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Nope. This is a "hot topic" in the US here lately I find the dicussion of it informative as to the views of the board.Last I checked you (Infernal Jeep) had not been elected as the official representative of the hispanic culture to the US. You repeatedly say that you are done with this topic yet you keep posting to it. Interesting.Its really a simple matter. If you dont like the subject, dont read it. You dont see me complaining about the bible verse thread do you? Even though Im not a bible thumper and I dont care to read about that subject matter I dont complain about it because I simply do not read it.
Press one for English, Press two for Spanish......Well where's the "Press 3 so we can teach you how to learn ENGLISH" option?!
So Mike,what about Vietnamese,Korean,Sirian,all those other languages?.That's what I'm trying to get @...It's that eveytime someone says Illegal,everyone automatically looks at Hispanics.
Why do illegal immigrants need drivers licenses?To run from La Migra?
Humor my friend.Maybe you don't think any harm comes from Illegals occupying this country.Maybe you don't think you are directly affected by their presence.Do you have children in overcrowded schools? Do you have hospitals on the verge of collapse? Do you have police officers being shot and killed by documented gang members here illegally?Do you try to get a better job, but were denied because you didn't speak Spanish? Do you pay absorbedent health insurance premiums, while uninsured illegals get free health care? Are you a citizen? Are you a taxpayer? Then you are affected. You may not realize it, but it affects you and every taxpaying citizen in this country.The point of my opinion is basic, and directly related to the topic. Illegal immigrants are here by breaking the law. Stop catering to law breakers.That includes the companies that employ them.It's simple economics for both parties. They come here for a better life and to make more money than it's possible to make in their country.We hire them because they'll work for less then we are willing to work for.However, as a taxpayer, I'm fed up with the burden placed on the system by those that benefit from it without contributing to it.As a businessman, I'm fed up with the system that turns a blind eye to the underground economy, but demands that I have unemployment, disability, workers comp, fed and state taxes, etc. to be legitimate.This overhead keeps me from competing with companies in the same business who employ undocumented workers. I can't both compete and maintain a legitimate status.Should I join the ranks and hire illegals?I'm sorry, but I refuse to risk it. I chose to follow the law.These companies do not pay into the system. The workers do not contribute. The money they make goes out of the country. I don't know what it is, but I have read it estimated at billions of dollars.We are being invaded and robbed while being asked to feel sorry for them.
How many mexicans do crimes and go running for the border. -
Yota on 40's... In response to your reply to cheesemaker, you're right. When the discussion turns to Illegal Immigration, to a large extent you are talking about Mexicans.There is a huge problem in this country with people from Mexico putting a drain on our economy.That's not ignorant, that's informed. As far as your reply to my last post...I NEVER said Hispanics. And I NEVER singled out one race as the only ones committing crimes.You're right again about all of us being immigrants, I said so in my first post.I'm of Scots-Irish descent, my ancestors learned English.My wifes family is German, her ancestors learned English.My neighbor is Vietnamese, They speak English.French, German, Vietnamese, Chinese, Russian. None of these languages are printed on my utility bill. None of these languages are on phone messages.Because all of these ethnic groups learned the language, or were left in the dust.This is not an attack on the Hispanic Community, or you personally. I haven't responded in kind to your personal attack on my level of intelligence or sense of humor.I would appreciate an intelligent discussion of the issue. If you insist on making it personal, I must refuse to respond.
What in the He** are these idiots in Sacramento thinking. The guy who wrote this legislation has been trying for **8 YEARS** Doesn't that tell you IT'S A BAD IDEA! Why would a state give any "state sanctioned" form of ID to an illegal alien? They don't belong here in the first place. This is a bad slippery slope, that won't end. Who's the dumba$$ who thinks any of them will really apply for it anyway? They know they would be deported as soon as they filled out the application, and they'd have to cross the river again. This is just plain stupidity if you ask me. As soon as they get the "right" to drive, they'll be demanding other "rights" as well, such as food stamps, welfare, work-comp, FHA home loans.Proponents state it will make them take tests, and have insurance...Yea right! A huge percentage of people who can leagally get drivers licenses don't have insurance now, so what makes them think these people will. And taking a test to drive...Whoopeee. Look at all the idiots who are already on the road. [sarcasm: on] This would certainly help I'm sure. [sarcasm: off]I wish someone in Sacramento would figure this out. What a waste of time, energy and money.Ok, I'm done ranting now. Erik
like I said ,no offense though. cheers
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that's funnyeso es divertidoc'est drôledas ist lustigquello è divertenteisso é engraçadograppig datαυτός αστείοςsorry for the asian on the board I coudln't translate it, BigMike maybe
As I recall, driving is a PRIVILEGE, and not a right. I think the logic behind granting them driver's licenses is faulty. We should not be providing them with any services or special benefits when they are not in the country legally. If they can go through the process and get temporary visa to be here that I think the services should be available to them as they need it.
Why don't we teach the lazy Americans who abuse the system spanish, then put them in the packing sheds next to workers so they'll get off the system. Everyone else pales in comparison to the lazy citizens who have spent a lifetime on a government meal ticket.If they squawk, take their license away along with the illegals and send them back to their nation on origin. Who cares how many generations they've been here.
Why don't we teach the lazy Americans who abuse the system spanish, then put them in the packing sheds next to workers so they'll get off the system. Everyone else pales in comparison to the lazy citizens who have spent a lifetime on a government meal ticket.If they squawk, take their license away along with the illegals and send them back to their nation of origin. Who cares how many generations they've been here.
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