbox??

again wheres the pictures of the adapter??

Phazertwo · « **Reply #24 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:34:35 AM »

Quote from: tanabuse on Jan 02, 2010, 10:26:44 AM

did you not see the pixs dam man pesistent no they had oil in them and hey maybe you are party right i had used the wrong gasget maker so some might have leaked out and that my have ben part of why this bareing failed but i think the main cause for failuer here was that this bareing just needed replaced it was bad and overused.the bareing roller race blew but from what i can tell that bareing blew firse allowing the gear to wander around and cause the needel bareing to fail but and the gear to strip. i took out a lot when i removed the cases. the main roler bareing was bad can you not see that from the pixs in the cralw box i put in was bad dident know it at the time

Easy on the defense there dude. The thing was run low on oil, and depending on how low, that could have been done in about 30 miles. It doesn't mean that you ran it low on oil, just means that it happened.

I have a wide screen monitor so they are not the same rows for me. The second row second pic is gear.

I am guessing that this one is the adapter?

PZ

tanabuse · « **Reply #25 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:37:01 AM »

yes and yes it was a second hand

Phazertwo · « **Reply #26 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:37:34 AM »

Quote from: 79coyotefrg on Jan 02, 2010, 10:33:33 AM

theres a really good reason i asked that question, because the oil will not run thru to the front bearing before it gets hot

unless you dumped 1 quart of gear oil in the top of the front crawl box it didnt have enough oil

was this a second hand crawlbox??

again wheres the pictures of the adapter??

I agree. One qt through the shifter, only way to KNOW that the oil got in there!

PZ

Phazertwo · « **Reply #27 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:38:21 AM »

Quote from: tanabuse on Jan 02, 2010, 10:37:01 AM

yes and yes it was a second hand

That pic does not give us enough to go on. If I HAD to judge from just the pic, I would say run it.

PZ

tanabuse · « **Reply #28 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:45:44 AM »

sorry guys im not trying to be angry here im just pissed that i have no rig out 2 to drive at all and ive ben down for about 2 weeks now and i just put this

together like a month ago and it blew up so im sorry guys im an

im just a little frustraited cause i got two trucks that are broke down. i just need a

and a running truck lol

Phazertwo · « **Reply #29 on:** Jan 02, 2010, 10:52:21 AM »

$Beer Chug\'n$ Its all good man! I have done the same thing before!

Get us some better pics, and we can help you out some more!

Than start a build thread so we can see your junk!

PZ

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