SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread

Started by SqWADoosh, December 03, 2014, 12:07:54 PM

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SqWADoosh

I also found that said stems air down and up significantly faster than my prior ones.

In other news I've ordered my 25mm upgrade, front range offroad bracket, new calipers, rotors, and seals. My neighbor machined down my ifs hubs for me. So pretty close to tearing into my front axles to do some much needed upgrades.

blackdiamond

Quote from: SqWADoosh on March 29, 2016, 10:38:57 AM
I also found that said stems air down and up significantly faster than my prior ones.

In other news I've ordered my 25mm upgrade, front range offroad bracket, new calipers, rotors, and seals. My neighbor machined down my ifs hubs for me. So pretty close to tearing into my front axles to do some much needed upgrades.

I'm assuming that the Equal doesn't come out when airing down?  I wonder how much a person might hear/feel it on a more passenger style tire.  I'm sure you couldn't hear rocks in your tires and mine are not too far behind.

Hopefully, you'll have the steering issue isolated/resolved before tearing into the knuckles again so that you don't add any additional variables into the mix.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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SqWADoosh

Quote from: blackdiamond on March 29, 2016, 11:30:32 AM
I'm assuming that the Equal doesn't come out when airing down?  I wonder how much a person might hear/feel it on a more passenger style tire.  I'm sure you couldn't hear rocks in your tires and mine are not too far behind.

Hopefully, you'll have the steering issue isolated/resolved before tearing into the knuckles again so that you don't add any additional variables into the mix.

They are already a variable as the problem arose after installing knuckle studs.

blackdiamond

Quote from: SqWADoosh on March 29, 2016, 11:33:42 AM
They are already a variable as the problem arose after installing knuckle studs.

Does the upgrade replace the ARP studs with bolts?
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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SqWADoosh

Quote from: blackdiamond on March 29, 2016, 11:42:30 AM
Does the upgrade replace the ARP studs with bolts?

No it replaces the bottom studs with bolts. Those are not part of arp upgrade.

blackdiamond

Quote from: SqWADoosh on March 29, 2016, 11:33:42 AM
They are already a variable as the problem arose after installing knuckle studs.

Until you completely resolve the steering issue I would agree that the knuckles are still on the list of suspects, though I'd be surprised if they were the cause, but what you don't want to do is resolve the steering issue and not realize it because the upgrade created a similar symptom in a different component.  Nobody expects upgrades to not go well and the 25mm is a great upgrade, but if I were you I'd at least get the steering box isolated and see where you're at before tearing into the knuckles again.  The timing of things may make this the natural way of doing things anyways.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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OVRAROK

Quote from: SqWADoosh on March 29, 2016, 07:25:42 AM
Plenty of people running atf. Toyota gear boxes require it or else they take a dump.

have you changed out your box before, I was just reading in the 3rz knowledge, that you where flushing power steering fluid out, and putting atf in. maybe seals are bad if you havent
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SqWADoosh

Quote from: ovrarok on March 29, 2016, 12:12:52 PM
have you changed out your box before, I was just reading in the 3rz knowledge, that you where flushing power steering fluid out, and putting atf in. maybe seals are bad if you havent

Yes there was indeed some ps fluid in there before. I think the box is the likely problem too.

OVRAROK

Quote from: SqWADoosh on March 29, 2016, 12:32:35 PM
Yes there was indeed some ps fluid in there before. I think the box is the likely problem too.

edelmann 8846, that's the brand and part number for 86-89 ifs steering box rebuild kit. 26.40 at amazon
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SqWADoosh

Quote from: ovrarok on March 29, 2016, 12:38:32 PM
edelmann 8846, that's the brand and part number for 86-89 ifs steering box rebuild kit. 26.40 at amazon

Yeah that'll be a project for another time. If the box is the problem I'll be ordering a psc replacement.

OVRAROK

Quote from: SqWADoosh on March 29, 2016, 12:53:38 PM
Yeah that'll be a project for another time. If the box is the problem I'll be ordering a psc replacement.

