Author Topic: Best 22R mods (Read 50774 times)

birfection · « **on:** Nov 15, 2009, 06:05:06 AM »

I have a stock 22R with a 32/36 Weber and headers. What fairly inexpensive mods have you found to make the most difference off-road?

bigarms23 · « **Reply #1 on:** Nov 15, 2009, 06:56:06 PM »

a good breathing free flow exhaust(ie magnaflow cat to a flowmaster muffler) and some headers

kneedownnate · « **Reply #2 on:** Nov 15, 2009, 07:43:32 PM »

Plenty of existing threads on the subject already

Plekto · « **Reply #3 on:** Nov 16, 2009, 07:25:05 PM »

That's about as well, really. The thing is that most mods add 2-3% more power, which can be noticeable in a big engine, but with ~120HP to begin with, jumping to, say 125HP(joy!) won't be a blip in actual use. So most people just do exhaust and a header and call it a day. Anything more and you should just drop a 3RZ in the thing and get some REAL power.

fade · « **Reply #4 on:** Nov 16, 2009, 07:36:01 PM »

Probably a 3rz swap would be the best. Or going to efi if you wanna stay clear of the motor swap. Just a good header(pacesetter or headman are cheaper and flow good). and a flowmaster. Make sure you have a good set of plugs, cap and rotor, wires, fuel filter and change the trans and gear oils should run almost like a new truck.

fade · « **Reply #5 on:** Nov 16, 2009, 07:37:21 PM »

Also question. He has a 22r why is every one saying headers? Am I missing something here? I thought the motor is only a 4cly and has 1 header/manifold?

kneedownnate · « **Reply #6 on:** Nov 16, 2009, 11:40:25 PM »

Quote from: fade on Nov 16, 2009, 07:37:21 PM

Also question. He has a 22r why is every one saying headers? Am I missing something here? I thought the motor is only a 4cly and has 1 header/manifold?

I typed that but changed my mind before posting, good call though

fade · « **Reply #7 on:** Nov 17, 2009, 12:21:25 AM »

I'm not tryin to be rude with that. I'm just saying. If we wanna help people out lets get them on the right track so when he goes to a shop or calls some one to buy mods hes not using bad wording to look like a tool and maybe get taken advantage of? I know in my ricer days I used to laugh at kids who would say my civic has headers, dual exhaust and vtech stickers on it. Now besides that lets get him on the right track.

zippo · « **Reply #8 on:** Nov 17, 2009, 02:43:51 AM »

A good CAM swap would help, also give you more/different power at different RPM ranges. Also taking all the pollution crap off can help, If it is a off-road only rig. Switching to an electric fan is a huge power adder for a 4-banger. After you do the cam swap, you might could go with some bigger jets and put a header/exhaust on it. And lets not forget a high flow air filter "K&N". In the end i doubt you break 150, without doing large/$$ mods.

OR you could get, a Camden Supercharger with, say 8lbs of Boost!!!! that would get her moving! until she blew that is.

83yota · « **Reply #9 on:** Nov 17, 2009, 06:21:19 AM »

ok i have spoken with le engineering and they told me without chaning the computer 150 is the max you can get out of the 22re. the computer wont allow for enough fuel to go over that. But i agree on the cam. But how much are you looking to spend. I am not sure there is one mod that I would say over another because a lot of them work together.

TacoRunner · « **Reply #10 on:** Nov 17, 2009, 01:11:13 PM »

K&N
Throttle body
LONG TUBE headers
Full exhaust

Or ditch it and put a 3RZ in.

Unless you are lucky enough to have purchased someone elses rebuilt engine. All to many 22re's have to many miles on them, 3RZ is the way to go.

