Tow rig Poll!

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The new Ford's don't have good tranny's.

[Skinny_Pedal]

i dont know if this was said yet, but im not gonna read 4 pages. this is what i know about the duramax. the allison tranny isnt a true allison, a majority of it is still just an izuzu tranny i believe. the motor itself has aluminum heads. from what i know, mercedes was the only company that has done this before with a diesal. this is just some bits and pieces i picked up.

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My personal opinion.....I'd rather be Cummin' than Strokin'

[scheid6996]

hey, i like fords but THATS A GOOD ONE

[79coyotefrg]

My personal opinion.....I'd rather be Cummin' than Strokin'

with thaT avitar i can see why

[freds40]

My dad has a 99 F-250 and it pulls my truck no problem while getting around 14 mpgall around.  my friend has a 2002? Dodge 2500 Cummins and it does pull his toy no problem, but it only gets about 5mpg on average up and down hills.

Not really sure why your buddy is only pulling down 5. i got 15 pulling a 7k truck on my trailer with my '97.

[reklund5]

My old IDI Ford (pre powerstroke) Gets 14-15 mpg draggin the trailer  with the Supra or the Truck on it.  Not too bad for a old '92 Ford...

Ryan

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Our '95 Cummins got 20+ HWY goin' from NC to TX haulin' a '92 X-cab cab and engine there and haulin Rockwell's back! BTW it is a dump truck with a reverse air dam on the flatbed and it had standards on the sides!

[Hyena]

My friend with the 2003? i think, he was pulling my truck up to the Rubicon, going about 40-50 around turns and up and down hills.  I think thats why he was only getting around 5 mpg.

[lilbuddy]

Drove an older Dodge Turbo Cummins yesterday, those are sweet. I still say get those. Take a look at the resale value of all those too. The new dodge cummins are like 600ft/lbs too... I still say get that

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The new Dodge w/ the 6 speed has a 7.something first gear w/ the NV5600

[crawlerdan]

my dads got an 03 dodge 3500 it kicks ass, it would haul anything under the sun, decent gas milage, and is capable of unheard of horsepower pretty easily

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Go see Banks....They can make that puppy scream!

[BUBBA]

yeah over 1000 lbft of torque just from a few bolt on's

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that is kickin' ass!

[BUBBA]

I am eventually gonna get a dodge,hopefully next year but for now I use my dad's 95 F350.It does well,Last time I went to Summertown TN it averaged about 14 mpg towing a 35' gooseneck with my runner and alot of gear and 4 ppl.

[red]

fords have a really solid reputation, dodge has a GREAT ENGINE but a sorry ass tranny, gm's duramax has some kinks to get out. if u look at some of the older diesels(pre power stroke, the older turbo cummins, and gm's 6.2 liter) then u have some VERY reliable engines with decent to great pulling power and excellent gas mileage. if u want the best gas mileage u would need to get an older gm diesel with the 6.2(its what the military humvee's use still). its definetly not the strongest of the bunch, but our old 88 suburban 1500 had the 6.2 and would tow a 24' boat gettin 23 on highway and 18 around town

[scheid6996]

the GM 6.2 L sucks ass, i have two older mormon haulers with the 6.2 s   they cant pull them selves down a hill if they were being pushed,  now older ford 7.3 naturally asprated it the one for old good reliabillity and power

[BUBBA]

the GM 6.2 L sucks ass, i have two older mormon haulers with the 6.2 s they cant pull them selves down a hill if they were being pushed, now older ford 7.3 naturally asprated it the one for old good reliabillity and power

I agree,every 6.2 and 6.5 I have ever driven wouldn't move out of there own way let alone tow something,and the 7.3's were good as long as they have a turbo,the early non turbo trucks where gutless at highway speeds.

[scheid6996]

i dont no about the erly 7.3 s, i have and 89 7.3, a 94 turbo, and a 2000 powerstroke, and the 89 7.3 does not have a turbo,  but its got full exaust and intake, and it pulls my toyota jus fine up the pass, its got a 5speed

[BUBBA]

i dont no about the erly 7.3 s, i have and 89 7.3, a 94 turbo, and a 2000 powerstroke, and the 89 7.3 does not have a turbo, but its got full exaust and intake, and it pulls my toyota jus fine up the pass, its got a 5speed

well the only first hand experience I've had with a non turbo 7.3 was when I worked for a local shop and the wrecker they had was a 89 f350 with 5 speed.I did great on take off but once you got past 3rd gear it would fall on it's face especially when you started up a mountain.I have been told by others that is common so I can't be 100% sure,that's just what I've experienced.

