unclejs revamp (playing DR )

Started by unclejpl4x4, November 18, 2007, 08:38:20 AM

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unclejpl4x4

I was thinking that to glen   2 1/2 holes  on the lower flat part.

and some more pics   I got the back half of the frame sandblasted good enoff for some primer  . I got get more metal from work   hoping to weld it up  monday,tusday wendsay back together or im screwed  + i got find thet part for the fuel tank.  GLen PM  








:willynilly:  it's a space man :willynilly: ( no thats not me)
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79coyotefrg

dude, if you can i would cut the entire inner part of the frame out, (same as where you are cutting out but MORE)

:dunno:

is the hard brakeline rusted at all??
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unclejpl4x4

well i got a update  the gas take side is patched up ................ out of time  to do what i did to the drivers side which was not planed.

I cut a big section out  welded some 3 plates together befor i welded that in.

I put a piece in the frame to cover a hole which then i patched from the out side.





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LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

unclejpl4x4

Heres the three pieces i made into one plate.


Then after they where in.


Now its dark out and getting late  this piece is half way welding in ill finish it tomarrow if it dose not :rain:
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LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

zippo

Damn dude, just get a new frame. By the time your done you've spent more/more time then just getting a new frame... Atleast your doing nice work :-p
If you see it, its for sale.

ninja turtle


unclejpl4x4

#306
OK update     im done for now :thud:   and it felt weird driving my truck  after being in a s-10 for 2weeks.

The inside of the tank was spotless :disturbed:  the sock was clean  8)    and i got my new stuff in  :_order:    I chased all the bolt holes and anti-sized every thing  then lots of paint  i just gooped that stuff on thick.











Thats it for now  till i take a week off  :driving:

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LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

79coyotefrg

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unclejpl4x4

well back to the moter :thud: it's been getting worse.  it's been missing bad on cold start up  after it warms up it runs rough.

Poor gas miles  can smell gas driving the truck, but no leak
Truck has started to use anti-freeze  i put some in last week  and i just put a lot more in this week :thud:
Crank seal is starting to leak got to replace that (not motor running bad related)

Heres what i have covered so far.
1. TPS, good
2. cold start injector, good
3. new cap & rotor, good
4. AFM, good
5. water senders ,good
6. plug wires, good
7. air filter  , good
8. vac lines  , good
9. change plugs ,  aging

I Still have to do a compression check   and leak down. Rad test
Note: after leting the motor cool of for 6hrs the rad still had pressure.
Note: LC injectors are really loud can here them inside the cab. ( my first suspect)
Note: already adjusted the valves  
Note: truck is not over heating well not that the gauge is really useful senders good  but the gauge never moves past cold.

IM thinking  once aging i got another crappy LC product    + now a leak some wheres  maybe head maybe intake :dunno: yet
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LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

kneedownnate

#309
If it's missing and running through coolant...  :bolt:  You like doing head gaskets, right?
RIP KYOTA

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79coyotefrg

is it losing coolant ??

i think if it was a hg the pressure in the radiator would have already bled off :headscratch:
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79coyotefrg

Quote from: ÜncleĴ on August 16, 2009, 10:21:18 AM

Truck has started to use anti-freeze  i put some in last week  and i just put a lot more in this week :thud:


Crank seal is starting to leak got to replace that (not motor running bad related)


I Still have to do a compression check   and leak down. Rad test
Note: after leting the motor cool of for 6hrs the rad still had pressure.
Note: LC injectors are really loud can here them inside the cab. ( my first suspect)
Note: already adjusted the valves   
Note: truck is not over heating well not that the gauge is really useful senders good  but the gauge never moves past cold.

IM thinking  once aging i got another crappy LC product    + now a leak some wheres  maybe head maybe intake :dunno: yet
oh crap :headshake:
AR-TTORA founder 22R bored.060,LCE stage II race cam http://pure-gas.org/    32/36weber, :driving: Marlin 1200 NON ceramic clutch, L52SHD+dualcase #2919, cable-locker, Yukon 5.29 gears, 35's, Allpro ebrake, front springs, and high steer, F150rears    RIP Nitro 9-29-07 :(  I sure miss him :down: MarlinCrawlerInc IS NOT affiliated with TrailGear in any way

unclejpl4x4

well it held pressure over night and most of the day so i don't think it could be a HG    maybe a small crack in the manifold and when it heats up it leaks................
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LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

79coyotefrg

what did you use in your engine from LC?  you didnt get a long block did you??