Of course I am biased.

kneedownnate · « **Reply #11 on:** Nov 17, 2009, 07:22:04 PM »

Quote from: TacoRunner on Nov 17, 2009, 01:11:13 PM

Throttle body

Quote from: birfection on Nov 15, 2009, 06:05:06 AM

I have a stock 22R with a 32/36 Weber

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #12 on:** Nov 17, 2009, 09:18:08 PM »

3RZ

a used 3RZ might give 150hp, and is a

load of wiring to install, yea its cool and has fuel injection but before my engine crapped out (it will live again VERY soon) not only could i out pull a tacoma on a long steep hill climb but could take off faster as well.

is my 22R stock

oh HELL no, after extensive measuring and calculating and the use of "desk top dyno" my 22R is said to have 180 hp, thats at the flywheel apparently but

headman or pace setter has a CRAPPY shorty style header for the 22R that does nothing over the stock exhaust manifold, get a long tube, LCE or Thorley header, opened to 2 1/4 inch tube all the way back
3236 is a great little carb (use what ya got),
at this point if you have good compression you should be 125-130 ish, drop a LCEngineering cam in and you'll see much more

Quote from: Plekto on Nov 16, 2009, 07:25:05 PM

That's about as well, really. The thing is that most mods add 2-3% more power, which can be noticeable in a big engine, but with ~120HP to begin with, jumping to, say 125HP(joy!) won't be a blip in actual use. So most people just do exhaust and a header and call it a day. Anything more and you should just drop a 3RZ in the thing and get some REAL power.

thats why "most people" dont get anything out of their 22R

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #13 on:** Nov 17, 2009, 09:27:08 PM »

i'd love to get my hands on a 3rz and do to it what ive done to 22R's

like these guys, insanely big turbo, dry ice intercooler and 785 hp

TacoRunner · « **Reply #14 on:** Nov 18, 2009, 10:37:07 AM »

Quote from: kneedownnate on Nov 17, 2009, 07:22:04 PM

Well now, thats your first problem, you need a throttle body and everything will be better.

83yota · « **Reply #15 on:** Nov 18, 2009, 01:44:25 PM »

well if all of you would switch to re my advice would make sence. :O

kneedownnate · « **Reply #16 on:** Nov 18, 2009, 03:14:26 PM »

Quote from: TacoRunner on Nov 18, 2009, 10:37:07 AM

Well now, thats your first problem, you need a throttle body and everything will be better.

I have 2, but the original poster has a carb

birfection · « **Reply #17 on:** Nov 19, 2009, 07:20:01 PM »

Coyotefrg, you said you got 180 hp out of your 22r. What mods did you do? Did you go with the 20R head/ manifold?

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #18 on:** Nov 19, 2009, 08:22:21 PM »

Quote from: birfection on Nov 19, 2009, 07:20:01 PM

Coyotefrg, you said you got 180 hp out of your 22r. What mods did you do? Did you go with the 20R head/ manifold?

no, i had a 20R head on a couple years ago till i broke an exhaust valve at 7200 rpm

now?
custom crank fully deburred and turned for 91mm stroke, 93.5mm bore, and entire bottom end was balanced,(including pistons) head was ported heavily, as well as the intake, to get as much of a free flow as possible (most of the 'swirl' was removed) as well as all sharp edges in combustion chamber were smoothed down to prevent hot spots for detonation, LCEngineering Stage II race cam (.460 lift, 290* duration) exhaust side was opened up to a full 1 1/2 inches inside diameter, egr port tubes on exhaust side were removed tapped and plugged. this flowed into a old LC 4 into 1 long tube header with open 2 1/4 exhaust

a few things were done that i can show you but its hard to explain here. but basically if it doesnt sound like a nascar its not gonna perform like one

Farace1979 · « **Reply #19 on:** Nov 20, 2009, 07:16:54 PM »

well hate to cut off but what do yall think is a good sounding muffler (exhaust) for a carbed 22R??

kneedownnate · « **Reply #20 on:** Nov 20, 2009, 11:19:26 PM »