I didn't know psc sold just the steering box, only kit I can find is the psc sk900, which is a kit. which is currently out of stock
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zippo

I might fix the steering before changing something else
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SqWADoosh

3 week lead time for psc box. So much for that out.

OVRAROK

Quote from: SqWADoosh on March 30, 2016, 10:25:01 AM
3 week lead time for psc box. So much for that out.

rebuild it, takes about an 1-1 1/2 hours, if you take your time
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jangelfire

I have a rebuilt box drilled and tapped for assist.id be willing to send it to you and if it works, send me a hundo.the guy I bought it from said the restrict or plate is not drilled out so you'd have to do that.lemme know.i went to full hydro so don't need it


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mudmaster

Still no caps to remove the ram? Is there a problem with going without hydro? If not we can rob my box for now if needed.
Time to go wheelin!

blackdiamond

Quote from: mudmaster on March 30, 2016, 10:41:23 AM
Still no caps to remove the ram? Is there a problem with going without hydro? If not we can rob my box for now if needed.

I think the parts are supposed to be delivered today.  Very generous offer!
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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SqWADoosh

Quote from: jangelfire on March 30, 2016, 10:40:49 AM
I have a rebuilt box drilled and tapped for assist.id be willing to send it to you and if it works, send me a hundo.the guy I bought it from said the restrict or plate is not drilled out so you'd have to do that.lemme know.i went to full hydro so don't need it


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Never heard of any restrictor plate on the box that needs drilling out. I've heard of it on the pump?  :think:

jangelfire

Quote from: SqWADoosh on March 30, 2016, 11:14:32 AM
Never heard of any restrictor plate on the box that needs drilling out. I've heard of it on the pump?  :think:
Well there you have it.for some reason when I was gathering parts to do assist, I thought I read about one on the box.i went full hydro because I kept cracking the frame.anyways, I have this box all freshly rebuilt and painted if ya want it.

SqWADoosh

Absolutely I do. What was it drilled to? 1/4 npt?

jangelfire

Quote from: SqWADoosh on March 30, 2016, 11:47:54 AM
Absolutely I do. What was it drilled to? 1/4 npt?
Lemme go dig it out and I'll post some pics.standby

jangelfire








So I'm gonna say it's 3/8"npt


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SqWADoosh

That looks great. PM me your number please.

SqWADoosh

Well I've had a very sporadic issue of going to start my truck and nothing happening. First it was every 3-6 months. It has become more and more frequent in the last 6 months and finally came to a head the last few days. The first was last Friday when I missed work due to it. Then yesterday as I went to leave work it was dead again. Usually it would simply be a matter of giving it 20-30 minutes and then it would start (dead spot on the starter). However this last time that didn't work and I had to have a buddy throw a tow strap on his truck and tow me in neutral then throw the truck in gear and turn the ignition on to pop start the truck. So I decided enough was enough and went and sprung for a new starter.


blackdiamond

Glad it's fixed.  Anything else that we don't know about?  :dunno:
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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Rockcrawlintoy

It is a super common issue. Tapping the starter with a hammer will usually work as well
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blackdiamond

1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

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SqWADoosh

Quote from: RockcrawlinJK on March 30, 2016, 08:10:10 PM
It is a super common issue. Tapping the starter with a hammer will usually work as well

That never worked to fix the issue. The only thing that was working was time. Like I said that stopped working too though.

Quote from: blackdiamond on March 30, 2016, 08:07:01 PM
Glad it's fixed.  Anything else that we don't know about?  :dunno:

Work party not this weekend but next to get everything squared away.

blackdiamond

Quote from: blackdiamond on March 30, 2016, 08:21:14 PM
The rollover quote I emailed you today came from the 2014 version of this:

https://issuu.com/rr4w/docs/easter-jeep-safari-2016-b/7?e=6618542/33709600


This looks to be essentially identical to the 2014 one I found earlier today.  They must mostly just change the adds.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved