TWISTEDTOYS 92 SAS-->***7MGTE/R151F SWAP and FJZ80's in the works***

[82 HiLux]

i absolutely love my dual stock cases. 1st gear double low is perfect for anywhere i have needed to go.  the ideal setup would be tripple  cases, the first two 2.28 and the third one 4.7, cause then you could go extremely freakin' slow if you need to, or everything inbetween

[twistedtoy92]

lookin good! its funny how with toyotas you make a list of stuff you want to do to your truck, spend a crapload of money and do it all, and then make another list! i have the same problem lol. there will always be a list, these trucks are never finished

That is the TRUTH!! But its a great addiction!!

I'd just Aussie F/R simple as hell to setup.

But i'm setting up my own 5.29's so why not have a detriot out back??

IMO i wouldn't get the 4.7's i had them and it was too low. But Thats just the type of wheeling i do lot more trails that rocks so i didn't really need it.

Thats what I was debating but i love rocks..... whenever i get a chance i go out of my way to flex out on one

[THK Matt]

That is the TRUTH!! But its a great addiction!! :beerchug

But i'm setting up my own 5.29's so why not have a detriot out back??

Thats what I was debating but i love rocks..... whenever i get a chance i go out of my way to flex out on one

cause aussies are more simple, cheaper to fix and buy.. .and work hella good!

[twistedtoy92]

well crap now im not sure about the 4.7's.......  i need the beefy input shaft so i figured i might as well throw a 4.7 in there..... but i dunno..... i'll post a poll!

[twistedtoy92]

i dont care much for the POPing!

[THK Matt]

2.28s 23 spline Voted

[THK Matt]

i dont care much for the POPing!

they all pop on the street. aussie, lockrite and detroit.

[NorCalToy]

go 2.28s and stay cheap tehn upgrade to 4.7s later if you think you gotta

and 21 vs 23 , how much difference will it acutally make?

[twistedtoy92]

they all pop on the street. aussie, lockrite and detroit.

detriots are tuffer though...... but then again i could get to aussie's for the price of one detroit...... hmmmm, too many damn choices!!

Well after shearing that 21 stock input so easily i think the 23 spline beef would be better!! with an MC R10 of course

[Dr.Maxwe001]

2:28/23  thats they way I voted  keep it as cheep as you can now and upgrade later on   

[82 HiLux]

detroits are smooth and silent supposedly, ive never ran one though. they arent supposed to clack and make your truck lurch. thats why they are 500$ instead of like 250 or 300. unless you are getting a selectable for the rear, a detroit would be your best bet.  as for the front, get a ratcheting locker or a selectable or limited slip or something.  i dont know if you have ever driven a truck with full lockers front and rear, but you CANNOT TURN!!! some people say "oh well ill just get out and unlock my hubs when i need to turn." who the hell wants to unlock their hubs every time they want to turn?  with full lockers front and rear your steering wheel almost just locks straight so keep that in mind!

[THK Matt]

my buddy has detroits front and rear, 5.29s on 35s at the moment on stock push pull steering... what a  PITA

[82 HiLux]

toyota push pull steering is the worst thing ever by far.

[THK Matt]

it does it's job lol

[rednk1980]

your input shaft broke because its had 20 years of abuse on it. New 21 spline is plenty strong or a 23 spline 2.28.

[twistedtoy92]

yup, im getting 23 spline 2.28 marlin R10, detroit rear and aussie front with 5.29's.... plus 30 sline longs and chromo hub gears! and a 10 inch front slip yoke

[twistedtoy92]

well I have decided to hold off on the 4.7's for a while.... i'd rather get other parts! 
So its 23 total spline input and 23 spline R10 adapter for now!!!  I hope my check on friday is fat so i can order those up!!!  I have a couple forward shifts and one top shift sittin in the garage so i will build duals out of those and then have an extra AA dual case set up! 

i love driving this truck   

[Ramrod]

an aussie in the rear is smoother than a detroit, detroit really load up and pop sometimes and jerk the truck.  Mine is really nice in the front though

[twistedtoy92]

23 spline and 2.28's it is!!! now to decide on lockers......

[Ramrod]

how are you going to run that 23 spline? 

[twistedtoy92]

in the rear case.... 23 spline input in the rear case because the front of the coupler is eternally splined..... therefore i can run a 23 in the rear case and a 21 in the front case because i have a W56 and not a turbo/V6 transmission.....

[twistedtoy92]

ordered a 6 inch flex pipe last night to throw on my exhaust and stop going through those damn header collector gaskets... also ordered a EGR block off kit for my dads 80 2wd i rebuilt last summer so we can through his heddman shorty header on with 2 1/4 magnaflow exhaust.... and im going to get hysteer, brake lines and 12 inch bilsteins for his 85 crawler......

[Ramrod]

gonna run 23 sline 4.7's in the rear case?

[kiyul4130]

gonna run 23 sline 4.7's in the rear case?

ya im not getting this either, unless he buys a 23 spline 2.28 gear like the v6 guys have to do.
only options:
1. 2.28 (21 first case), 2.28 (21 second case)
2. 2.28 (21 first case), 2.28 (23 spline turbo gear second case unless using a turbo case all together)
3. 2.28 (21 first case), 4.7 (23 spline second case)

[twistedtoy92]

ok now im confused.... doesnt marlin sell a 23 spline 2.28 or is it only 4.7? or is the turbo case totally different, i've never dealt with turbo trannys or tc's........

[THK Matt]

MC sells the 2.28 23spl Input Gear and 4.7 23spl input

I think what they mean is you can't have a 23 spl input on the front case.... unless using a turbo trans with a 23spl input?

[kiyul4130]

ya, no matter what you cant run a 23 spline front cause you have a W56. as far as the rear case goes you can run a 21 or 23 depending on what you want to do. if you wanted to do stock duals but some extra strength you could buy the 23 spline MC07 (R10) or whatever and then buy the 23 spline 2.28 gear. ive never heard of anyone doing that. or you could just run both cases at 21 spline and do stock duals. you also have the option of running a a 23 spline adapter and if you came up on a turbo gear drive case thats behind a R151F thats 23 spline factory, you could use that and then eventually get a 23 spline 4.7 later.

[kiyul4130]

MC sells the 2.28 23spl Input Gear and 4.7 23spl input

I think what they mean is you can't have a 23 spl input on the front case.... unless using a turbo trans with a 23spl input?

yes your correct.

[twistedtoy92]

in the rear case.... 23 spline input in the rear case because the front of the coupler is eternally splined..... therefore i can run a 23 in the rear case and a 21 in the front case because i have a W56 and not a turbo/V6 transmission.....

isnt that what i said??? someone correct me if i am wrong please!   

21 TOTAL SPLINE in the FRONT CASE and 23 TOTAL SPLINE in the REAR CASE

[twistedtoy92]

ok thats exactly what i thought, thanks for clearing that up guys!!!

I will run a 23 spline in the front case when i get a V6 or Turbo tranny (R series)