Author Topic: gear ratio for 33' tires. (Read 9382 times)

V-Man · « **on:** Apr 09, 2005, 08:05:34 PM »

Hey guys. I am getting ready to lift my truck and switch from the 265/70R 16 that came with the truck to 33' tires.
The formula says 0.12 X "tire size" and that gives "0.12 X 33 = 3.96". Now my Truck came with 4.10 and 30.61's. It has a four speed, Over-drive is 0.7, third (gear used when towing or off road) is 1:1. Since I am going to install a crawler later. I think I should be able to keep the 4.10 gears for highway/city driving, and just drop the reduction boxes in line when the road ends.

Ok Guys(and ladies) tell were I am WRONG. and Thx in advance.

Ferg · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 09, 2005, 09:10:56 PM »

Go with the 4.88's minimum. You'll be happier later.

Willy Mammoth · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 09, 2005, 09:16:09 PM »

If this works there should be a tire size and gear ratio chart. This should help you figure out what gears to go with based on highway speeds.

http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/assets/!!!---CHARTS---!!!/chart_gear-ratio.htm

IronClad · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 09, 2005, 09:24:16 PM »

if you dont wana spend a bunch of money find someone thats gettin rid of a set of 4.37s.. you wouldnt think they would make a difference over 4.10s but they really do. lotta guys run them around here. I got away with my 37" MT/R's on them for a long time and was still able to get reasonable gas mileage and cruised at 75MPH down the freeway

crawler925 · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 09, 2005, 11:35:18 PM »

go with 4.88 for sure... I'm running 4.88 gears with 33in boggers and its perfect!!

kyle_22r · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 10, 2005, 10:40:58 AM »

is this even on a toyota? no toy ever came with an overdrive 4 speed.

my 4.375s are great with 31s, i can accelerate to 60 uphill without too much trouble and i like how they keep my revs down on the freeway. i'm almost tempted to go to 4.56s when i go up to 33s, but i figure i'll probably just do 4.88s like everyone else for a little more power.

Mike D · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 10, 2005, 11:32:35 AM »

I have 5.29's with my 33's and it works great

V-Man · « **Reply #7 on:** Apr 10, 2005, 07:57:07 PM »

Quote from: kyle_22r on Apr 10, 2005, 10:40:58 AM

is this even on a toyota? no toy ever came with an overdrive 4 speed.

my 4.375s are great with 31s, i can accelerate to 60 uphill without too much trouble and i like how they keep my revs down on the freeway. i'm almost tempted to go to 4.56s when i go up to 33s, but i figure i'll probably just do 4.88s like everyone else for a little more power.

sure is. It's a V8 with an A340( 4 Speed Auto). I have been looking at the gear ratio chart ( A few of them). They are based on the top gear in the transmission being a 1:1 ratio. That is my third gear on the auto. My RPMs at 60mph in 4th(overdrive 0.70:1) is about 1900-1950, third is 2800 or so with the stock 4.10 rear ends. With 4.27 or 4.88's install the calculator tells me that my RPMs at 60mph in top gear is going to be just under the 2800 RPM mark. Now that would seem to me to defeat that purpose of having an over drive transmission on the highway. This truck is a DD and has to travel hundreds of Miles a year on the road. The only time it will see that dirt is fishing or camping trips, plus some snowy road in the winter. If I have a low enough ratio based on the formula, and simply drop TWO 4.70 reduction boxes in line when I need to really crawl. How can I be hurting. P.S. The 284Ci engine will give me just under 400hp if I add some

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kyle_22r · « **Reply #8 on:** Apr 10, 2005, 08:38:02 PM »

what the heck is a 284? tundra/lexus v8?

V-Man · « **Reply #9 on:** Apr 11, 2005, 04:25:34 PM »

Quote from: kyle_22r on Apr 10, 2005, 08:38:02 PM

what the heck is a 284? tundra/lexus v8?

Oh my god even the yanks have gone metric on me. It is a 284 cubic inch or 4.7 L, IFORCE V8

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #10 on:** Apr 12, 2005, 04:42:11 PM »

Quote from: Mike D on Apr 10, 2005, 11:32:35 AM

I have 5.29's with my 33's and it works great

@ve3nlp
go 4.88

@mike D
what what truck/moter U got? and how is the highway drivibility. I know thos greas are ment for 35" tires and was just wondering if that set up makes 1st gear in to a greanny gear?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 12, 2005, 06:18:02 PM »

with your tundra the 4.10's will be all you need, i would use a 4.7 and a 2.28, but your right for a commuter you dont want super low diff gears

Mike D · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 12, 2005, 09:37:40 PM »

Quote from: unclejpl4x4 on Apr 12, 2005, 04:42:11 PM

@ve3nlp
go 4.88

@mike D
what what truck/moter U got? and how is the highway drivibility. I know thos greas are ment for 35" tires and was just wondering if that set up makes 1st gear in to a greanny gear?

