tons 2rz three link front. Now slamming on its nuts spring under rear!newpics

Started by 89sastoyo, March 15, 2009, 11:46:16 PM

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89sastoyo

oh Shitty well I have a stock 4cyl one I dont know the the bolt holes and everything lign up like I know that it would work for the T case odviously but I'm not sure about to the frame. I actually have like 3 of them haha.
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mattlosch

hahaha well once i get a new t-case and what not well have to see if it works
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Early

Im pretty sure i got one that i got with my tranny in the shop as well, if your interested ill grab it next time im out there. It came off a 87 turbo i think
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axled89

hey nice pics i was meaning to ask jason/ swapped how the rear d/line worked up there. :beer:
i love oregon wheelin.

mattlosch

also. what t-case do i need to get.. i know a gear driven but top shift ?
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89sastoyo

Quote from: axled89 on November 10, 2009, 06:38:52 PM
hey nice pics i was meaning to ask jason/ swapped how the rear d/line worked up there. :beer:

Oh it seemed like it was fine haha I saw his that was all tore up in his bed. he didnt complain about it at all.
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89sastoyo

Quote from: mattlosch on November 10, 2009, 06:54:36 PM
also. what t-case do i need to get.. i know a gear driven but top shift ?
Yeah top shift because when you do your duals you'll need a top shift for the rear case and if you put the 4.7s in this one planning on having it for the rear case then it would need to be top shift. They are a little harder to find but I think I know a guy who has a couple for 75
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mattlosch

im going to be interested here real soon!!
1983 caged, 22re, slammed

2006 cummins 6spd... somewhere around 750whp for a tow rig

Early

Quote from: 89sastoyo on November 10, 2009, 07:43:05 PM
Yeah top shift because when you do your duals you'll need a top shift for the rear case and if you put the 4.7s in this one planning on having it for the rear case then it would need to be top shift. They are a little harder to find but I think I know a guy who has a couple for 75
I was thinking about this and because hes using a r150 tranny (?) he would not have any forward shift capabilities. not positive though. So to do duals he would need two top shifts. its just to bad someone else makes a full top shift conversion kit (with 4wd rail included) and twin stick setup for a really good price and marlin dosen't (yet). then you could buy what ever.


Quote from: 89sastoyo on November 10, 2009, 07:41:32 PM
Oh it seemed like it was fine haha I saw his that was all tore up in his bed. he didnt complain about it at all.

Yea, i think it worked good, looked great. It also seemed like night and day his clearance with the new tires. there was a pointy rock at the first gate keeper for airplane hill that last time he got hung up a little. with his new tires he breezed right over it, only hitting air.
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mattlosch

yeah i cant use my stock t-case.. i have to get the v6 adapter then a gear driven t-case with a 23spline input so im going to run a 4.7 with 23.. then down the road get the dual adapter and another gear driven with anothing 23spline...
1983 caged, 22re, slammed

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mattlosch

so what i need is a gear driven top shift t-case?
1983 caged, 22re, slammed

2006 cummins 6spd... somewhere around 750whp for a tow rig

Early

yea, i would suggest looking at some pics of each so you don't get shafted by a seller trying to fake a gear driven. The biggest thing you can tell is the tranny to case mounting bolts. chain drives have like 10 bolts and round, and i think gear driven are 8 and oval

O and this guy you know with a couple. Wanna hook a brother up. Im collecting a bunch of things for a large conversion on the runner. One of my missing links is a second case.

edit: heres is the bolt pattern your looking for for a gear driven case. 6 bolts

A chain drive is 8 or 10 bolts in a more circular shape.
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mattlosch

thank you!!! that is very helpfull1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1983 caged, 22re, slammed

2006 cummins 6spd... somewhere around 750whp for a tow rig

Early

no problem. i just have this feeling that gear cases are getting scarce and people might get greedy. like someone posted 4runner front axle minus third $300, then you look and it turns out to be a whole ifs setup cut off.

more identification on cases, gear driven Can be identified by the 7 bolt rear cover. chain Can be identified by the 5 bolt rear cover.
(info found at http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts/)

someone needs to figure out something to do with all these chain cases. kinda want to break a couple open and try and mount them togeather or something.

i just had a thought about your upcoming duals, i don't think ive seen it but a adapter for a gear drive reduction box to chain reduction 4wd box. then you could run stock with a 2.28 reduction in the gear and a 2.57 reduction on the chain.

