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86turboyota · « **on:** Apr 27, 2006, 12:16:04 PM »

I cant seem to go more than 2 weeks without replacing parts on one of my toyotas... now my 86 22-re in my 4runner is buring oil... producing a fair amount of smoke when i go slowly downhill...... i have burned about half a quart in 500 miles.... what should i do? How long will this engine last buring oil like this? Do i need to rebuild? What are my options?
Thanks,
Andy

toymech · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 06:40:52 PM »

Do a cylinder leak down test,sounds like a stuck ring or a broken one. Hopefully its just high manifold vacuum sucking oil past the valve stem seals or a worn valve guide= easy common 22re stuff. Good luck. Mike

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 27, 2006, 09:06:05 PM »

Quote from: 86turboyota on Apr 27, 2006, 12:16:04 PM

I cant seem to go more than 2 weeks without replacing parts on one of my toyotas... now my 86 22-re in my 4runner is buring oil... producing a fair amount of smoke when i go slowly downhill...... i have burned about half a quart in 500 miles.... what should i do? How long will this engine last buring oil like this? Do i need to rebuild? What are my options?
Thanks,
Andy

1/2 a qt in 500 miles

ive seen brand new engines burn more oil than that, probably a valve stem seal, no big deal man, dont worry about it

when you burn a quart in 100 miles then its time for some new rings,

no more than you are burning i wouldnt touch a thing

86turboyota · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 28, 2006, 07:20:06 AM »

Quote from: toymech on Apr 27, 2006, 06:40:52 PM

Do a cylinder leak down test,sounds like a stuck ring or a broken one. Hopefully its just high manifold vacuum sucking oil past the valve stem seals or a worn valve guide= easy common 22re stuff. Good luck. Mike

how do i do this test?

86turboyota · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 28, 2006, 07:21:35 AM »

Quote from: 79Coyotefrg on Apr 27, 2006, 09:06:05 PM

1/2 a qt in 500 miles ive seen brand new engines burn more oil than that, probably a valve stem seal, no big deal man, dont worry about it

when you burn a quart in 100 miles then its time for some new rings,

no more than you are burning i wouldnt touch a thing

Is a valve stem seal hard to change out?

86turboyota · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 28, 2006, 07:22:57 AM »

something else that i just remebered to put on here is that it only smokes on compression... such as when i go down hill but am not on the gas...

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 28, 2006, 12:55:00 PM »

yea thats just a valve stem seal, well you CAN do it without removing the head, but usually is done when the head is rebuilt

you have to remove the valve spring and retainer and replace the stem seal, not really worth the trouble if ya ask me

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