Author Topic: Tiny oil filters (Read 8452 times)

twistedtoy92 · « **on:** Apr 10, 2007, 11:06:45 AM »

How many people still run that tiny stock oil filter on their 22r/re that is

smaller than a damn aluminum can??? I personally run the 1515 which is almost four times the size and costs about the same..... what the heck is up with that?

Tallchevy · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 11:14:06 AM »

I run the larger one. More oil capacity

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 11:17:19 AM »

good deal, i gave ya a point for that!!!

jimbo74 · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 11:25:44 AM »

i either run a ford fl1a or a ford 400s

blackdiamond · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 11:48:40 AM »

Let's consider that the 22R & 22RE are just about the most reliable engine produced on planet earth. If the stock oil filter doesn't seem to be the limiting factor. The main concern with the size is capacity allowing longer drain intervals. If your changing at 3k or 5k OCI I wouldn't worry about it unless you have a sludge problem. I fugure they are worth the $4.19 I paid for them at the dealer.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 11:53:19 AM »

true, you have good points, but having an extra quart of oil capacity extends the life of oil (takes longer to break down thermolly) and more/ better filtration...... am i right?? but hey, thats why i started this poll to get everyone's opinion on the subject!!!

blackdiamond · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 11:56:06 AM »

A larger filter doesn't always mean better filtration, it depends on the type of filter used. If you want the best get a Amsoil Ea filter that has a very large capacity and great filtration. I think there is a Mobil 1 filter that is excellent as well.

Check out www.bobistheoilguy.com for info from oil geeks.

twistedtoy92 · « **Reply #7 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 11:59:26 AM »

yeah you are right.... so you use the stock factory filters???

*ROKTOY* · « **Reply #8 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 12:00:55 PM »

At the present time I run the stock filter, but at my next oil change I will be going to the larger filter and remotely located.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #9 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 12:27:27 PM »

Quote from: twistedtoy92 on Apr 10, 2007, 11:59:26 AM

yeah you are right.... so you use the stock factory filters???

I considered the Amsoil and Mobil 1 and opted for the Toyota Factory filters because they are cheap and easy to get. Anything good enough for Toyota is good enough for me. Interestingly enough, the same filter seems to go on nearly all Toyota's with the exception of the new 5.7L Tundra engine. The guy didn't even ask what type of car/truck/suv it was for, just handed me a couple of filters.

854RUN · « **Reply #10 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 12:51:26 PM »

who make the 1515 filter?

NT-OUTBACK · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 01:36:50 PM »

My thoughts, if you have so much trash floating around in the oil you need a bigger filter, you have other problems.

Duffil · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 02:27:16 PM »

Quote from: 854RUN on Apr 10, 2007, 12:51:26 PM

who make the 1515 filter?

NAPA. It's a Ford filter, also common on industrial applications.

Yes, I run one.

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 02:35:56 PM »

napa # 1515 also fond on ford explores

I use K&N filter

One thing U need 2 know about filters U get what U pay for U buy a cheap filter U get a cheap filter.

also if the filter says 10micron its not 10 it will have holes bigger and smaller the 10.
Now if the filter say abslout 10 microns then they are all 10

jimbo74 · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 02:55:09 PM »

the 1515 napa filter is the ford fl1a.... its used on explorers, some rangers, in industrial stuff, some diesels use it... they are all over the place

854RUN · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 03:22:02 PM »

O I see thank for the clarification on that guys. This is the first i have hear of using a bigger filter.

blackdiamond · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 04:45:46 PM »

Multiple Choice Question

Toyota engine + Ford oil filter =

(a) An improved Toyota engine
(b) Makes no difference
(c) Did I really put a Ford part on my Toyota?

jimbo74 · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 04:52:16 PM »

Quote from: blackdiamond on Apr 10, 2007, 04:45:46 PM

Multiple Choice Question

Toyota engine + Ford oil filter =

(a) An improved Toyota engine
(b) Makes no difference
(c) Did I really put a Ford part on my Toyota?

if toyota had a filter the size of the fl1a i would put that one there... but they dont.....

its all the same thread pitch and diameter hole....

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 04:55:05 PM »

well as long as u use a napa filter or other brand and not a filter that says motercraft on it it's not ford

when i work at yoda we had 3 filters 2 where same pitch thread one was just longer 22r/camry/avalon what ever the only filter that was way big was the one for the landcruiser.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 04:56:57 PM »

Quote from: unclejpl4x4 on Apr 10, 2007, 04:55:05 PM

well as long as u use a napa filter or other brand and not a filter that says motercraft on it it's not ford

i actually use the ford brand.. they carry them at walmart, they are a lot heavier and their construction is strong than the typical fram crap..... it doesnt matter.... its the same stuff... ford has good filters....

