Topic: How we gonna cook ???

[*** YELLER ***]

Ok with the fire restrictions as they are how we gonna cook our food


You need a fire permit to have camp stoves and the like  but we cant get a permit to operate the cookstoves and the like because the fire permits are not allowed right now due to high fire danger, so what do we do 

I guess its gonna be alot of sandwiches and cereal 


What do you think 


 

[Duffil]

pop tarts, burritos on the intake, put a can-o-beans on top of your cat, and don't forget the


what's the problem?

[Duffil]

actually, that's a good question.  It hadn't occurred to me.  pre-cook stuff and pack it in ziplocks.

[*** YELLER *** [OP]]

put a can-o-beans on top of your cat, and don't forget the


what's the problem?

55 CJs dont have cats 


 

[Duffil]

55 CJs dont have cats 


 

sorry about your luck.

[*** YELLER *** [OP]]

actually, that's a good question.  It hadn't occurred to me.  pre-cook stuff and pack it in ziplocks.

OK but dont you want a warn breakfast in da mornin


and a hot meal before bed


 

[Rocksurfer]

Header burritos

[*** YELLER *** [OP]]

sorry about your luck.

Yea I know    but next year Ill have the Runner done and then Ill have a cat 



 

[Duffil]

OK but dont you want a warn breakfast in da mornin


and a hot meal before bed


 

dude, half the time I can't remember IF I ate breakfast, let alone if it was hot.  I am fine with cereal/poptarts/leftover beer/whatever.

[*** YELLER *** [OP]]

Im gonna check with our local USFS and see what they say


But then again the burn permits were suspended last year too and we cooked


I guess it all depends on how they enforce it


 

[*** YELLER *** [OP]]

dude, half the time I can't remember IF I ate breakfast, let alone if it was hot.  I am fine with cereal/poptarts/leftover beer/whatever.

Maybe I should retitle this to "how the fat people gonna cook 'cause we like our food" and like to remember if we ate and what we had 



 

[Duffil]

[*FFC*]

Dave, please let us know what the FS says about this.  I'm sure the bases will be covered officially, and being in September, they might allow fire permits

But here are some ideas anyway:

Hard boil a few eggs at home, stick em in some ziplocs.  Leave the shell on that way they stay fresher Oooohh they make a great snack/breakfast whatever.  Bring mayo and relish, you can have egg salad sammiches.  There are endless possibilities with hard boiled eggs

Another idea:

Bring some frozen burritos.  Matt and I do this all the time with those frozen bean and cheese (not the meat, cuz they're greasy ) Put them in sammich size ziplocs, 2 to a bag.  When you start to get hungry, take a bag out and set em on the hood in the sun.  Within 20 mins or so you got yerself a warm burrito

Hmmm... what else....

OH those huge sammiches from Winco! They're like 15 inches long and they are only about $3-$4 each.  If you bring your own mayo/mustard whatever, they make great quick and quality lunches Just don't forget the chips

[Lady Di]

OK but dont you want a warn breakfast in da mornin


and a hot meal before bed


 

      Electric skillet We can run it from the onboard welder.  I don't care so much about dinner, but definetly a nice big warm breakfast!

[Lady Di]

But the bigger question, how is the MC crew going to do the big honkin tri-tip BBQ?

[MiniSimp]

Everybody remember, Rubicon Springs is private property.


Current forest order:

Fire Restrictions: Due to extreme fire danger the fire restrictions have changed as of August 6, 2007.
 

As of August 6, the only facilities still exempted from fire restrictions are those that have running water and a host. See order and exemption list below for specific information.

Restrictions can vary from forest to forest check with the local forest where you are traveling for their current restrictions. If you have questions regarding current restrictions on the Eldorado and their effect on your plans please check with any Eldorado National Forest office.

How are Fire Restrictions Determined?

Fire hazard is determined by the fuel moisture content in an area (the amount of moisture present in the surrounding trees and brush) and by local weather patterns, which include the temperature, the prevailing winds, and the relative humidity.

Current Forest Conditions

This winter the Eldorado received less than 50% of it's normal precipitation. This is the earliest the Forest has ever entered into fire restrictions. The forest is dry and it will only become drier as the summer season progresses. Please be very careful out there. Do your part and pass this information on to your fellow campers.

For the Eldorado National Forest:

ORDER NUMBER 03-07-07 (pdf)
*FIRE RESTRICTIONS*
ELDORADO NATIONAL FOREST

Pursuant to 36 CFR 261.50(a) and (b), and to protect public safety and natural resources, the following acts are prohibited within the Eldorado National Forest. This order is effective from August 6, 2007, through the end of the official 2007 fire season.

