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rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 23, 2002, 03:29:02 PM

Its on all pro under about us so far all I can tell is:
Moter: VW flat 4
Axles: way offset 9" front and rear
tranny: Vw i beleve
t case: looks like atlas but with pass side offset f and r
tube frame coils over and crawlers (typical comp rig)wraps it up
does any one know any thing else about this thing?
http://allprooffroad.com/tiny.html

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 23, 2002, 03:44:20 PM

This pic it almost looks like a typical comp crawler exept for the rear monted engine and rear axle.
by the way 600 posts! woo hoo!

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 23, 2002, 03:48:20 PM

Here is a good shot of the rear axle youd think its a toy axle

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 23, 2002, 03:51:42 PM

Here where you can tell ther hi pinon 9" axles the bolts on the pinon end are a dead give away to its make and you know its not a toy because theres a yoke insted of a flange

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 23, 2002, 03:53:39 PM

Heres where you can tell its a VW moter

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 23, 2002, 03:58:21 PM

this looks like the hydralic fluid resevoir for Hyd steering

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 23, 2002, 04:01:19 PM

here you can see the tcase and tranny and what looks like another part of the hydrolic system also the single seat configuration

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 23, 2002, 04:06:01 PM

shot of the slick flat belly, this rig looks like it has what it takes to win some compitition

krawlr · October 24, 2002, 06:11:43 AM

That engine cooling fan makes me think it's a Porche engine. Very cool.

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 24, 2002, 11:21:57 AM

or it could be just to keep cool air flowing at the moter while crawling

krawlr · October 24, 2002, 01:22:33 PM

The Porche motor I'm thinking of was air cooled. The Porche fan faced the rear like the one in the pic, VW fans were offset and faced forward.

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · October 25, 2002, 11:31:46 AM

Oh I dont know a whole lot about those moters but I knew it was some thing strange

linkpin · October 29, 2002, 10:22:51 AM

It looks like a vw motor with a porche cooling kit

UP_ROKTOY · October 30, 2002, 09:16:20 AM

i am not too impressed.....quality yes...capable yes...cool...sorta....that to me is not four wheeling or what not...thats a dune buggy or almost an ATV i mean come on...do any of the rigs some of these comp guys build even remotely resemble trucks anymore? not really...am i jealous hell yeah!! but for the most part offroading and fourwheeling to me was cool because you are taking a truck somewhere that is unbeleiveable (sp) i mean anyone can take there dune buggy or their quad through this stuff....its impressive when someones pickup or four runner or jeep or scout or bronco does it
agree or disagree thats my humble opinion

mr4x42u · October 31, 2002, 11:28:01 PM

Looks like porsh,,If you see where the exhaust comes out a normal vw comes stright out there from the head,,That one looks like it comes out the bottom of the head to the flange.Alos by the looks of the bottom of the case and the vies next to the crank pully also does not look vw..The fan is for sure porsh..Hitlers revenge :up: :up:,,Thats why my sandrail is toyota powered..

linkpin · November 02, 2002, 10:26:01 AM

My other hobby is air cooled vws and that motor is a vw. the item below the pulley is called a wet sump it is connected to a oil holding tank.

krawlr · November 02, 2002, 02:51:34 PM

Bus motor maybe? I do remember the Bugs had exh. ports front&rear.

vikingsven · November 03, 2002, 02:46:58 AM

I'm not expert but my .02 says its a VW motor with a Porche fan. I've seen this kind of setup before on sandrails. The porche fan, due to its larger size, provides a whole lot more cooling than the stock VW. No big thing.

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · November 03, 2002, 05:47:54 AM

Im still wonder ing about the exast
i KNOW SOME ONE WHO OWNS A Vw shop and know allot about um Ill show him the pic.

toymachine · November 03, 2002, 08:03:42 AM

I saw that thing at the Supercrawal in farmington a few weeks ago. Im pretty sure it is a porsche motor. Thats what i was told. I have a few pics of it, and like 200 digital pics of the rockcrawl. There on a website. I'll have to get the adress and post it.
As for the whole being a bggy or atv thing......most vehicles there were rock buggy's that you couldn't even tell what they were except for a displayed emblem. I think that it is kind of dumb, and it is cooler to see something you recognize, crawl up something without something like rear weel steering and hydraulics.

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · November 03, 2002, 11:36:15 AM

What was the tranny and tcase in it?

WarPony · November 03, 2002, 11:58:02 AM

this is strange. The bus/ bug motors are the same (Type 1) critter and the one in these pictures is different. They should have an exhust port both front and rear and the one in the picture looks like they both come from the rear. If it does have them in the front and the rear, and we just can tell by the photos, then there is still something wrong. The exhust port to the rear of the vehicle should be visible and is not so some big mods have been done. there are no shots of the intakeso it is kinda hard to guess.

My big question is what type of BFG's are those.

linkpin · November 03, 2002, 12:02:49 PM

It is not a type 1 it is a type 4 vw motor You can get the exhaust from FAT performance. I also wanted to know the tranny so I asked chris at allpro. He said it is a vw motor hook up to a power glide to an atlas tcase. Hope this clears things up.

rEdnECkwHeE1eR · November 03, 2002, 04:50:24 PM

QuoteMy big question is what type of BFG's are those.

The new proto type crawlers. There are one shot of these in almost every 4x4 mag. Crawl out of yur cave

QuoteI also wanted to know the tranny so I asked chris at allpro. He said it is a vw motor hook up to a power glide to an atlas tcase. Hope this clears things up.

When did atlas start making offset front and rear out puts?

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