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Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« on: Sep 03, 2009, 08:37:10 AM »
Obama will have direct access to your children on Sept 8 without you being there.
This commie SOB will stop at nothing to get at our youth. This is bull crap, no telling what the fool will try and pull off. Protect your kids and keep them home on that day!!!!!


This Tuesday Sept. 8th President Obama is planning to address the nation's school children DIRECTLY, through a live internet broadcast at 12 noon. If you do not want Obama to have access to your children to say whatever he wants to them during their school hours without you being there, there are a few things you can do:

-Call the school's principal to find out whether the school was planning to show the speech, and if they are, let the principal know that you feel the role of the school is to educate, not to indoctrinate, and that you do not consent to have your child spoken to directly by any politician or government official, for any reason. Maybe if enough parents call, the school will not show the speech to students.

-If the school is going ahead with plans to show the speech, you can keep your child out of school that day.

-You can write up a consent form that would allow a parent of your choice, in your community, to remove your child (and all other children whose parents consent to it) from the area where the speech is being broadcast, and for that period of time, engage the children in some alternate educational activity, such as reading the text of the Constitution, for example.

Here is the government website, with details of the event:
http://www.ed.gov/index.jhtml

and a letter from Education Secretary Arne Duncan to School Principals, encouraging them to broadcast the speech, and to accompany it with other activities promoting the same agenda:
http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html
[Check out the suggested activities that are meant to accompany the speech-- I think the intention is for schools to make this a day-long event in honor of the President]

The ostensible message that students should work hard to educate themselves may seem relatively benign, but the insidious subtext is that you should work hard not for yourself and your own individual happiness, but for the country, society, the state-- to make America more competitive in the world, to raise standards of living (through redistribution, presumably) for all Americans, etc... I personally don't want my children to grow up believing that they exist to serve the state, that it is somehow normal to think this way.

But fundamentally, it doesn't really matter what it is that Obama is planning to tell American children on Tuesday. What does matter is that it is totally inappropriate for him to be addressing children directly at a time when they are away from their parents, and a captive audience in their classrooms. State indoctrination of children is a hallmark of totalitarian government. Don't let it happen here.


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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #1 on: Sep 03, 2009, 08:48:18 AM »
That is messed up.. thanks for the info!

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #2 on: Sep 03, 2009, 09:41:15 AM »
Wow.... good to know - thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #3 on: Sep 03, 2009, 10:01:56 AM »
Found this.. in addition..  pretty messed up..
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108707

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #4 on: Sep 03, 2009, 11:38:10 AM »
Yes it is sad and messed up.
This is beginning to sound like the Nazi youth movement, get the kids minds while they are young and impressionable. If I had school aged kids ,mine are all grown, I'd be wild with anger over this crap. If you are a young parent and not aware of what took place in Germany prior to the outbreak of WW2 do a search on hitler youth movement, very frightening indeed.

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #5 on: Sep 03, 2009, 11:48:04 AM »
i dont think well have much to worry about, anybody out there with kids think about how good your kids listen. Unless they got hannah montana, or the jonas bros, or some hip hop star giving the address its goin in one ear out the other.

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #6 on: Sep 03, 2009, 11:51:48 AM »
Yeah, next he'll be trying to lower the voting age to 16.

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #7 on: Sep 03, 2009, 11:57:17 AM »
I do have young kids in school.. so I got the principles email this morning, and I'm working on writing her about this subject, as well as swine flu, and standard flu vaccinations... kinda scary having young kids in this time of the world... Got to raise them in the truth though! God is in Control!

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #8 on: Sep 03, 2009, 12:52:15 PM »
i dont think well have much to worry about, anybody out there with kids think about how good your kids listen. Unless they got hannah montana, or the jonas bros, or some hip hop star giving the address its goin in one ear out the other.

