Author Topic: Advise needed from experienced individuals. (Read 6099 times)

Bananaclip · « **on:** May 13, 2015, 02:08:55 PM »

Guys and gals I am building an 84 extended cab that came to me bone stock with a solid running 22r. I just picked up 2 parts trucks a 88 extended cab 22re 5 speed and a 94 extended cab 22re 5 speed. Both trucks run neither have beds.

This is were I need advise. Other than the steering box,rear axle, and engine swap what would you do if you had the 3 trucks listed for your build? Parts used etc. Your advise and knowledge is apriciated.

chim · « **Reply #1 on:** May 13, 2015, 02:59:14 PM »

tough call.. 84 has solid axle.. that's appealing but not fuel injected.. 94 has more room than the others.. Depends on what you are looking to do.. I can tell you I would plan on selling one or two of them to get parts for the one..

Bananaclip · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2015, 03:36:35 PM »

I want to build the 84 and plan on using the solid front axle with the best combination of parts from the 3. I want to build up a solid 22re from the 2 and get rid of the carb.

chim · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2015, 03:40:17 PM »

The just do the straight forward and simplest option.. put the fuel injection from the 88 in the 84... put the 22r back in the 88 and sell it. Either sell the 94 as is since you really don't need anything off of it or rob it for spares (motor, rear axle, drivelines... )

Bananaclip · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2015, 03:57:03 PM »

Thanks chim. I was wondering if any of the 94 engine components or brake components would benefit the my 84?

jimbo74 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2015, 04:19:26 PM »

well, it's 10 years newer... a lot really depends on what conditions things are in.... if you have a built 84 22r, and the 94 has a rod knock, the obviously you probably wont upgrade to a rod knock......

Bananaclip · « **Reply #6 on:** May 13, 2015, 05:11:27 PM »

Yea Jimbo that goes without saying. I plan on going through both 22 re's and building one solid reliable engine. I am new to toy's and didn't know if there was parts like manifolds, throttle bodies, drivetrain, brakes etc from the different models that would be stronger, bigger, beneficial to swap.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 13, 2015, 05:47:51 PM »

the newer 22re stuff off the 94 is better, I am pretty sure....

emsvitil · « **Reply #8 on:** May 13, 2015, 05:50:06 PM »

The 88 (and 94) has the wider rear axle than the 84

I also believe that the 88 has the largest rear drums.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 13, 2015, 06:12:00 PM »

you can also swap from the 84 solid rotors to the later vented rotors on the solid axle

jangelfire · « **Reply #10 on:** May 13, 2015, 08:51:02 PM »

Put the 84 front axle under the 94 and have a newer tighter truck.no pissin around with rewiring the 84 for efi and all the engine crap.sell the 88 and put that money into dual cases.thats where id start.ill be watching the thread however you decide to go.goodluck man!

blackdiamond · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2015, 08:55:26 PM »

Quote from: jangelfire on May 13, 2015, 08:51:02 PM

Put the 84 front axle under the 94 and have a newer tighter truck.no pissin around with rewiring the 84 for efi and all the engine crap.sell the 88 and put that money into dual cases.thats where id start.ill be watching the thread however you decide to go.goodluck man!

I think I might go this route as well. The SAS will result in longer front springs and the front axle can be pushed farther forward than it is on the stock 84.

1985CRAWLER · « **Reply #12 on:** May 13, 2015, 09:42:17 PM »

if u are dead set on building the 84 then before ditching the 94 if its a 4x4 rob the brake master and booster off it. bigger and will benefit over the stock 84 setup.

although if it was me id build the 94. use the 84 for another tcase for duals,axles and whatever else it has of value

Bananaclip · « **Reply #13 on:** May 14, 2015, 01:37:17 PM »

I am set on the 84. I love the second gen body and it has a great frame and solid body to build from. All 3 are 4x4's. I'm going to steal the doors from the 88 for half/ trail doors, fenders, and hood for the same. The 88 has a great frame as well. The 94 has a not so favorable frame and the rear diff is busted. I will be pulling the brake components from the 94. Thanks for the advise 1985

Snowtoy · « **Reply #14 on:** May 14, 2015, 08:40:51 PM »

IIRC, the 3rd gens have a better/longevity transmission.