[scheid6996]

ya  the only problem iv had with my 89 7.3  is like up the pass i have  to   shift down to 3rd, and that puts me between 3, 000 rmp and 3,500, witch is way to high, and thats at 55mph,  it will never drop below 55 aslong as i piss wind the out of it, but peak HP is about 2,200 to 2,500, and 4th gear is jus to tall,  i need to put some gears in it

[reklund5]

My 92 7.3 is the same way.  It runs outta poop on the freeway with the trailer behind it.  I've got a little package coming from Banks that should cure that tho... 

Ryan

[scheid6996]

myne does fine on the freeway, it will do 80 if i need it to, but its the long hills that it falls on and i have to piss wind it, i have like 175,000 on it, so i dont want to put a turbo on it, its got too many miles now

[79coyotefrg]

175000 on a diesel isnt even broke in good

my neighbor has a little dump truck he uses on his farm , its a ford F7000 and its got like 800,000 on the little 8.2 L cummins , he just replaced the tranny but the engine is still sweet,  if it idles for more than a hour it kinda smokess when he takes off but stops befor he gets a mile up the road,

my boss has a 85 Kenworth with a 14 L cummins thats got 1,350,000 miles,  runs great,  but does need a new injector on #4

your ford should be fine for another 200,000 at least with good maintainance

[FATTshack]

my  , I drove Ford, Chevy, and Dodge when I was shopping for a tow rig.
I carefully weighed each one and came to a decision.
I bought a Tundra. (Remember this is my impression of the trucks, not hard core facts)
these are all comparable Light duty trucks, since I plan on towing 7000 max
Chevy: bad ride, slow, cheap interior.
Ford: to expensive for what you get, and bad ride.
Dodge: build quality is off.. way off

Nissan didn't have the Titan yet

I paid $30,000 for a fully loaded i-Force V8 Tundra w/Leather, class 4 tow package, 130 amp alt. and other good stuff.

[blackdiamond]

I also have a Tundra V8 as a potential tow rig; however, the main reason that I chose it was because it will be used as a car the majority of the time but has the ability to pull the baby toy when needed.  Here was my impression of the other trucks:

2005 F-150: I think that they are ugly and it had horrible performance.  I think it must have had a set of super highway gears since the road tests on the truck say that it should do better.  I was born a Chevy man so even though I think they are all about equal my pride would weep to drive a Ford 

2005 Chevy 1500 (Crew Cab): Truck rode too soft but had good performance.

2005 Dodge 1500 Hemi full time: I was expecting more out of the Hemi, it was quicker than the others, but not by much.

2005 Nissan Armada (Truck wasn't out quite yet): I think the SUV was actually about equal with the Dodge for performance so I would epect that the truck would be impressive.  These truck are ugly and from looking at them now, I think they have too many fancy gadgets that are a waste of money.  I would expect them to be good quality trucks.

2005 Tundra: Great performance, 7/8 size truck (nice for daily driving) and great towing capacity for the occasional pull.  It is one of the quietest auto that I have ever been in, I actually think it is quieter than the Ford (highly advertised).

If you are talking REAL towing, I have heard the most positive stories about the Ford powerstroke, but I have no need for anything that powerful.

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2005 Nissan Armada (Truck wasn't out quite yet): I think the SUV was actually about equal with the Dodge for performance so I would epect that the truck would be impressive.  These truck are ugly and from looking at them now, I think they have too many fancy gadgets that are a waste of money.  I would expect them to be good quality trucks.

Thats my new tow rig.  Its a BEAST for a Nissan... I am going back to CO to get my buggy this weekend w/ it. I figure a 15 hr tow will be a good 'testrun' for it.    I'll keep ya posted.

[scheid6996]

175000 on a diesel isnt even broke in good

my neighbor has a little dump truck he uses on his farm , its a ford F7000 and its got like 800,000 on the little 8.2 L cummins , he just replaced the tranny but the engine is still sweet, if it idles for more than a hour it kinda smokess when he takes off but stops befor he gets a mile up the road,

my boss has a 85 Kenworth with a 14 L cummins thats got 1,350,000 miles, runs great, but does need a new injector on #4

your ford should be fine for another 200,000 at least with good maintainance

true, but its got to many mile to put a turbo on it, the turbo 7.3 have stronger parts and lower compression then the nat trucks, so im not gona put a turbo on

[freds40]

Adding a turbo doesn't mean jack. It's the amount of boost that the turbo produces that can kill a motor. The factory Turbo 7.3s have about 15-20 PSI of boost. If you ran no more than 10, your motor should hold up fine.