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it is an eternal ordinance of God that God restored in the time it was needed. In that time there were hundreds of widow's without any means of supporting themselves due to the fact that their husbands were killed by persecutes of the church. Just like back in the old testament, when polygamy was practiced then, there is a time and a place for every law of God... yes, it is still in the doctrine and Covenants, but it is not practiced by our church now. In the old testament it was a divine law of God for the Jews, but now it's no longer practiced by them either... Any member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints that is practicing this law today is in direct opposition to the Church and the commandments of God, and is not endorsed by the Church in anyway or form!!! The law of sacrificing animals for the forgiveness of sins is also in the old testament and still in the scriptures, does that mean that every Christian still practices it? nope... now let me step off my soap box...
lol... "Stand on the Rock that is Jesus Christ... not a soapbox.. that soapbox is just going to fold underneath you dude" I'm pretty sure that's a fat joke!!!!thanks for your "help" but i'm more than happy with my religion. we're not getting anywhere arguing about it. I'm not gonna change your mind, and you're not gonna change mine. science or history will never prove or disprove ANY religion, mine included.he only reason i'm a Mormon is because i prayed to know if it was true. It's not because of Joseph Smith or Brigham Young said so, or my Bishop, or anyone else... It's because I received my answer from the source. What better way to know if somethings from God than to pray? I received my answer, just as anyone can. This church has blessed me and my family in ways i couldn't have begun to imagined 6 years ago when i joined, and I have Jesus Christ to thank for that. Despite what a lot of people say, we are in fact Christians. We believe in Jesus, and know that it's only through Him that we can receive forgiveness for our sins. So if you wanna believe what you read on websites and in books who's only purpose is to slam our church, thats fine! but to me, the only answers to religious questions come from God himself...
Just because you use the name of Jesus doesn't mean you are christian.. you may have christian qualities but that doesn't make a true christian... look at Jesus Christ for instance.. in the mormon church you believe that he is "a" god, but not "God" in the flesh... you say he was married to multiple women and had children... you say he is the spirit brother of lucifer and so are we... you say his dieing on the cross didn't cover all sins.. sorry but all those points are major points and very far from the Jesus of the Bible...
ok... this is the last post i'm making here. we're getting no where here... you say you were a Mormon before, but this bit of your post makes it clear that you didn't understand Mormon doctrine. We believe Jesus is a God. no if's, and's, or but's. We believe he and God are two different beings, with ONE purpose. not ONE being... just like when Jesus tells the Apostles that they should be one with Jesus just like Jesus and God are one (John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.). does he mean that the apostles and Jesus are to become one being? no. And yes, his atonement covered all sins, but we are not free from all obligation! When he suffered on the cross, and in the garden of Gethsemane it was for every persons sins. however, we have to try to follow his example and continually improve ourselves. we can't just say "Jesus Forgive Me!!!!" and do whatever we want. some effort on our part is required... and no where in Mormon Doctrine will you find anything about Jesus being married (ESPECIALLY to multiple Women!!!!) or having children!!!! maybe he was married maybe he wasn't... the Bible doesn't say anything about it and neither do we!!! and again, i'm not trusting my soul to Joseph Smith... I'm trusting it to God!
thanks for your concern... i guess you'd call me a "temple mormon", because i regularly attend... but "temple mormons" are not some exclusive group within the church... a majority of mormon's are temple goers. and since my conversion i have gone on a mission for the church, so don't assume you know about my church than me... I'm not some ignoramus who rushed into the first religion i could find. and if you think i made a two year commitment like a mission without thinking about it then your sadly mistaken. i've talked to hundreds of ex-mormons or anti-mormons on my mission who have all quoted and said the same things you and i have been arguing about... everything you've brought up i've heard before, and none of it is new...ex-Mormon or not, it makes no difference. Talking to ex-mormons doesn't make me uncomfortable, anyone who approaches me and attacks my belief in God without even knowing me makes me uncomfortable... you have your religion and i have mine, you don't see me coming after your church and trying to use any negative thing about it i could find to convert you. i appreciate your concern for me, but i know what i'm doing, and have seen the hand of the Lord in my life, and i know the church is true. if you have any doctrinal questions as to what we believe i'd be more than happy to answer them... but i believe in my religion and i'm not planning on changing that anytime soon! thanks again...
Lets address doctrine and not make this personal.. somehow the vital info gets overlooked in order to make it into something personal.. and I would rather stick to the info
Hey guys... who cares who's mormon... shut up and wheel.
thanks for the smooch I miss you too !
thanks again, and your right... but i'm not here for religion conversations... i'm here for off roading. chim, if you want to continue the discussion i'd be more than happy to answer any questions you want somewhere else. maybe in email or a message or whatever... but this forum is for off-roading and i'd like to keep it that way...
and that scripture in the Book of Mormon isn't referring to any church in particular, and especially not Christianity (since i conciser myself a Christian)... it's referring to any organization that leads people to sin. and any church that teaches about Christ, and brings them closer to God is the Church of God!!!! So unless your church is teaching people that Satan is good or something, then it's not Satan's church... Mormon's don't hate any other religion. if you find a religion that you're happy with GREAT!!!! that's why God gave us the right to choose in this great nation!
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