Depends on diameter, whether you have a manifold or header, whether the header is 4 into 1 or tri-y, etc. I like the way a glasspack sounds on them myself.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #21 on:** Nov 21, 2009, 08:48:34 AM »

glass pack, "if you cant see thru it throw it out"

XtremeMP · « **Reply #22 on:** Nov 22, 2009, 05:59:58 AM »

I was running a 22r and the best mods that I used that were fairly cheap was the weber carb, headers to full exhaust( let er' breath) and D.U.I distributor got em all at LC Engineering.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #23 on:** Nov 22, 2009, 08:58:05 AM »

Trying to get horsepower out of a 22r is retarded. It is a long stroke tractor engine designed to have a nice thick torque curve. Webber, crawler/mid range cam and a long tube header with free flowing exhaust will get you a nicer performing engine. If you want more than that sure you can spend a recockulous amount of cash and still be under 200 hp or do an engine swap.

79coyotefrg · « **Reply #24 on:** Nov 22, 2009, 09:21:04 AM »

Quote from: XtremeMP on Nov 22, 2009, 05:59:58 AM

I was running a 22r and the best mods that I used that were fairly cheap was the weber carb, headers to full exhaust( let er' breath) and D.U.I distributor got em all at LC Engineering.

you didnt get a cam ??

silly man

I can tell you a secret about the distributor but i dont want to give up all my secrets

Quote from: WHITE_TRASH on Nov 22, 2009, 08:58:05 AM

Trying to get horsepower out of a 22r is retarded. It is a long stroke tractor engine designed to have a nice thick torque curve. Webber, crawler/mid range cam and a long tube header with free flowing exhaust will get you a nicer performing engine. If you want more than that sure you can spend a recockulous amount of cash and still be under 200 hp or do an engine swap.

or do 99% of the porting and assembly yourself

joey0712 · « **Reply #25 on:** Nov 22, 2009, 08:28:45 PM »

I run a 50hp dry shot of nitrous on my 22re. I got it just for fun but it works really good i have gone threw 30 pounds of n2o without any problems. I want to put smaller tires on it and see how it takes off. It still pulls pretty hard with 38s and 4.10s.

zippo · « **Reply #26 on:** Nov 22, 2009, 09:37:57 PM »

I agree a 3rz swap is best. look at the HP to $ ratio. I priced the 22re-God motor at about 7-7500 and it wouldn't have been that great.

Camden Supercharger 15Lbs boost
Head ported polished, valves, springs and cam.
Block, Bored, Decked.
ARP everything.
2.5L Stroker with Forged 94MM pistons, Robs and Crank, MLS head gasket
Double Roller Timing chain and cover.
New ECU/Mass Air Flow swap
And a few other things, This is only the PARTS, I was building it!!!

Giving me! about 225-250 Hp. A motor that takes only Premium fuel. And probably not the longest life.

28 dollars a HP.

A 3rz swap, 2Kish at worst giving you 13.33 dollars a HP.

It just comes down to a 22re is really only a 22r with EFI, and a 22r is late 1970's!!!! technology You could easily add a cam and some extras and get close to 200Hp or a TRD supercharger for another 2k and stomp even the 22re-god for only 16 DOLLARS a HP!!!!

PLUS YOU GET A OBDII PORT!

birfection · « **Reply #27 on:** Nov 23, 2009, 04:23:04 PM »

I was really just asking about affordable mods for the 22R that one would realistically add to make the most of whats under the hood without breaking the bank.

85_4RNR · « **Reply #28 on:** Nov 23, 2009, 04:46:49 PM »

Get a Race cam. Just "throw it in" when you do valve seals.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #29 on:** Nov 24, 2009, 01:18:34 PM »

Quote from: birfection on Nov 23, 2009, 04:23:04 PM

I was really just asking about affordable mods for the 22R that one would realistically add to make the most of whats under the hood without breaking the bank.

You missed my first post?

That's a good solid way to get a nice torque curve.

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