SqWADoosh's 85 Runner Build Thread

[zippo]

I know some people have had problems with the 3rz supercharger. Including BigMike. You also have to run premium fuel, which is at min 30 Cents more a gallon sometimes 40. (my car take premium), and if you run out and put low octane fuel in can cause damage.

Why not get a low buck 92 ish 4runner, 5vz swap, bolt in from a 3.0, SAS. You would be in it maby 10k and have a clean interior and body. Go back to 35's which is enough to run almost anything.

[SqWADoosh]

I know some people have had problems with the 3rz supercharger. Including BigMike. You also have to run premium fuel, which is at min 30 Cents more a gallon sometimes 40. (my car take premium), and if you run out and put low octane fuel in can cause damage.

Why not get a low buck 92 ish 4runner, 5vz swap, bolt in from a 3.0, SAS. You would be in it maby 10k and have a clean interior and body. Go back to 35's which is enough to run almost anything.

2nd gen 4Runners don't interest me. If I'm getting a new truck I'll be getting a 3rd gen 4Runner or more likely a Taco. The one on Pirate I have been seeking has agreed to take 9k for it. Just gotta get the money together now.

[mudmaster]

2nd gen 4Runners don't interest me. If I'm getting a new truck I'll be getting a 3rd gen 4Runner or more likely a Taco. The one on Pirate I have been seeking has agreed to take 9k for it. Just gotta get the money together now.

Taco?

[mudmaster]

It runs, just doesn't move yet.........

[SqWADoosh]

Taco?

Short for Tacoma.

[mudmaster]

I know, I assume it's what you are looking at on Pirate?

[zippo]

I'm finding 3rd gen 4runners on CL all day, 2500-5k 3.4 V6, factory e-locker, AC, clean bodys. Could buy one, SAS for 2k with a built axle. ALLPRO even sells a 3link front kit. 2k for a T-Case and springs in the rear. 1k front and rear bumper, you in it 7500-10k

[SqWADoosh]

I'm finding 3rd gen 4runners on CL all day, 2500-5k 3.4 V6, factory e-locker, AC, clean bodys. Could buy one, SAS for 2k with a built axle. ALLPRO even sells a 3link front kit. 2k for a T-Case and springs in the rear. 1k front and rear bumper, you in it 7500-10k

More like 18k after labor 

[blackdiamond]

Been flip flopping around on keeping my truck or getting an SAS Tacoma. Can't find a good SAS Tacoma for sale that isn't half way across the country. Other thoughts have been creeping in. Like taking my truck up to BC to slacker and toyotafiberglass.com and having him replace my fenders with his fiberglass high clearance ones. Also a supercharger for a 3rz is up for sale locally.... 

Just not been happy with my truck. I think the butchered rear fenders are really making me itch. Really wish I would have gone a different route with those. Also she's been a dog ever since putting the bulls on. Had to use 3rd far too much on the trip over to the east side last weekend. I don't know, I'm just being stupid probably.

I know that I'm the odd man out when it comes to continually building my rig as I went for about 7 years without a single modification, but I'm not really sure what an SAS Tacoma would really do for you other than possibly "scratch the itch" to always be messing with a rig (aka zippo  ).

I think the super long wheelbase of an SAS Tacoma could make things tricky for a lot of the tight WA wheeling.  I think RockcrawlinJK has mentioned something along these lines to me in the recent past.  You know how much I loved the longer wheelbase of my 85 Extended Cab (and Rob's 84 Longbed), but it is possible for the wheelbase to get long enough to create significant issues with maneuverability on tight trails.

The damage that you refer to isn't ideal, but there's always the risk of doing similar damage to any rig on the trails that you seem to have interest in doing.  It would suck to get a new rig and then end up doing some body damage soon after.

The financial (and time) investment that, I assume, would be required to make the transition from the 4Runner to an SAS Tacoma would be significant and that's coming out of your resources that allow for the actual wheeling trips.

When you made the decision to go with the 37 inch Pitbull Rockers you came very close to crossing the line from a street driven rig to one that would benefit from having a tow rig.  You seemed to be pretty happy with the performance on the street with them initially, was that just the excitement of having them?  3rd gear is my friend.  I can pull most grades at 60 mph without pushing the rpm too high.

Finding the right balance between street performance and handling and off road capability is tricky and you could easily be back in the same situation with an SAS Tacoma (or any new rig).  No matter what rig you're building you have to have a goal and an end goal.  There's an almost unavoidable cycle of getting a new rig, building it, overbuilding it, becoming unhappy with the street performance (for a daily) or destroying it (because you have to do crazy stuff to be a challenge) or both, selling, and then repeating.

