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Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« on: Mar 07, 2008, 07:49:37 PM »

 Time for an engine overhaul and a new radiator, So what should I go with, a stocker, 3 core , aluminum......  :dunno:
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #1 on: Mar 07, 2008, 07:50:21 PM »
3 row, quick and easy and more capacity....
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #2 on: Mar 07, 2008, 10:34:35 PM »
NO! Mr. 85efi doesn't know what hes talking about. You want a......





lol ya definitely go with the three row, with a electric fan!
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #3 on: Mar 07, 2008, 10:52:40 PM »
3 row aluminum :bowdown:  I swapped a 3 row from an 86 auto truck into my first gen, but not after "massaging" the lower corners a bit so I could actually close the hood!  I don't have enough room to install the shroud though.
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #4 on: Mar 07, 2008, 11:20:52 PM »
 Where's the best source for a quality aluminum 3 row?
I read in a couple places that people had trouble had trouble w/ the 3 row boiling out of the overflow constantly. Is this a problem? it sounds really annoying.
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #5 on: Mar 08, 2008, 12:44:28 AM »
Get one for the turbo model.  Just have to plug off the return port in the top of the rad.   
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #6 on: Mar 08, 2008, 06:02:39 AM »
Griffin radiators or  Be Cool both will build you any thing you want may be a little expensive but worth is to protect your investment.  give them a call and send them the specs on the radiator they will hook you up. 
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #7 on: Mar 08, 2008, 09:26:20 AM »
I went with a 3 core from www.radiatorbarn.com it was $111 to my door in 2 days.  Been a good radiator for the last couple years. 8)
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #8 on: Mar 08, 2008, 10:18:36 PM »

I read in a couple places that people had trouble had trouble w/ the 3 row boiling out of the overflow constantly. Is this a problem? it sounds really annoying.

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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #9 on: Mar 09, 2008, 10:26:26 AM »
I have a 3 row and never had a problem, well except for the time i noticed some steam and popped my hood to notice the cap was barely touching the hood and worked its way off, i took a sledge and whacked the hood a couple good ones  :_order: and its been fine ever since
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #10 on: Mar 09, 2008, 11:16:14 AM »
Where's the best source for a quality aluminum 3 row?
I read in a couple places that people had trouble had trouble w/ the 3 row boiling out of the overflow constantly. Is this a problem? it sounds really annoying.
only if they had a blowed headgasket
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #11 on: Mar 10, 2008, 12:03:42 AM »
Where's the best source for a quality aluminum 3 row?

Seems like I spotted somebody selling aluminum 3 row toy radiators recently for around $150 :headscratch:
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #12 on: Mar 10, 2008, 12:52:35 AM »
 E-bay? Saw some there for a good deal, I'll have to inquire about the country of origin though. I would like to avoid china crap, as difficult as that is.
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #13 on: Mar 10, 2008, 05:48:39 PM »
NO! Mr. 85efi doesn't know what hes talking about. You want a......

   




lol ya definitely go with the three row, with a electric fan!

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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #14 on: Mar 10, 2008, 10:31:11 PM »
yeah i love my electric fan its the shizz
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #15 on: Mar 10, 2008, 11:39:38 PM »
You guys haven't had an electric fan fail out on the trail yet... Once it happens you'll be changing your tune....  ;)
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #16 on: Mar 11, 2008, 12:19:04 AM »
if its set up right, why would it cut out?
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #17 on: Mar 11, 2008, 12:23:39 AM »
Ive had the magnets come unglued on flexalite fan motors a couple times, brushes hang up, etc etc.  Its just simple to use the stock yota clutch fan.  Not bling bling but my junk stays cool. 8)
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #18 on: Mar 11, 2008, 07:18:40 AM »
ive been running one for 5 years, and it has never let me down, and my truck gets wheeled like a mother $%$%#%
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #19 on: Mar 11, 2008, 07:25:39 AM »
Ive had the magnets come unglued on flexalite fan motors a couple times, brushes hang up, etc etc.  Its just simple to use the stock yota clutch fan.  Not bling bling but my junk stays cool. 8)
Im with white trash on this one.... I used a stock radiator when I rebuilt mine and stock fan.....I'm a big proponent of the KISS theory...keep it stock stupid. (I just made that up btw) If it works for the toyota engineers, it works for me.
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #20 on: Mar 11, 2008, 09:27:07 AM »
Ya dtb i see what your saying, but at the same time, the majority of our trucks were made over 20 years ago. Technology and Ingenuity has come along way. White Trash probably just got a bad fan, replaced it, then got another bad fan. The 2nd fan turned out bad so he gave up. Ya know clutch fans can and do go out all the time. Its kinda funny how you said "KISS"... "keep it stock stupid" so your suspension is stock? your tires are stock? your gears, tranny, t-case, bed, interior, all stock. Do you have a 235x55r15 stock tire under your bed? I don't think so, people do motor swaps, lifts, tires, motor upgrades etc, etc all the time. You and I would not be talking right now if Mr. Marlin wouldn't have been experimental on Toyota's.