Its and 87 runner 22re

Yeah the first time i drove it after the new gears all i thought was I need bigger tires.

First is a little granny but its not to the point of insainity and the gears do kill the freeway driveability I can do about 65 and keep the revs low but there is still so much power left I just can't use it

STRAPON · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 07:43:57 AM »

I have 4.10s with 33's and .67 OD. It works great. I turn around 2k RPM at 75mph. I plan on going to 35's and changing to 4.88s to compensate. There are a lot of Potential Speed Calculators on the net to help you figure your best combination. You need to factor in the torque of the engine and all the additional unsprung weight you'll be adding with tires and wheels. $Beer Chug\'n$

IronClad · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 11:49:45 AM »

i think its funny how some of you guys think you need 5.29s to run 33's and 35's.. hell i only run a 5.13 with 37's and i have heavier axles ! i have to push a bunch more weight but still cruise down the freeway at 75mph. do you guys not have decent motors or somthin ?.. hell i was turnin my 37s great with my 4.37s was still able to cruise down the highway at 75mph. got clocked going 90mph once..

With your v8 and 33's you will only need a max of 4.37 gears. which can be had for about 50 bucks a third.

Mike D · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 11:52:14 AM »

i will be going bigger really soon so that is one of the reasons for 5.29's

91 super yoda · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 01:27:38 PM »

i ran 33's on my 91 2.4L for about a year and it was the same as losing my O/D, on the highway im still in 4th, but 5.29's and 36's pretty much set it back to stock feelin

my recomendation is 4.56 if you want a good highway gear, or 4.88 for a good round town gear

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 03:24:37 PM »

OK heres a ? for ya I have no clue what my gears are in the truck, it had 33" on it when i got it but from how it drives I don't think there stock. IS there anyway to tell with out pulling the rear apart? like counting pinion to wheel revolutions?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 05:33:15 PM »

Quote from: unclejpl4x4 on Apr 13, 2005, 03:24:37 PM

OK heres a ? for ya I have no clue what my gears are in the truck, it had 33" on it when i got it but from how it drives I don't think there stock. IS there anyway to tell with out pulling the rear apart? like counting pinion to wheel revolutions?

yes go look under the hood, depending on year model, the little tag with all the cool numbers and letters will b either on the inside right fender or firewall, about a 2"x4" look for a G292, which i a 4.10

what year is your truck

BigMike · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 06:55:18 PM »

Quote from: Mike D on Apr 10, 2005, 11:32:35 AM

I have 5.29's with my 33's and it works great

Mike, are your tries a "true" 33? My 35" MTRs measure 33" and I HATE it with 5.29s. 70 MPH on the freeway is a bit over 3k rpm, and 80 MPH is nearly 3600 rpm. I can't stand it.

If you are going 33s, save some money and either find some stock Yota 4.56s or keep the 4.11s you've got now. 4.88 is great for 35s and once I get some true 36s or 37s, then I'll be much happier with the 5.29s

V-Man · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 07:27:23 PM »

Quote from: BigMike on Apr 13, 2005, 06:55:18 PM

Mike, are your tries a "true" 33? My 35" MTRs measure 33" and I HATE it with 5.29s. 70 MPH on the freeway is a bit over 3k rpm, and 80 MPH is nearly 3600 rpm. I can't stand it.

If you are going 33s, save some money and either find some stock Yota 4.56s or keep the 4.11s you've got now. 4.88 is great for 35s and once I get some true 36s or 37s, then I'll be much happier with the 5.29s

Ya that's what I thought. When I do the axle swap it'll be with 4.88 or 5.29's with 35 to 38's. The tundra's stock reduction box comes with a 2.58:1 ratio. Ya the tires are true 33s, not 305-75R 16 or something. For 1200 to 1300 dollars they had better be true 33s

Mike D · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 13, 2005, 09:38:18 PM »

Bigmike they measure out to be 31.7" tall. and the only reason I got 5.29's is because of the 38.5's that will be coming

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 14, 2005, 04:56:37 AM »

@79coyotefrg

well the thing is i'm 50% sure there not stock form how the truck drives or it could just be me.

year 93/ moter 22re / 5speed
Now i have to shift befor i hit the other side of a intersetion say first gear 15mph+/-

toyofan7987 · « **Reply #23 on:** Jan 17, 2007, 06:46:20 PM »

i have an 87 pickup with 33's and a stock 22r .. i dont crawl i just use it on the road and in the mud ... i was wondering if neone had an idea of what ratio would work right for me

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #24 on:** Jan 17, 2007, 07:20:04 PM »

Tundra with the iforce V-8 should be fine on 33 and stock, my son-in-law is running that exact combination on his and about the only thing he lost was some fuel economy.

Tallchevy · « **Reply #25 on:** Jan 17, 2007, 07:37:25 PM »

Toyofan7987, run a 4.88

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