Unfortunately, I have to disagree. Kids want to act grown up before their time, so they're going to do the 'grown up' thing when it comes to this. Matt's daughter for instance would come home bragging about how she did the 'grown up' thing and pledged her life to Obama. No thanks!!! :nonono:
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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #9 on: Sep 03, 2009, 12:58:33 PM »
Bush was way worse, so don't get all in a tizzy.  Under the "No Child Left Behind Act", that Bush put into affect, the government had direct access to your childs files at school.  And they were using those files to profile your children to see who were very good candidates for going into military, but I didn't hear all of you bitching about that!!  It's ok for our government to profile your kids for military action, but it's not ok for Obama to tell your kids to do their best in school.  :shake_head:  

(If you feel that I'm wrong about the "No Child Left Behind Act" go talk to your childs teacher, I've yet to find a teacher that agrees with it.  It has good merits, but gives the fed government too much access to your childs background.  And no funding.  Also, why do you think that the US Military sponsors all the violent video games based on military action.)
  

So, tell me what is so wrong with Pres. Obama telling your kids that they can be the best that they can be, by challenging them to learn?  To leave their environment a little better than they found it.  Rise to the challenge!  Be responsible for our actions!  And that no dream or hope is out of reach!!  Maybe you ought to go to your childs school and watch the video with them.  Don't worry about your kids pledging anything, cause they don't do the pledge of allegiance anymore, due to religious aspects.  And kids will forget about this a week later. 

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #10 on: Sep 03, 2009, 01:12:52 PM »
Unfortunately, I have to disagree. Kids want to act grown up before their time, so they're going to do the 'grown up' thing when it comes to this. Matt's daughter for instance would come home bragging about how she did the 'grown up' thing and pledged her life to Obama. No thanks!!! :nonono:
ya right right obama will be yacking about bs   and the kids will be thinking about :phone:  :blah: :psss: :driving: :beer: :ladys-man: :love: :rara: :bling: :boozer:






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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #11 on: Sep 03, 2009, 01:14:53 PM »
Bush was way worse, so don't get all in a tizzy.  Under the "No Child Left Behind Act", that Bush put into affect, the government had direct access to your childs files at school.  And they were using those files to profile your children to see who were very good candidates for going into military, but I didn't hear all of you pregnant doging about that!!  It's ok for our government to profile your kids for military action, but it's not ok for Obama to tell your kids to do their best in school.  :shake_head:  

(If you feel that I'm wrong about the "No Child Left Behind Act" go talk to your childs teacher, I've yet to find a teacher that agrees with it.  It has good merits, but gives the fed government too much access to your childs background.  And no funding.  Also, why do you think that the US Military sponsors all the violent video games based on military action.)
  

So, tell me what is so wrong with Pres. Obama telling your kids that they can be the best that they can be, by challenging them to learn?  To leave their environment a little better than they found it.  Rise to the challenge!  Be responsible for our actions!  And that no dream or hope is out of reach!!  Maybe you ought to go to your childs school and watch the video with them.  Don't worry about your kids pledging anything, cause they don't do the pledge of allegiance anymore, due to religious aspects.  And kids will forget about this a week later.  

Ok, I'm done ranting.  

I'm going to argue this because Obama is already way worse than Bush was.. and the real issue is that since its soooo bad right now and heading towards worse, that people are beginning to wake up and actually take an interest to whats really going on,... if you could see the whole picture then this wouldn't be a simple issue of Obama telling your kids to do better! I don't want my kids getting political propaganda from any one but me.. that's the benefit of them being my kids.. I can teach them my personal views not some other idiot working towards a one world government and a eugenics program that would scare the crap out of you...

Maybe instead of giving people crap for actually waking up and taking interest you should be more supportive..  and if you really think the agenda is just to tell the kids to do better, then maybe you need to wake up!

Sorry,... religion and politics are two very passionate subjects of mine!