Building, maintaining, attending or using a fire, campfire, or stove fire, except within the stoves and fire rings provided in the designated exempt sites shown on Exhibit A. 36 CFR 261.52(a).
Possessing, discharging or using any kind of firework or other pyrotechnic device. 36 CFR 261.52(f).
Smoking, except within an enclosed vehicle or building, within the designated exempt sites shown on Exhibit A, or while stopped in an area at least three feet in diameter that is barren or cleared of all flammable material. 36 CFR 261.52(d).
Operating an internal combustion engine off National Forest System roads and National Forest System trails, except for boats or dredges on a water surface. 36 CFR 261.52(h).
Welding, or operating an acetylene or other torch with an open flame. 36 CFR 261.52(i).
Using an explosive. 36 CFR 261.52(b).
Pursuant to 36 CFR 261.50(e), the following persons are exempt from this order:

Any Federal, State, or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or fire fighting force in the performance of an official duty.
Persons with a permit from the Forest Service specifically authorizing the otherwise prohibited act or omission. Persons with a valid Wilderness Permit or a valid California Campfire Permit are NOT exempt from the prohibitions listed above. However, persons with a valid California Campfire Permit, or a valid Wilderness Permit, may use a portable stove or lantern that uses gas, jellied petroleum, or pressurized liquid fuel.
Persons with a valid Forest Product Removal Permit (firewood permit) from the Eldorado National Forest may cut firewood provided that the cutting of the firewood is done in compliance with the terms of the permit.
These prohibitions are in addition to the general prohibitions in 36 CFR Part 261, Subpart A.


Executed in Placerville, California, this 6th day of August, 2007.

/s/ Ramiro Villalvazo

Ramiro Villalvazo
Forest Supervisor

A violation of these prohibitions is punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than 6 months, or both. 16 USC 551 and 18 USC 3559, 3571, and 3581.

This Order supercedes Forest Order 03-07-06, dated June 18, 2007.

Eldorado National Forest
Fire Restrictions 2007
Order Number: 03-07-07
Exhibit A
Eldorado National Forest Designated Exempt Sites

Amador Ranger District
Bear River Campground
Caples Lake Campground
Camp Winton (Boy Scouts of America)
Camp Silverado (Boy Scouts of America)
Kirkwood Campground
Kit Carson Lodge
Pardoes Point Campground and Picnic Area
Pipi Campground and Picnic Area
Silver Lake East Campground
South Shore Campground
Sugar Pine Point Campground
Two-Sentinels Girl Scout Camp
Stockton Municipal Camp
Woods Lake Picnic Area and Campground

Georgetown Ranger District
Black Oak Campground
Stumpy Meadows Campground and Boat Ramp

Pacific Ranger District
Crystal Administrative Site
Fashoda Campground and Picnic Area
Gerle Creek Picnic Area and Campground
Ice House Picnic Area, Campground, and Boat Ramp
Loon Lake Picnic Area, Campground, Equestrian Campground, Groups 1-3 Campgrounds, Boat Ramp, and Trailhead
Sunset Campground
Wench Creek Campground, Groups 1 and 2
Wolf Creek Campgrounds
Wrights Lake Picnic Area, Campground, Equestrian Campground, and Trailheads
Yellowjacket Campground

Placerville Ranger District
Bridal Veil Picnic Area
Camp Sacramento
Capps Crossing Campground
China Flat Campground
Sand Flat Campground
Sierra Pines Baptist Camp
Silver Fork Campground

[Lady Di]

Everybody remember, Rubicon Springs is private property.


Current forest order:

OK so what does this mean? Can we have a fire (propane grill/stove) with a permit?

[MiniSimp]

You people need to read betta

However, persons with a valid California Campfire Permit, or a valid Wilderness Permit, may use a portable stove or lantern that uses gas, jellied petroleum, or pressurized liquid fuel.

[*FFC*]

You people need to read betta

Be nice to her















Thank you, cuz I didn't see that part either Now... how to get a permit

[MiniSimp]

Now... how to get a permit

Um...same way we did last year, stop at the ranger station and pick one up!

[*FFC*]

Um...same way we did last year, stop at the ranger station and pick one up!

Um We may not be going in that way...

[MiniSimp]

Um We may not be going in that way...

There is more than one ranger station, pretty sure they have one in Tahoe also...

[UKMyers]

It takes two seconds to get a permit at any ranger station. I have a skillet that goes over my coleman stove that I can do steaks, burgers or whatever else on. Some of us had gas BBQ's even a few weeks back on the TTORA run. It's not that big of a deal. As long as you don't have charcoal or flame your good to go.

[*FFC*]

I got 2 stoves... skillets... griddles... I'll see bout getting a permit ahead of time

[Duffil]

Welding, or operating an acetylene or other torch with an open flame. 36 CFR 261.52(i).

OK, nobody is allowed to break.

[Lady Di]

You people need to read betta

you  couldn't have just highlighted that in the first place? Like I have the time or desire to read through all that in the first place.

[Lady Di]

Welding, or operating an acetylene or other torch with an open flame. 36 CFR 261.52(i).

OK, nobody is allowed to break.

Mini...

[*** YELLER *** [OP]]

Everybody remember, Rubicon Springs is private property.

But what about Buck Isl. and the rest of the trail and those who dont stay at the springs




 

[Duffil]

Mini...

[unclejpl4x4]

a cooking thread how did i miss this get in my belly