Tow rig Poll!

[Willy Mammoth]

Those are cool because you could get your fuel for free. Bio Diesel, Restaurants pay to get rid of thier old cooking oil.

[alwayzbroken]

Thats all Bio Diesel is? Please explain.

[freds40]

I'm actually looking into doing bio on my truck. I can hold 152 gallons full and @ $.75 a gallon it's well worth it. Also I'd get the wonderful of deep fried food following me around. 

[Lady Di]

Coyotefrg asked me to resize and post these..."can you imagine 28 liters of cummins power"? 

[Willy Mammoth]

I don't know all the info, but it should be easy to do so long as you use a liquid oil and filter it real good. You can use shortning to, but you have to keep it hot so it will flow. Here is a thread on this. http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343864

[alwayzbroken]

cool.

[brainlessfool]

DODGE sucks ya can't keep a tranny in one and the resale sux you cant give it away when you get tired of it. NO :bull crap:

Awww around here there like gold on the used lot.  no  :bull crap:

[alwayzbroken]

Awww around here there like gold on the used lot. no :bull crap:

Very true, you can't get a cummins for less than 7 grand in any condition as long as it runs decent and moves in my area. Too many farmers that buy these things up and compounded with the fact that they are fairly rare used since nobody sells them cuz there is no reason to get rid of one!

[freds40]

 Alright, now that I have a minute I can delve into Bio. Bio can come from basically any organic oil, vegetable, olive, peanut, etc. You can buy the stuff off the shelf and use but that is obviously not cost effective. There are 3 methods for running Bio in your truck.
  The first is the easiest but is localized. Some areas of the country actually sell bio at the pump. They sell it as B20 and B50. B20 is 80% #2 diesel mixed with 20% bio. B50 is 50% #2 Diesel and 50% bio. Again this is the easiest but is the most costly as the manufacturers are not recycling organic oils, they are actually growing the materials that are used to make the oil, then refining it, and finally blending the #2 and the bio.
  The next 2 rely on aquiring used fry oil from fast food joints. They usually throw this stuff away or pay a company to haul it away. Because of this, you can usually get your oil supply for free.
  The second is not as easy but after the initial setup is quite effortless. With this setup, you basically strain the larger material out of the used fry grease and dump it in your fuel tank. This stuff is still quite thick so you actually have to have a secondary tank of #2 on the truck for start up and shut down. You start the truck on #2 diesel and while it is running, a heater in the bio tank brings the material up to a more viscous state, after the initial run time (say 10 mins.) you switch to your bio tank and run straight bio. Now when you shut down, you need to switch the system back over to #2 as the fry oil will gum stuff up if you shut the truck down and it cools inside the lines and the fuel system. So you just run #2 through the system for say 5 mins. and the system is then ready to shut down.
The last is a little time consuming to prepare but requires no effort once in the fuel tank.With this method, you dump the "cleaned" fry oil into a barrel. You then add a couple of chemicals (can't remember which but easily attainable), mix consistantly (an attachment on a drill works) for an hour and then let it sit for I believe 24 hrs. When the time is up, you will have a layer of fuel oil and also a thinner layer of the bi products which since we're dealing with organics, makes a great fertilizer. IIRC it's nitrogen. Then you take the fuel oil and dump it in your trucks fuel tan and run it, done deal. Doing it this way, with the cost of the chemicals, fuel averages out to about $.75 a gallon.
   Now Bio has gotten a bad wrap with a few crowds. Some say "as soon as I started running it my truck acted like it lost fuel." Well it probably did. Bio acts like a cleaning agent and actually cleans your fuel system. It is recommended to replace your fuel filters a couple of times in the first month of running BIO because it will clean all kinds of crud out of your system and will eventually cause fuel filter blockage.Some say running bio will kill your fuel lines on the older trucks. In actuality, it will deteriorate the lines in roughly 3-5 yrs. My thought is, if you can't afford to replace your fuel lines (what maybe $10 in rubber line from NAPA) then stay with B20. Bottom line, I plan on searching out some free fry oil in the next couple of weeks as it looks like fuel prices are going to climb substntially.

[FATB0Y]

I don't know all the info, but it should be easy to do so long as you use a liquid oil and filter it real good. You can use shortening to, but you have to keep it hot so it will flow. Here is a thread on this. http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343864

That was awesome I read the whole thing sound like a good idea how about hydraulic fluid

[Lady Di]

way too many words. I hope Mr W read it!

[alwayzbroken]

Here is the only Super Duty I would drive. Or at least parts of a Super Duty.

[Lady Di]

ROCKIN'

[dj]

got a 66 chevy heavy half, 283 high torque, built back to factory specs, 2bbl carb 4 speed posi trac. looks like it belongs in a junkyard, runs like it just rolled off the showroom going to try to pull 2 trucks to Disney on the 19, Never pulled a gooseneck with it before, I hope it will pull it, it will pull one truck as fast as you are willing to take it. have been clocked over 120 before when truck was empty.
can u say deathtrap?

[FIREBALL]

Damn, that's a high dollar trail rig.
Here's my little hauler set up.

