Hydro Assist:box and pump mods

Started by freds40, April 17, 2005, 03:33:32 PM

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Sparkplug

if you tapped the threads all the way, then it wont get tight until it goes all the way. You should not have tapped them all the way down, I did prob 3 solid threads with a half thread on top and bottom, i didnt use tq wrench but i imagine around 45 ft lbs.
2008 TRD 4x4 Double Cab Tacoma
1994 12 valve 5 speed 4x4 single cab dodge 2500
1986 22re 5speed 3link 4runner (the beater)
1982 3rz swapped pickup (in progress)

85yotapolo

Ok so tighten them all the way Down I'll try that the top fitting on vein looks no leaks it's other one I'll try tighten down more and go from there

Sparkplug

if it hits, u can gall the threads up with something at the bottom, and usually make it work
2008 TRD 4x4 Double Cab Tacoma
1994 12 valve 5 speed 4x4 single cab dodge 2500
1986 22re 5speed 3link 4runner (the beater)
1982 3rz swapped pickup (in progress)

85yotapolo

Gall the threads up????? ???? How to make it work?? 

Thanks for help anything works

Sparkplug

chew the threads up, destroy them, take em out, so that it will only tighten to certain spot, first try to make it work how you have it now, tighten it down tight.
2008 TRD 4x4 Double Cab Tacoma
1994 12 valve 5 speed 4x4 single cab dodge 2500
1986 22re 5speed 3link 4runner (the beater)
1982 3rz swapped pickup (in progress)

85yotapolo

Oh ok I see so basie destroy the threads at bottom??  Any ideas flat head screw driver or??  Just try and mess them up or??   

Sparkplug

first try and tighten it down, if that fails, round file, or anyway u see fit.
2008 TRD 4x4 Double Cab Tacoma
1994 12 valve 5 speed 4x4 single cab dodge 2500
1986 22re 5speed 3link 4runner (the beater)
1982 3rz swapped pickup (in progress)

85yotapolo

Lol thanks mAn I will try for sure!!!  I need this thing running

-Matt-

Ya tapping it to deep won't allow you to get it tight enough and will leak. Teflon tape it  if that doesn't work you can always try what was stated above. If all else fails re drill and tap to 3/8  still works perfect and just be sure not to over tap it.

85yotapolo

What about thread lock???  I did some research they say loctite565 is good??  Any ideas ??? Best thread sealant ??  What out there

golana

i tapped another P/S box and made a tutorial video about it, based on Freds40's guidelines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RjBleDihU4
-Steve

1994 4Runner - BUILD THREAD
5VZ-FE - 12" Lift - High Steer - Hydraulic Assist - IFS Mod - Scuba Mod - Ford Fuel Tank - E-Fan - Doubler = 96.31:1 Crawl Ratio

Brake setup
FRONT: 98 Tacoma Rotors/Brake Master Cylinder/Booster, 94 V6 Pickup Calipers, 86 IFS Hubs
REAR: 85 Solid axle Rotors/Calipers/Lug Studs, 1/4" Wheel Spacer

rock-smasher

the lock tite tread sealant is good we use it on all hydro fittins where i work  it is good stuff the red tefflon tape is good to and it is a little thicker than the regular type

4rnr

I havent followed this thread since i did my assist in 06, so Im not sure what has been discussed since then....

Ive been running the parts mentioned in this thread plus a cooler. http://www.etrailer.com/Transmission-Coolers/Derale/D13250.html

When I had the 3.0 in my 4runner I was drilling out the pumps and going through them quite fast, faster than I realized. I started to pay attention after I swapped to a 3.4 and the 3.4 pump and I realized I was only getting 2 or 3 trail days out of a pump (OE or rebuild). So I bought a pump from oreillys with a lifetime warranty and kept a trail spare. On long wheeling trips I would have to change the pump in camp. Then I put in a stock unmodified pump, with a stock res (my large one leaked a little). That pump lasted over 2 years. I have not noticed a performance difference.

just my .02
92 4runner, 3.4L, a340f, blinged duals, marlin sas/leaf conversion, chromo, locked, assist, 37's, exo.....

