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removing torque rod
« on: Feb 01, 2007, 03:08:30 PM »
I have heard about removing the torque rod and using a shock in its place with the stock steering. Has anyone tried this and does it work.
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #1 on: Feb 01, 2007, 03:10:44 PM »
Has anyone tried this and does it work.
yes, they have and yes it does...there's a thread laying around here somewhere :dunno:
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #2 on: Feb 01, 2007, 04:25:06 PM »
Mine removed itself (ripped hole in the frame) Then I just left it out no problems.
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #3 on: Feb 01, 2007, 05:26:48 PM »
I ran my truck without one with just a little brakesteer but after the frist trip around the block I knew what to expect. For a temporary fix just ditch it. I do sugest upgrading to crossover steering though.
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #4 on: Feb 01, 2007, 05:38:08 PM »
if u drive on the street...probably a good idea to have SOMETHING there...and x2 on the highsteer
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #5 on: Feb 01, 2007, 06:13:17 PM »
That is the next stage of evalution after dual cases and alote of money, just wanted to know if the shock inplace of the torque rod worked well enough to try. Running without it at this stage of the game aint happenin, those rard right hand turns at 65 are not good. :scared:
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #6 on: Feb 01, 2007, 06:29:31 PM »
That is the next stage of evalution after dual cases and alote of money, just wanted to know if the shock inplace of the torque rod worked well enough to try. Running without it at this stage of the game aint happenin, those rard right hand turns at 65 are not good. :scared:

In my opinion hysteer will get you home alot more often than dualcases. :shake: I would definately put a good crossover steering setup ahead of duals on any buildup.
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #7 on: Feb 03, 2007, 10:39:07 AM »
Personally I wouldn't bother with the shock. The idea of the torque rod is to keep the axle from rotating forward. The shock will slow it (maybe) but not stop it from rotating. Before I did crossover (in a time long long ago) I extended my torque rod so that it mounted out by the spring hanger. It kept it from having brake steer and I gained somemore travel. But like the other guys said, the best solution is cross over steering.

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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #8 on: Feb 03, 2007, 01:02:39 PM »
but  the shock  HELPS,   i  have a gas charged  shock   it does  move  if  HARD  braking  but not bad

but i WANT  hysteer  :yesnod:
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #9 on: Feb 03, 2007, 01:59:06 PM »
I run without one, and no shock on my DD.  The trick is to let the wheel pull when you brake, don't try to hold it straight, cuz then the truck turns.

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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #10 on: Feb 04, 2007, 08:24:45 AM »
Friday I modified the torque arm to pivot when the suspension cycles, by cutting the arm in half and adding a 3\4 course thread bolt and coupler nut to let it twist as it cycles up and down/ I don't know if it gave me anny more travel or not, I didn't take anny measurements before. But at leased I know its not binding anny more.
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #12 on: Feb 04, 2007, 10:59:24 AM »
So will any shock work? Do I need a specific length?

I plan on doing this, and I want to avoid tons of trial and error.
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #13 on: Feb 04, 2007, 11:13:44 AM »
The trick to adding a shock in place of the torque rod is simple you find the longest shock that will fit so there is very little compression. The reason for using a shock is to allow for extension when the axle cycles down and out, thus allowing for unrestricted travel by the torque rod.

Trust me on this if you don't run a torque rod or a shock and you get into an emergency stop situation you could not only hit something to the left or right but you'll be lucky to not end up on your lid. Sure allowing the steering wheel to slip through your hands as you break works under normal braking but when you are facing hitting some idiot that just pulled out in front of you what is your 1st reaction? White knuckles on the wheel which means you may loose control and if your lucky you may just hit a parked car and at worst you end up in on coming traffic and hit and maybe kill someone.
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #14 on: Feb 04, 2007, 01:19:14 PM »
should a stabilizer shock be used or a regular shock???

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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #15 on: Feb 04, 2007, 01:30:37 PM »
I run without one, and no shock on my DD.  The trick is to let the wheel pull when you brake, don't try to hold it straight, cuz then the truck turns.
i dunno if its just me but that doesnt sound very safe on a DD..... :dunno:
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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #16 on: Feb 04, 2007, 03:52:13 PM »
if you can drive its not an issue.

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Re: removing torque rod
« Reply #17 on: Feb 11, 2007, 11:12:52 AM »
With mine i just cust  a section out of it and welded a 3" nit on one end and treaded rod on the other to give it the ability to twist.. has worked great for 5 years and no falure... Next time i take it out im going to make a quick disconnect for it when out on the trails

 
 
 
 
 

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