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 04:58:03 PM »

jim ford/walmart why O why

jimbo74 · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 05:04:47 PM »

Quote from: unclejpl4x4 on Apr 10, 2007, 04:58:03 PM

jim ford/walmart why O why

it's fine... nothing wrong with them at all..... ive been in my engine several times, and there is no evidence of any harm..... my oil remains clean for a very long time, and i usually dont change the dino oil for 5k miles anyways....

there are a lot of myths about oil and filters and where you get things and how long to change the oil.... blah blah...... there have been significant tests to show fram filters are crap. but just about anything else is pretty good..

dirtchicken · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 05:06:27 PM »

Fram is one of the worst. Napa Gold and Wix are two of the best. Guess which one makes Fords?? (Wix)

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 05:10:06 PM »

well 1 if your oil is staying clean thats not good it means it's not doing it's job.
oil has 3 jobs
1. lubercats
2.cleans
3.cools

2. The reason our oil gets black is it's cleaning all the crap from the moter and suspends it in the oil.
if your oil dose not get black that moter better be new/clean enoff 2 eat off of.

unclejpl4x4 · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 05:11:44 PM »

Quote from: dirtchicken on Apr 10, 2007, 05:06:27 PM

Fram is one of the worst. Napa Gold and Wix are two of the best. Guess which one makes Fords?? (Wix)

napa and wix are the same
take a wix filter say PN XX1415 drop the first 2 XX U got 1415 thats a napa filter

blackdiamond · « **Reply #25 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 05:22:48 PM »

Quote from: unclejpl4x4 on Apr 10, 2007, 05:10:06 PM

well 1 if your oil is staying clean thats not good it means it's not doing it's job.
oil has 3 jobs
1. lubercats
2.cleans
3.cools

2. The reason our oil gets black is it's cleaning all the crap from the moter and suspends it in the oil.
if your oil dose not get black that moter better be new/clean enoff 2 eat off of.

If your OCI are low enough the oil may not change color and the filter may be containing the majority of the crap, but you are correct. The oil color isn't an indication of its condition.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #26 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 05:25:33 PM »

actually the ford ones that arent the ones that coem on the new cars are actually made by someone else, i think its champion labs

and fram is the worst, they suck and dont have a proper anti drainback valve

my engine is pretty clean, ive been through it soooo many times and rountinely run cleaners such as seafoam through it.....

my oil does get dirty after an oil change, it jsut takes awhile.....

ovrrdrive · « **Reply #27 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 06:16:25 PM »

Last I heard bitog wasn't even running a filter because he decided that better flow was more important than higher filtration.

In my opinion, running a larger oil filter gives greater filter area inside the filter that's exposed to oil, and in turn gives the benefits of higher filtration rates with the added benefit of a higher flow rate. It's a win/win situation.

I don't think the extra capacity is that big of a deal if you change your oil regularly, which I do.

I run a walmart brand Supertech ST16 filter on mine which is the same size as a fram ph16. However, the ST filters are made by champion and are actually of pretty high quality. And cheap enough to not feel guilty about my 3k mile oci's.

Hyena · « **Reply #28 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 06:20:39 PM »

i use the stock one and i haven't killed my motor yet!

Tallchevy · « **Reply #29 on:** Apr 10, 2007, 07:34:22 PM »

Quote from: unclejpl4x4 on Apr 10, 2007, 05:11:44 PM

napa and wix are the same
take a wix filter say PN XX1415 drop the first 2 XX U got 1415 thats a napa filter

Thats cause Wix makes the filters for Napa

Quote from: unclejpl4x4 link=topic=32698.msg367604#msg367604 Idate=1176250206

The reason our oil gets black is it's cleaning all the crap from the moter and suspends it in the oil.
if your oil dose not get black that moter better be new/clean enoff 2 eat off of.

I believe the engine oil turns black cause carbon from the gasoline.

If your running CNG (compressed natrual gas) your oil doesn't turn black


	Poll What size of oil filter do you use on your 22R/RE?? Tiny Little Stock Filter 12 (48%) Huge 1515 8 (32%) other? 5 (20%) Total Members Voted: 25 Voting closed: Apr 17, 2007, 11:06:45 AM

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