85yotapolo

still got the leak on by ifs box,,, i tried everything simple only option now is bore out to bigger size,, im ready to throw some jb weld on this thing and just go lol

golana

i am almost finished building my solid axle swapped 94 4runner with a 3.4L in it. i just got the steering done today, and noticed that it is normal to steer when the truck is off... but when i start the truck, its hard to steer. its comparable to having a welded 3rd in the front with manual steering...

i drilled out the restrictor on the 3.4L pump, but im wondering if the pump is dead... cause i honestly cant steer worth a damn... also, driving on the dirt road on my property, the truck bump steers like CRAZY!

any ideas?
-Steve

1994 4Runner - BUILD THREAD
5VZ-FE - 12" Lift - High Steer - Hydraulic Assist - IFS Mod - Scuba Mod - Ford Fuel Tank - E-Fan - Doubler = 96.31:1 Crawl Ratio

Brake setup
FRONT: 98 Tacoma Rotors/Brake Master Cylinder/Booster, 94 V6 Pickup Calipers, 86 IFS Hubs
REAR: 85 Solid axle Rotors/Calipers/Lug Studs, 1/4" Wheel Spacer

golana

im willing to bed my ps pump on the 3.4L is dead... anyone ever run a 22re pump on a 3.4? im thinking of fabbing up somr brackets and gettin 'er done tomorrow! i know the 22re pump worked awesome, and i have like 4 of them, so why not?
-Steve

1994 4Runner - BUILD THREAD
5VZ-FE - 12" Lift - High Steer - Hydraulic Assist - IFS Mod - Scuba Mod - Ford Fuel Tank - E-Fan - Doubler = 96.31:1 Crawl Ratio

Brake setup
FRONT: 98 Tacoma Rotors/Brake Master Cylinder/Booster, 94 V6 Pickup Calipers, 86 IFS Hubs
REAR: 85 Solid axle Rotors/Calipers/Lug Studs, 1/4" Wheel Spacer

golana

Quote from: golana on August 27, 2011, 10:41:16 PM
im willing to bed my ps pump on the 3.4L is dead... anyone ever run a 22re pump on a 3.4? im thinking of fabbing up somr brackets and gettin 'er done tomorrow! i know the 22re pump worked awesome, and i have like 4 of them, so why not?

couldnt find my 22re pumps, but i found a bunch of 3.0 pumps, and modified the brackets, the pulley, and the reservoir to work. so now i have power steering again, and its AWESOME with the assist!
-Steve

1994 4Runner - BUILD THREAD
5VZ-FE - 12" Lift - High Steer - Hydraulic Assist - IFS Mod - Scuba Mod - Ford Fuel Tank - E-Fan - Doubler = 96.31:1 Crawl Ratio

Brake setup
FRONT: 98 Tacoma Rotors/Brake Master Cylinder/Booster, 94 V6 Pickup Calipers, 86 IFS Hubs
REAR: 85 Solid axle Rotors/Calipers/Lug Studs, 1/4" Wheel Spacer

santa cruz crawler

That you tube video is sweet , good explination ! :beer:

golana

Quote from: santa cruz crawler on August 30, 2011, 07:52:26 AM
That you tube video is sweet , good explination ! :beer:

thanks man :)

you can see my 4runner buildup if you watch the newer videos. i documented almost the whole build!
-Steve

1994 4Runner - BUILD THREAD
5VZ-FE - 12" Lift - High Steer - Hydraulic Assist - IFS Mod - Scuba Mod - Ford Fuel Tank - E-Fan - Doubler = 96.31:1 Crawl Ratio

Brake setup
FRONT: 98 Tacoma Rotors/Brake Master Cylinder/Booster, 94 V6 Pickup Calipers, 86 IFS Hubs
REAR: 85 Solid axle Rotors/Calipers/Lug Studs, 1/4" Wheel Spacer

superyota

Quote from: golana on August 29, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
couldnt find my 22re pumps, but i found a bunch of 3.0 pumps, and modified the brackets, the pulley, and the reservoir to work. so now i have power steering again, and its AWESOME with the assist!
you got any pics?
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golana

Quote from: superyota on August 30, 2011, 08:34:05 AM
you got any pics?

ive got a video... i tend to take way more videos than pictures... i should have taken a picture of the main bracket though... i had to grind a decent amount off it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ytlaMdTzGw
-Steve

1994 4Runner - BUILD THREAD
5VZ-FE - 12" Lift - High Steer - Hydraulic Assist - IFS Mod - Scuba Mod - Ford Fuel Tank - E-Fan - Doubler = 96.31:1 Crawl Ratio

Brake setup
FRONT: 98 Tacoma Rotors/Brake Master Cylinder/Booster, 94 V6 Pickup Calipers, 86 IFS Hubs
REAR: 85 Solid axle Rotors/Calipers/Lug Studs, 1/4" Wheel Spacer

Quick Draw

So I was going to tap my box last night but when I when I got on here for instructions, none of the pictures would load.  Same thing on the instructions on wildyoats.  We tried a couple different phones and computers. Same thing.  Is it just me or are the pictures gone?  I'll try that you tube video later.
'80 Pickup, 5VZ-FE engine, A340F transmission, Marlin gear drive adapter, Dual Ultimate transfer cases, 5.29 gears, Detroit rear/Lockrite front locker, 37" Goodyear MTRs, XRC8 winch, custom tube bed and armor


slowngreen

Quote from: Quick Draw on October 27, 2011, 08:02:30 AM
So I was going to tap my box last night but when I when I got on here for instructions, none of the pictures would load.  Same thing on the instructions on wildyoats.  We tried a couple different phones and computers. Same thing.  Is it just me or are the pictures gone?  I'll try that you tube video later.

None of the pics work for me either. Just a 404 error...

Rob84pkup


Quick Draw

Good, so I'm not crazy. 

So I took some bad advice on doing this.  I was basically under the impression, that you would have to be an idiot to drill all the way through the top vein, and that you can totally tell when it hits it.  Nope.  Apparently not when you have a brand new, very sharp 1/8" drill bit for the pilot hole.  That damn thing just kept on cruising, and I was through the other side before I knew what hit me.  I didn't feel the drill bit sink or anything.  SO...apparently I'm an idiot.
'80 Pickup, 5VZ-FE engine, A340F transmission, Marlin gear drive adapter, Dual Ultimate transfer cases, 5.29 gears, Detroit rear/Lockrite front locker, 37" Goodyear MTRs, XRC8 winch, custom tube bed and armor

superyota

Quote from: Quick Draw on November 15, 2011, 08:28:08 AM
Good, so I'm not crazy. 

So I took some bad advice on doing this.  I was basically under the impression, that you would have to be an idiot to drill all the way through the top vein, and that you can totally tell when it hits it.  Nope.  Apparently not when you have a brand new, very sharp 1/8" drill bit for the pilot hole.  That damn thing just kept on cruising, and I was through the other side before I knew what hit me.  I didn't feel the drill bit sink or anything.  SO...apparently I'm an idiot.
lol.  I did the same thing on my first box that I drilled and tapped. 
ABD Motorsports
#4475

If you can't convince them, confuse them.
Placer County Crawlers - President 2011-2016
www.placercountycrawlers.com

Rubicon Trail Foundation - Property Committee member
Friends of Fordyce - Board Member
KK6QDW

4XFlyin

I wish my drill bits were that efficient for other stuff I need to drill. LOL

Quote from: Quick Draw on November 15, 2011, 08:28:08 AM
Good, so I'm not crazy. 

So I took some bad advice on doing this.  I was basically under the impression, that you would have to be an idiot to drill all the way through the top vein, and that you can totally tell when it hits it.  Nope.  Apparently not when you have a brand new, very sharp 1/8" drill bit for the pilot hole.  That damn thing just kept on cruising, and I was through the other side before I knew what hit me.  I didn't feel the drill bit sink or anything.  SO...apparently I'm an idiot.
82 1st Gen with 4.3L vortec and 4l60e. Linked front and rear

My build up. Getting linked
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=50700.msg711361#msg711361

Sparkplug

I dont use a pilot bit on them, its not needed, the box material is soft, and a small bit goes too fast and makes it hard to see when you hit it
2008 TRD 4x4 Double Cab Tacoma
1994 12 valve 5 speed 4x4 single cab dodge 2500
1986 22re 5speed 3link 4runner (the beater)
1982 3rz swapped pickup (in progress)

Quick Draw

Well I finally tapped a box correctly and got this to work.  It's awesome!  This made the truck so much easier to drive down the road.  No more crazy bump steer or wiggles.  I don't have to slow way down for potholes anymore.  I can't way to test it on the trail this weekend.
'80 Pickup, 5VZ-FE engine, A340F transmission, Marlin gear drive adapter, Dual Ultimate transfer cases, 5.29 gears, Detroit rear/Lockrite front locker, 37" Goodyear MTRs, XRC8 winch, custom tube bed and armor