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #12 on: Sep 03, 2009, 01:27:16 PM »
ya right right obama will be yacking about bs   and the kids will be thinking about :phone:  :blah: :psss: :driving: :beer: :ladys-man: :love: :rara: :bling: :boozer:







Do you have kids in school?? Just wondering. I'm quite sure I can guess how my daughter would react.  :hammerhead:
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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #13 on: Sep 03, 2009, 01:35:11 PM »
 the no child left behind act ''nclb'' was a bill that was sponsored by the late Ted Kennedy and passed on may,23 2001 with overwhelming bipartisan support. All bush did was sign it so maybe you should get your facts strait or  :lipsrsealed:
 If you really want this FOOL preaching his socialist views to your children tell them to pay attention in school that day maybe even have them take notes

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #14 on: Sep 03, 2009, 01:37:42 PM »
Do you have kids in school?? Just wondering. I'm quite sure I can guess how my daughter would react.  :hammerhead:
NO IM JUST TALKIN OUT MY  :moon:, CMON  :think:

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #15 on: Sep 03, 2009, 01:43:21 PM »
NO IM JUST TALKIN OUT MY  :moon:, CMON  :think:

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« Reply #16 on: Sep 03, 2009, 01:54:17 PM »
Ohh im calm you must have an awesome daughter

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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #17 on: Sep 03, 2009, 01:57:53 PM »
I like to think I have smart kids and that they are well taught in education.. bible... and some dealings in life.. not much cause they are only 7 and 10..  but I dont want to assume there cant be an outside influence that wont affect what I have already taught them.. or that they are immune to outside ideas..

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« Reply #18 on: Sep 03, 2009, 02:01:28 PM »
i mean iv never met anybody under 25 years old that gave rats  :moon: about what any politician has to say unless its during MTV's ROCK THE VOTE campaign. If your daughter is not that way well then more power to you, you must have some mad parenting skillz

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« Reply #19 on: Sep 03, 2009, 02:33:10 PM »
i mean iv never met anybody under 25 years old that gave rats  :moon: about what any politician has to say unless its during MTV's ROCK THE VOTE campaign. If your daughter is not that way well then more power to you, you must have some mad parenting skillz

Hey man I am 23 and this :pokinit: pisses me off too. In fact, I've been into politics since global warming first got huge around the time of Al Gore's propagandafest to came about, in like 05 or 06, so when I was about 20. There are a lot of us younger generation out here that do give a rats ass. The more I learn about everything the angrier I get. In my Intro to Biology class over the summer I wrote my term paper on Carbon Credits. Don't even get me started on Global warming and carbon credits.
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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #20 on: Sep 03, 2009, 02:33:46 PM »
The ostensible message that students should work hard to educate themselves may seem relatively benign, but the insidious subtext is that you should work hard not for yourself and your own individual happiness, but for the country, society, the state-- to make America more competitive in the world, to raise standards of living (through redistribution, presumably) for all Americans, etc... I personally don't want my children to grow up believing that they exist to serve the state, that it is somehow normal to think this way.
This immediately reminded me of JFK's "Ask not what your country can do for you....  ask what you can do for your country". I survived that, as did many of my generation, without too many deep scars, and most of us never saw the speech as indoctrination of our nation's youth. It was not beamed directly into the schools, but I'm pretty sure it made national TV at the time (can't say for sure, we never had TV when I was a kid).

Children will always be on the receiving end of messages that parents disagree with, and it seems to get worse as time goes on. It is not possible to shield them from the world. Discuss controversial issues with them, tell them how you feel and why. If your point of view makes sense to them, it will sink in. Communicate with them often and encourage them to think and reason for themselves. This will equip them with the mental & emotional tools to deal with speeches, indoctrination attempts, and peer pressure that they will encounter throughout their lives, whether you are there to protect them or not.
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Re: Obama and YOUR kids sept 8
« Reply #21 on: Sep 03, 2009, 02:38:21 PM »
This immediately reminded me of JFK's "Ask not what your country can do for you....  ask what you can do for your country". I survived that, as did many of my generation, without too many deep scars, and most of us never saw the speech as indoctrination of our nation's youth. It was not beamed directly into the schools, but I'm pretty sure it made national TV at the time (can't say for sure, we never had TV when I was a kid).

Children will always be on the receiving end of messages that parents disagree with, and it seems to get worse as time goes on. It is not possible to shield them from the world. Discuss controversial issues with them, tell them how you feel and why. If your point of view makes sense to them, it will sink in. Communicate with them often and encourage them to think and reason for themselves. This will equip them with the mental & emotional tools to deal with speeches, indoctrination attempts, and peer pressure that they will encounter throughout their lives, whether you are there to protect them or not.