[BLUCRUZ]

I saw you when you pulled into the nv4wd show, Nice setup Jason
I'm going to corning to drive 1 this weekend

[FATB0Y]

I saw you when you pulled into the nv4wd show, Nice setup Jason
I'm going to corning to drive 1 this weekend

I see you are going to go and drive a real truck

[BLUCRUZ]

Ok went to drive a superduty Sunday Morning, Went for drive with the Salesdick and got 2 blocks away from the dealership and the computer shut the truck down. I've never seen so many lights come on a dash before. Anyway another sales guy came out with a different truck and we went on our test drive. I really like the superduty-rides nice & quite inside. I have no idea what happened to the 1st truck but it just started sputtering and then shut itself off? Sales guy tried to tell me the computer must be bad? I was prepared to buy if I found one I really liked but that ended when the truck shut off, too bad for me

[mudguts]

Hey Blu, did ya drive one of these?

[freds40]

I say drive the Ram. Saveing a few grand and a better truck sound like a good combination to me. 

[Lady Di]

I say drive the Ram. Saveing a few grand and a better truck sound like a good combination to me.

I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the engine, did you say saving a few grand for a noisier truck is a good combination? JK (although it really is a loud engine)
You have to be careful with the Superduty. Were you looking at used or new?
When we were shopping for our F350 a year and a half or so ago, we were in the market for about a '99-2000. We had heard some about the 6.0 liter Superduty from one salesthingy touting all the benefits to this new engine.
We went to another dealership, one where we had bought another truck, only to find out from that salesman that there were MAJOR MAJOR problems with the 1999 (or was it 2000) to 2003 6.0 liter superduty's.
They were being lemon lawed right and left to the extent they actually stopped production in 2003 to retool and address all the problems.
Mr Willy did a bunch of research on the Ford Forums, I sure you can do a search and find plenty of info. He can go into more detail about the problems.
If you were looking at new, don't know how much better the 2004-05's are, again, there are plenty of forums out there. YOu know how people love to biatch.
We ended up with an '01 7.3L that has not given us any problems. Here's our setup. See the little door to the left of the people door? Doggie door!

[freds40]

The '05 Cummins trucks are quite tame noise wise. My '97 has 5" from the turbo back as well as many mods to necessitate this exhaust. It sounds like a rig inside if you roll the windows down but you can still carry on a conversation without yelling. My wife's dad just picked up an '05 HO truck (with a little coaxing from me) and the interior is extremely quiet. The guy I bought my truck from has about 550 RWHP in his '04 and his interior is only slightly louder than the '05

[FIREBALL]

03 was the first year of the 6L in the fords. They did have a lot of issues. Reflashes, injectors etc. but it seems they have finally worked out the kinks. The only prob i've had with my 04 is it blew a turbo hose off. Was no big deal, just put it back on and retightened it. The next week I took it into the dealer and they replaced the tube and clamps with a new style.
The 7.3 are a very awesome motor. Very few probs, and easy to tweek a bit too. If you go with the 7.3, get the intercooled version. I think that was in 98, but i'm not positive.

[scheid6996]

ya 7.3's are rock solid!  i have 4, an 89, 91, 94 turbo and a 2000 powerstroke, i like them all, the 2000 is an auto so i hate that part of it, but the power is awsome!

[scheid6996]

and u can do soo much to them,, we but a hudge marine turbo on the 94, stock inlet was 2.5 inch, now its 4inch, way more power on the top end, awsome tow rig

[Lady Di]

and u can do soo much to them,, we but a hudge marine turbo on the 94, stock inlet was 2.5 inch, now its 4inch, way more power on the top end, awsome tow rig

I worked for SuperChips when they were first developing the chip for the powerstroke (has to be 7-8 years ago now). You throw a chip in those baby's and the increase in torque is just insane.

[BLACKDOG]

that bio diesel idea sounds really sweet, hw much does it cost to do the changes necessary to use bio??  I believe CA has a $$ program for those that switch to it, you know, carpool lane pass, som uch money from the state, etc

[red]

the biodiesel does sound damn good, i wonder if they offer it in a smaller inline 4 diesel? i've got a bunch of friends with 03-brand new diesel trucks. so far the dodge has been THE WORST of the 3 with reliability. he's had to put his truck in the shop 4 times in the past 6 months, and not for basic tuneups. chevy's are great in the 1500 series, but if u get any heavier than that they start havin trouble. f350's tho have ALWAYS had a solid drive train and are very reliable with the 7.3 liter. the 6.0 has had alot of trouble, dont know if its any beter nowadays tho. wish toyota would offer their diesel trucks over here in the US.

[freds40]

that bio diesel idea sounds really sweet, hw much does it cost to do the changes necessary to use bio??  I believe CA has a $$ program for those that switch to it, you know, carpool lane pass, som uch money from the state, etc

From what I remember, the on truck tank/heater system can be setup for about $150. Like I said in my other thread, if you brew at home, with the cost of the needed chemicals, it averages out to about $.75 a gallon.

[Hyena]

My dad has a 99 F-250 and it pulls my truck no problem while getting around 14 mpgall around.  my friend has a 2002? Dodge 2500 Cummins and it does pull his toy no problem, but it only gets about 5mpg on average up and down hills.