I have a small example. I have gone through 3-4 alternators form auto zone. I can't not run an alternator. But what can ya do, just keep tearin it out. I probably would try a different alternator but hey, they have life time warrentee. Can't beat that with a stick. I finally ended up with a good one, well I hope. I have had it for about 6mo. now.
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #21 on: Mar 11, 2008, 09:39:29 AM »
Just because technology has progressed in the eye's of some doesn't mean it has progressed in actual usage by some.  Electric fans have their place but having one fail driving down the road isn't a big deal.  Losing one 30 miles from civilization is another deal all together.


The fans that died on me were both stock fans and flexalite universal fans.  Lost the magnets on a couple of them and the fan blade broke on a black magic fan.  I've had factory electric fans die as well.  Yes, having a junkyard electric fan fail on you should be expected considering its age and usage but it still sucks. 

The only advantage to an electric fan is less drag on the engine so it revs quicker.  You are still using amperage so the alternator has to drag the engine down a bit when the fan is running. 


I'm just waiting for my factory 94 alternator to die so I have an excuse to put a 140 amp chevy alternator on there.  I'd never waste money on autozone crap.  My wife used to manage one and she loves there parts but I won't go in the store, I feel dirty when I walk through the doors... :hahaha:
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #22 on: Mar 11, 2008, 09:46:58 AM »
Ya dtb i see what your saying, but at the same time, the majority of our trucks were made over 20 years ago. Technology and Ingenuity has come along way. White Trash probably just got a bad fan, replaced it, then got another bad fan. The 2nd fan turned out bad so he gave up. Ya know clutch fans can and do go out all the time. Its kinda funny how you said "KISS"... "keep it stock stupid" so your suspension is stock? your tires are stock? your gears, tranny, t-case, bed, interior, all stock. Do you have a 235x55r15 stock tire under your bed? I don't think so, people do motor swaps, lifts, tires, motor upgrades etc, etc all the time. You and I would not be talking right now if Mr. Marlin wouldn't have been experimental on Toyota's.

I have a small example. I have gone through 3-4 alternators form auto zone. I can't not run an alternator. But what can ya do, just keep tearin it out. I probably would try a different alternator but hey, they have life time warrentee. Can't beat that with a stick. I finally ended up with a good one, well I hope. I have had it for about 6mo. now.
I guess I meant stuff that keeps my truck going down the trail....like engine components (alternators, ignition, fans, starters, stuff like that) I try to keep that kinda stuff as close to stock as I can. I trust the Toyota engineers. The alternator example you used is exactly why I do this. I  dont like replacing things 4 or 5 times (with a NEW part)when I can throw in a USED toyota part and expect better results. I wouldnt ever run (or recommend) an autozone anything in my truck... and yes, my suspension, tires and drivetrain are all altered  :yupyup:


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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #23 on: Mar 11, 2008, 10:43:27 AM »
I guess it is all based on experience!  :biggthumpup: I dont like auto zone either. But I have a lifetime so I used it. 4-5 times was an exageration but anyway. I was broke and thats what I got. I am not a big fan of autozone either but sometimes what can ya do...

I think this turned into a bash on autozone...

anyway sorry guys back to your regular schedualed programing!

Try a stock three row with an electric fan, its cheap and if you dont like it you can change it... There are many ways you can do things just whatever works best for your app.
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #24 on: Mar 11, 2008, 04:56:17 PM »
i put a three row in my 79. the 2 core had rotted out. the 3 row was free. first time i couldn't shut the hood. cross brace's kept hitting the radiator. made some mounts to lower it and discovered the bottom of the radiator would then be lower than the frame. bad idea. i then set the radiator back 3/8 inch with spacers and it would then clear the hood. i cut the bottom of my 79 shroud and slipped it around the fan. it's tight but cools good. I'd go electric but $250 for a fan is to much.

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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #25 on: Mar 12, 2008, 07:25:07 AM »
i got my electric fan off of a newer chevy truck at the junkyard for something like $20
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #26 on: Mar 12, 2008, 07:27:32 AM »
then i got a piece of sheetmetal that covers the entire radiator, and cut out a hole mounted a fan, and put a thermostat on it, i think i have like $50 invested, and my fan is super efficient i think its worth a shot if you can do it for that cheap, and you will always have your stock parts leftover if you dont like it
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #27 on: Mar 12, 2008, 01:04:33 PM »
newer chevy truck fan? what years? next time i run down to the junk yard i'll take a look. i'm on the coast and i don't even need a fan most of the year. i'd probably get better mpg.. if i could get my engine temp above 160'f.

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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #28 on: Mar 12, 2008, 10:07:07 PM »
dont quote me on this but I believe any 16 inch electric fan would probably work?
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Re: Rebuilt 22RE, which radiator?
« Reply #29 on: Mar 12, 2008, 10:19:50 PM »
I think Cody is close, just measure your radiator and try to get as much fan as possible, the years of truck doesnt matter, its just the newer the part the longer the life you can expect
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