The difference is that JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you... ask what you can do for your country"

This is "Ask not what Obama can do for you... ask what you can do for Obama"

Big difference in my opinion.
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« Reply #22 on: Sep 03, 2009, 02:41:22 PM »
Hey man I am 23 and this :pokinit: pisses me off too. In fact, I've been into politics since global warming first got huge around the time of Al Gore's propagandafest to came about, in like 05 or 06, so when I was about 20. There are a lot of us younger generation out here that do give a rats ass. The more I learn about everything the angrier I get. In my Intro to Biology class over the summer I wrote my term paper on Carbon Credits. Don't even get me started on Global warming and carbon credits.
thats great, maybe 25 was an exxageration but you get the point

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« Reply #23 on: Sep 03, 2009, 04:15:17 PM »
The difference is that JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you... ask what you can do for your country"

This is "Ask not what Obama can do for you... ask what you can do for Obama"

Big difference in my opinion.


Well, I was responding to this
The ostensible message that students should work hard to educate themselves may seem relatively benign, but the insidious subtext is that you should work hard not for yourself and your own individual happiness, but for the country, society, the state-- to make America more competitive in the world, to raise standards of living for all Americans, etc.
and I saw similarities to JFK's speech.

I am not presuming to inject Obama's ulterior motives into my observation, though I don't dispute them by any means. I am most certainly not a fan of Mr. Obama.... I'll let it go at that.

And I stand by my statement that parental guidance & open communication is more effective than shielding your kids from messages you don't agree with. They will hear them eventually anyway. Teach your kids to think.
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« Reply #24 on: Sep 03, 2009, 05:41:22 PM »
I just read a bit more about this on another board. Apparently it is not mandatory for schools to broadcast the speech, and some have chosen not to. If parents object, they should contact their school administration and voice their concerns. If enough parents do that, some schools that had been planning on airing it may decide not to, or at least allow students to not hear it at their parents' request. Just a thought...
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« Reply #25 on: Sep 03, 2009, 06:35:02 PM »

And I stand by my statement that parental guidance & open communication is more effective than shielding your kids from messages you don't agree with. They will hear them eventually anyway. Teach your kids to think.


Absolutely.  Growing up, when controversial subjects came to light at school, at church, or at home, my dad took the opportunity to teach me how to debate, how to discuss, and how to have an intelligent conversation with someone who believes differently than you do.




On a side note, for you parents, I believe in CA, an alternative has to be given for this kind of thing.  At my HS, it was usually study hall in the library.
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« Reply #26 on: Sep 03, 2009, 07:12:33 PM »
this was the first story that popped up on my yahoo earlier apparently he's ticked off quite a few people

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« Reply #27 on: Sep 04, 2009, 08:28:34 PM »
First of all...I wouldn't pee up Obama's butt is his guts were on fire...I can't stand the guy. BUT, sitting Presidents have been visiting schools forever. If he sticks to the tried and true message (study hard and find a direction in life) I have no problem with him doing this. The difference between previous Presidential visit and this upcoming visit is...technology, he can access all schools at once. If he deviates from what has been done before...then the gloves come off. I worry more about the liberal pukes in teaching and school administrations than one pep rally from the socialist in chief. Besides...there are soooo many things we NEED to be watching him on...don't let this be a distraction, unless he give us cause.
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« Reply #28 on: Sep 05, 2009, 09:05:30 AM »
For those of you that think that the cable link to obama is ok might want to check out this crap from Utah. Another video they played for thier students. Watch the whole thing and pay close attention to the part about serving the president..
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13249171?_requestid=5883011

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« Reply #29 on: Sep 05, 2009, 11:23:20 AM »
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13249171?_requestid=5883011

Well, if that is what is talked about Tuesday...the gloves will come off. Otherwise, that's just a lefty PSA and they're entitled to their position...outside the classroom.


On another note...are all those people famous? I know I'm out of the loop on pop culture, but I only recognized a 4 or 5 of them.
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