I do rocks too. I traded a friend 5 almost new bfg's for some 38 tsl swampers. I like swampers and have even ahve some 39.5 boggers in my shop right now. The new 38's I just got suck a** in the snow I had 2 come off the wheel in 5 feet of each other. I would love to buy some gumbos but Les Schwab said that they are no longer making them and they are discontinuing them at theirl store. Like I said in an earler post he claims that guys say they run as good as the gumbo's once they are sipped and they only have a 3 ply sidewall. The gumbo's have a 2 ply. I've also got a set of some 39.5x15x16 truxus tires that i've run in the snow and they seem to do pretty good. I'm pretty much looking for a tire that will I can use on the road too.