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crazykooter

Hey unc Man u have been busy !! All the repairs look great.   If its eating coolant and you cant see if its external then I would have to say your HG is leaking into #4 via the coolant port between 3 and 4.  Mine leaked like that for well 6 months before it finally got bad enough to force me to change the hg.   
  If you can post pics of plugs 3 and 4 close ups.  Plus have you done a compression check yet ? Heck a leak down would be even better.

unclejpl4x4

#315
yup it's a headgasket  shes all bubbly wubbly and peeing out the tank..................

Gonna wait till she cools off and re torque the head and hope it holds till friday.......... :crossed:


motor got 18,958 miles on her  so the ? is why why why :tantrum:   maybe the arp bolts streched :dunno:  i remember tighing a week or to after i put it on the road.......... ill find out in a bit if thats why.


 yup dem headbolts not tight, and no it did not help     :tantrum:  :thud:

guss im walking till my kit shows up 


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LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

79coyotefrg

yea i wondered about those arp's i guess i answered my own question about them stretching after heated up  :down:
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crazykooter

The rule of thumb I was taught was re torque after 1000k miles then again after 5000 miles.  Its not a spec its just someone experience.

unclejpl4x4

heads off    i can't tell where it was leaking from the gasket pulled apart  i got a lot of cleaning to do ........... also there was      puddles of oil in the lower intake runners show a pic later.

I got clean the upper intake,  head, block 
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roundeyes http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=33294.0;highlight=round+eyes
LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

zippo

Did you use oil, or ARP lub on the ARP studs? That can change the torque specs. I doubt they stretched under normal load ARP are top notch.

I also had oil in my runners, PCV valve was junk, blowing oil into the intake.

Good Luck! Atleast the bottom end is still good...
If you see it, its for sale.

unclejpl4x4

I cleaned my room and found my USB adapter  so here are the pics.

ill start with the exhaust.
#1 http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b253/unclejpl4x4/truck/Picture170.jpg
#2/3 http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b253/unclejpl4x4/truck/Picture167.jpg
#4 http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b253/unclejpl4x4/truck/Picture167.jpg

Heres the lower  runners  http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b253/unclejpl4x4/truck/Picture165.jpg

The head   now keep in mind the motor has about 18,XXX on it and i have been running reg gas from 1 place but i think it was alot of carbon
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b253/unclejpl4x4/truck/Picture168.jpg
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CB install http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=45467.0
roundeyes http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=33294.0;highlight=round+eyes
LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

KDXSR5

Quote from: ÜncleĴ on September 11, 2009, 05:32:03 PM
I cleaned my room and found my USB adapter  so here are the pics.

ill start with the exhaust.
#1
#2/3
#4

Heres the lower  runners 

The head   now keep in mind the motor has about 18,XXX on it and i have been running reg gas from 1 place but i think it was alot of carbon







That head gasket looks gross, especially for the miles.

unclejpl4x4

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LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

THK Matt

that head looks like :pokinit:...

I have an 85 22RE head thats in better condition then that sitting in my garage.
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kneedownnate

Aside from being dirty, I see absolutely nothing wrong with that head, but what do I know  :dunno:
RIP KYOTA

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KDXSR5

Quote from: ÜncleĴ on September 11, 2009, 07:07:00 PM
theres no gasket on that

Oh ok, so the head is just dirty then. I was thinking that is one bad looking gasket on it, lol. Sorry for the confusion.

79coyotefrg

Joe, what are those scratches ?? looks like they go cross ways side to side??

Oh and its been running EXTREMELY rich,  when you get it back together you need to adjust the AFM to compensate for the cam
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unclejpl4x4

those where there after i got it back from the machine shop i think its where he planed it or what ever i whizzed them out  them all out  u can see them but not feel them  or i would of did it the first time.

see thats what i was wondering glen if i needed to do the afm lean but since iput the ppic in i got from u it runs better so :dunno:
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CB install http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=45467.0
roundeyes http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=33294.0;highlight=round+eyes
LC exhaust head 2 tip, EB RVstreethead O/S valves,EB  268c/torker cam , .20 over , metal t-chain wear pads
MARLIN clutch 1200, master clutch cly

79coyotefrg

man i wonder if those marks werent the cause of the HG going,  a head shouldnt have marks on it like that,  me thinks machine shop dude was on crack

:eek:
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spc mike

From looking at the picture of the head it looks like the machinist ran the CNC to fast leaving a coarse (but uniformed) machined finish or the end mill he was using had a chip in it. Although it could be alot better i doubt that had anything to do with the head gasket failing. As long as the head is true you should be fine. i work at a Machine and MFG shop so i seen stuff like that once in a while.