2.28*2.57=5.86
2.28*2.28=5.19
2.28*4.7=10.7

i guess not amazing but a little more with stock internals
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swapped89

Quote from: axled89 on November 10, 2009, 06:38:52 PM
hey nice pics i was meaning to ask jason/ swapped how the rear d/line worked up there. :beer:
worked great. no problems at all. Now i bring my spare DL everytime i go out lol.

Im uploadin some pics fromm my GF camera if any one wants MORE PICS.!!

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swapped89

Quote from: Early on November 10, 2009, 09:30:23 PM

someone needs to figure out something to do with all these chain cases. kinda want to break a couple open and try and mount them togeather or something.

i just had a thought about your upcoming duals, i don't think ive seen it but a adapter for a gear drive reduction box to chain reduction 4wd box. then you could run stock with a 2.28 reduction in the gear and a 2.57 reduction on the chain.

2.28*2.57=5.86
2.28*2.28=5.19
2.28*4.7=10.7

i guess not amazing but a little more with stock internals

how bout a 4.7 gear box to a chain driven box

4.7*2.57= 12.079    :beerchug:
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swapped89

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Flippin computer is being slooooooooooooo w.

cant get the pics to upload  :thumbdown:
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Early

Quote from: swapped89 on November 10, 2009, 10:22:04 PM
how bout a 4.7 gear box to a chain driven box

4.7*2.57= 12.079    :beerchug:

Yea, now your on the band wagon. since these cases go for nothing you could throw 10 of em in :P

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Quote from: Early on November 11, 2009, 08:42:01 AM
Yea, now your on the band wagon. since these cases go for nothing you could throw 10 of em in :P

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89sastoyo

hey matt You can run a forward shift front t case mine is and I converted it totop shift its easy you don't need the kit since its only the single shift rail and I can help you with it for sure.
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hey man your truck got messed up.  but that is part of the fun right. :beer:

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Quote from: 89sastoyo on November 11, 2009, 03:43:39 PM
hey matt You can run a forward shift front t case mine is and I converted it totop shift its easy you don't need the kit since its only the single shift rail and I can help you with it for sure.

Will a forward shift gear case work behind a R150 with adapter? And if he were to stay single case for a bit he would need both shafts to run 4wd. Is the 4wd shaft mod-able to work as a top shift.

Thats the one thing i see a problem with marlin's one shaft kit. I  (and everyone i think) would need a top shift for my rear case. While the rear case also controls 2wd/4wd operations so both shafts would be needed. This has been one of the areas im a little fuzzy on.

edit: So i hae been thinking about al the possibility with running a$20 dollar chain case. I got fairly deep in the back of my head. I decided to have a looksie around the site and found http://www.marlincrawler.com/transfer-case/line-ups/crawl-boxes/gear-drive-unit-right-hand-output-chain-drive-tcase . So i am only 2 years late, but interesting none the less. I didn't run the numbers but in my head i can't imagine a double gear case setup is more than that. Just a fyi
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89sastoyo

nice yah what I meant to clear it up a bit was he could buy a top shift first for the rear case then a forward shift second since there a bit easier to find and I can convert it to top shift so it would work behind the adaptor because there all the same minus the shift rails. But if all else fails for finding atleast one top shift there are always the conversion kits and trail gear makes one for 4.7s so its all pre ground down and everything.
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mattlosch

thanks for all the input! i think im going to run a 4.7 single case till spring then do duals since i will need another adapter, new DL's, and cross member..
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Quote from: mattlosch on November 12, 2009, 05:22:38 PM
thanks for all the input! i think im going to run a 4.7 single case till spring then do duals since i will need another adapter, new DL's, and cross member..

ya thats the cheapest way to crawl for you... swapped89 has a single 4.7 case and i have duals with stock 2.28's and his is just as slow or slower than mine

mattlosch

yeah the only problem is i would like to still have normal 4low for trails and such... then double for crawlin... but beggers cant be choosers i guess
1983 caged, 22re, slammed

2006 cummins 6spd... somewhere around 750whp for a tow rig

Halladay

ya swapped89 says thats the only downfall is just have the one gearing option and its slow haha