The '94 fuel injectors have a different impedance than the '88's, not sure about the other electronic components. If it were me, I would pick one year and stick with it for the efi components, and sell the other system for a conversion, if not the entire engine.

The '94's seats will fit in the '84, may have to use a small spacer(1/8-1/4") under the outer rear mounts to level out teh back of the seats.

Bananaclip · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2015, 05:28:37 AM »

Great input snowtoy. If there's anymore info regarding my options let me know guys!

jssgbsn · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2015, 10:54:54 AM »

make the 84 Propane/CNG $Beer Chug\'n$

jangelfire · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2015, 03:11:29 PM »

Put tons under it while youre at it

jangelfire · « **Reply #18 on:** May 16, 2015, 08:03:15 PM »

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98941.msg1102519#msg1102519

Here ya go!

Mudder · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2015, 07:27:19 PM »

FYI, all 88 EFI stuff from front to back will be direct bolt IP I believed. So you can use all the 88 wiring harnesses to swpa your truck and not have to deal with splicing. I know my 89 wiring all hooked up to the 84 stuff even the back lights. Just ended up using the cluster from my 89. 88 should be just as good if not easier

Willard · « **Reply #20 on:** May 28, 2015, 08:49:14 PM »

Like i always say.....how much do you plan on spending? When you start a project like a this you need to kinda have an idea of an end result.....although these builds never end and you will always have something you want to change. Get an idea of the solid platform you want.....honesly if you like the 2nd gen then build it, but keep in mind like was stated before the 94 is alot newer and depending on the condition of the 3 trucks......thats where you decide. I sat on parts for 2 years before i started my build i had a plan and i knew what i wanted. Dont just jump into something without a plan. If it were me i would build the 94.....you have axles. The SAS hanger kit is not that expensive. Then you have the option of axle placement as previously stated.....which is kind of a big deal depending on lift and tire size.......hope that help's my friend. If you have any question shoot em again cowboy.

tallboy · « **Reply #21 on:** May 29, 2015, 06:21:04 AM »

I second the propaning of the 84'. I love the simplicity of my setup! Yes, then use rear out of 94. Sell off the other for parts money

helipilot77 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2015, 07:57:32 AM »

Quote from: tallboy on May 29, 2015, 06:21:04 AM

I second the propaning of the 84'. I love the simplicity of my setup! Yes, then use rear out of 94. Sell off the other for parts money

I agree. I am particularly partial to second gens. My first was an '85 extra cab.

Bananaclip · « **Reply #23 on:** May 29, 2015, 05:42:44 PM »

Thanks for the feedback everyone! I do apriciate the advise. My 84 is the cleanest of the 3 hands down. I bought the 84 first because It was a running daily driver (and I loved it). I then picked up the 88 for a parts truck. The frame and drivetrain is solid but the cab is shot ( no bed ). I had no intentions on buying the 94 until the seller of the 88 text me and offered it up delivered for $250 (why not). The 94 is the roughest of the 3. Frame is fubar, no bed, blown rear diff. The engine and drivetrain is strong and I wanted the steering box, and brake components from it. The 94 has a good cab.

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #24 on:** Jun 09, 2015, 04:27:28 PM »

Run the trans from the 88 w56-b is stronger than the g52 in the 84 and the w56-e from the 94.

Run the rear axle from the 88. The brake booster from the 33rd gen is an upgrade as well. steal the cases and make a dual case setup.

You can also take the hubs from the 88 or 93 as they are wider than the solid axle wheel hubs and will give you a matching stance front and rear with no spacers.

Sounds fun man good Luck!

Bananaclip · « **Reply #25 on:** Jun 10, 2015, 06:10:31 PM »

Awesome advise! So my 84 t- case wouldn't play nice with the 88 or the 94?

84_yota_4wd · « **Reply #26 on:** Jun 11, 2015, 01:35:49 PM »

They will they just need a top shift conversion. I also forgot take the locking hubs off one of the ifs trucks as the dial does not stick out like the 84 dial does, so rocks wont turn it on the trail.

dt75flh · « **Reply #27 on:** Oct 08, 2015, 05:05:09 PM »

Have you made any progress on this?

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