full width

[yota_krawler]

I am thinking about full width, I was thinking about a 44 and a 12 bolt, are they any good? I am NOT running any bigger than a 40. Are they strong enough? I know people say 60s from the start but they are huge. Dont you drag ass everywhere? I am wondering pros, cons, etc. What different axle combos are there? 

[Steve_925]

from what i hear you would need 42" tires with a 60 to get the same clearance as a toyota axle with 37s.

[82 HiLux]

just get some 54" boggers to go with a pair of dana 60s

[yota_krawler]

thats what I thought. I dont want 42s

[yota_krawler]

how about 54s on toy

[82 HiLux]

i cant imagine having tires that are four and a half feet tall. id like a truck with 54s and 500 horsepower that would be FUN

[yota_krawler]

any way lol, has anyone had problems with a 44 12bolt combo?

[bigarms23]

i have a d44/12bolt combo and  run 37s but i did buy a c-clipeliminater for the 12bolt but i havent had any issues

[Steve_925]

ive also heard that a 10 bolt is stronger for off road. i have a friend that runs 10 bolts front and rear. his yota is kinda heavy too and he beats the crap out of it. never has problems

[Birfailed]

I run a 60/14 and yeah I hang up on stuff with aired down 38.5's but I deal with it.  Learn where your diffs are and where the rocks are and you'd be fine.  The benefit of strong axles is complete peace of mind and no fear of gettin stupid with the throttle.  I've seen chromoly 44 axles break.  For all the work why not go 1-ton?  I've dumped alot of money into this hobby and I stand behind my sig.  Go 1 ton from the start.  Especially if your already going through all the trouble of full widths.

[kiyul4130]

heres what i say about the dragging ass. you got big kid axles now, back up and hit it harder if something is in your way. as far as the 12 bolt deal. dont even both with any 10/12 bolt. waste of time.

[yota_krawler]

what about a 60 and a corp14?

I have heard there is good ones, and bad ones. With the 60, I guess its time for more research

[Birfailed]

Just about any 14 bolt that has a 10.5 ring gear and full floating axles.  There is a semi floating 14 out there, don't want that.  I'd shave the lip off it before you hang the axle.  It's easier to work on that way and if you search enough you can find that people have gotten really creative with shaving the 14.  I just made a few cuts with a sawzall and knocked the sharp edge down with a flap disc.  I feel it hit here and there but it hasn't hung me up since I shaved and smoothed it off.  And hell, a 14 bolt is like the same price of a 10 or 12 bolt rear anyways.  And if your budget building then weld up the rear but if you can afford throw a detroit in the rear, 350 bucks.  It's a lunchbox locker but the carrier on a 14 bolt is so massive it won't ever break with a 4cyl.  So you could install it yourself.

[Hyena]

i have seen a 1.3l sami blow apart a stock 44 u-joint on 35's.  ans now breaking cromo outers with 40's.   don't waste your time with them.  go 60's and shave them. 

[Doof]

why dont you wheel your and just keep your axles... there is nothing wrong with them


learn to wheel and then upgrade later on when you have some wheel time and there for you know what your getting into and you also have an idea on what works and what doesnt with lines and how far you can push your

[82 HiLux]

why dont you wheel your and just keep your axles... there is nothing wrong with them

hes got a point...if you arent breaking axle parts all the time, why spend the money for the swap?
fullsizes are badass though..

[iNfErNaL]

why dont you wheel your and just keep your axles... there is nothing wrong with them


learn to wheel and then upgrade later on when you have some wheel time and there for you know what your getting into and you also have an idea on what works and what doesnt with lines and how far you can push your

That's the answer right there  . . . If you decide you still wanna go "full widths" , I wouldn't waste my time on a 44 and a 12 bolt , not very much stonger than Toy axles unles you dump a load of money into them . I would go straight to 60s  , just my   

[snowshreder]

Get A ford 9"...  forget about the 10 or 12 bolt... 

[yota_krawler]

why dont you wheel your and just keep your axles... there is nothing wrong with them


learn to wheel and then upgrade later on when you have some wheel time and there for you know what your getting into and you also have an idea on what works and what doesnt with lines and how far you can push your

I do wheel my . My isnt bad, that is not why I posted this thread.

I am getting a 4runner cuz I am tired of my ext cab. There is no room, its carbed, and just down right sick of my truck.

4runners are alot more top heavy so I was concerned about being too narrow.  

[yota_krawler]

Get A ford 9"...  forget about the 10 or 12 bolt... 

I am not thinking about a 10 or a 12 bolt, I was just wondering about "full width axles" pros, cons, what works, etc!

[yota_krawler]

I wouldn't waste my time on a 44 and a 12 bolt, not very much stonger than Toy axles unles you dump a load of money into them. I would go straight to 60s, just my  

you gotta dump a load of money into toy axles too. Unless you wanna be lame and run a STOCK axle locker in the front on 37s and break constantly.

[82 HiLux]

a 4runner on dana 60s would be baaaaaaaad

[THK Matt]

a full floating 14Corp and front 60 would be BADASS!

[TacoRunner]

[quote

I am getting a 4runner cuz I am tired of my ext cab. There is no room, its carbed, and just down right sick of my truck.

4runners are alot more top heavy so I was concerned about being too narrow.  
[/quote]



To combat that nasty top heavy problem.

Just get a

[Birfailed]

Comin from a guy that runs a corp 14 and a front 60 you'd love it.  I've put my truck waaay sideways, and still drove it out!  I don't have any pics yet since I've been wheelin alone but I aint lyin.  I've been takin some flat out ridiculous lines lately!  The unsprung weight of a corp 14 and 60 is the best thing that's happened to my toyota.  I got more weight down low than up top!  And more axle strength.  All good things in rock crawling.

[Doof]

you gotta dump a load of money into toy axles too. Unless you wanna be lame and run a STOCK axle locker in the front on 37s and break constantly.

no you dont... what 700 tops for the best axles one earth, about 50 for a knuckle gusset, and 30 for dif armor, if you want it.... i run a locker with STOCK axles on 37's and ive only broken ONCE in four very hard runs and i was all throttle all the time... and i broke in a retarded spot that i knew was going to happen and could have been prevented

[Hyena]

you don't need full widths, keep the toyota axles.

[THK Matt]

[quote

I am getting a 4runner cuz I am tired of my ext cab. There is no room, its carbed, and just down right sick of my truck.

4runners are alot more top heavy so I was concerned about being too narrow.  




To combat that nasty top heavy problem.

Just get a

HOLY CRAP!

$1400 bucks though... DAMN

[Thomas P]

dana 44 and 12/14 bolt= poo poo, dont buy those axles for a puny ass 4cyl motor that cant hardly push the piles up the hill, instead of buying them, take that money and buy longs and have super light axles your motor can handle (i know its gonna be street driven) and it will be as strong as a 60, minus the r&p, but you can take the extra money you save from not having to build the gay ass full sized crap and get some cryoed r&p's and be big pimpin, i doubt your 100 HP 22re can faze them, as far as 60's go yeah theyre big and bad but are they practical in your case??


anyways good luck with the runner cuz, and i will post up our pics tomorrow

[Doof]

if you actually did rocks then you maybe think about chromo axles. but there isnt a damn thing at the highlakes other then the waterfall that you would need anything more then stock... take the money for the F/W's and put it towards gas an food and go to the con instead of saying your going to... actually do it when the snow melts


you dont need to waste your 1400 baaaaaucks on axles