I know you have been frustrated with  your 4Runner with some of the most recent mods not going smoothly, but don't let that drive a quick decision!  You have a very capable 4Runner!

[mudmaster]

just messin with ya

[zippo]

More like 18k after labor 

You could do a lot of it. Also could part the runner out keeping the axles, t-case. Sell the 3rz, trans, Body/frame. get 2-4k for it. Would pull the costs down.

But I like what blackdiamond said above.

[Rockcrawlintoy]

I know that I'm the odd man out when it comes to continually building my rig as I went for about 7 years without a single modification, but I'm not really sure what an SAS Tacoma would really do for you other than possibly "scratch the itch" to always be messing with a rig (aka zippo  ).

I think the super long wheelbase of an SAS Tacoma could make things tricky for a lot of the tight WA wheeling.  I think RockcrawlinJK has mentioned something along these lines to me in the recent past.  You know how much I loved the longer wheelbase of my 85 Extended Cab (and Rob's 84 Longbed), but it is possible for the wheelbase to get long enough to create significant issues with maneuverability on tight trails.

The damage that you refer to isn't ideal, but there's always the risk of doing similar damage to any rig on the trails that you seem to have interest in doing.  It would suck to get a new rig and then end up doing some body damage soon after.

The financial (and time) investment that, I assume, would be required to make the transition from the 4Runner to an SAS Tacoma would be significant and that's coming out of your resources that allow for the actual wheeling trips.

When you made the decision to go with the 37 inch Pitbull Rockers you came very close to crossing the line from a street driven rig to one that would benefit from having a tow rig.  You seemed to be pretty happy with the performance on the street with them initially, was that just the excitement of having them?  3rd gear is my friend.  I can pull most grades at 60 mph without pushing the rpm too high.

Finding the right balance between street performance and handling and off road capability is tricky and you could easily be back in the same situation with an SAS Tacoma (or any new rig).  No matter what rig you're building you have to have a goal and an end goal.  There's an almost unavoidable cycle of getting a new rig, building it, overbuilding it, becoming unhappy with the street performance (for a daily) or destroying it (because you have to do crazy stuff to be a challenge) or both, selling, and then repeating.

I know you have been frustrated with  your 4Runner with some of the most recent mods not going smoothly, but don't let that drive a quick decision!  You have a very capable 4Runner!

Very good perspective here.

[Mudder]

I'm not sure if this is what you'd want to do, but when not get a second set of street tires? Like some 35 A/T's? Though it means swapping tires to wheel.

[mudmaster]

Or buy a cheap car for a DD?

[H8PVMNT]

These things are a collection of parts.  You have a bunch of really good parts.  If you get bored, re-arrange the parts.

My opinion is to just fix your rear quarters if they bother you, add flop protection for them and get a set of 35s for DD.  It's funny, I never think body damage detracts from anybody else's rig, but I like to keep mine strait and clean if at all possible so I know what you mean. Some things just drive you nuts.

You seem to enjoy building almost as much as wheeling.  As long as you are having fun...

[SqWADoosh]

I know that I'm the odd man out when it comes to continually building my rig as I went for about 7 years without a single modification, but I'm not really sure what an SAS Tacoma would really do for you other than possibly "scratch the itch" to always be messing with a rig (aka zippo  ).

I think the super long wheelbase of an SAS Tacoma could make things tricky for a lot of the tight WA wheeling.  I think RockcrawlinJK has mentioned something along these lines to me in the recent past.  You know how much I loved the longer wheelbase of my 85 Extended Cab (and Rob's 84 Longbed), but it is possible for the wheelbase to get long enough to create significant issues with maneuverability on tight trails.

The damage that you refer to isn't ideal, but there's always the risk of doing similar damage to any rig on the trails that you seem to have interest in doing.  It would suck to get a new rig and then end up doing some body damage soon after.

The financial (and time) investment that, I assume, would be required to make the transition from the 4Runner to an SAS Tacoma would be significant and that's coming out of your resources that allow for the actual wheeling trips.

When you made the decision to go with the 37 inch Pitbull Rockers you came very close to crossing the line from a street driven rig to one that would benefit from having a tow rig.  You seemed to be pretty happy with the performance on the street with them initially, was that just the excitement of having them?  3rd gear is my friend.  I can pull most grades at 60 mph without pushing the rpm too high.

Finding the right balance between street performance and handling and off road capability is tricky and you could easily be back in the same situation with an SAS Tacoma (or any new rig).  No matter what rig you're building you have to have a goal and an end goal.  There's an almost unavoidable cycle of getting a new rig, building it, overbuilding it, becoming unhappy with the street performance (for a daily) or destroying it (because you have to do crazy stuff to be a challenge) or both, selling, and then repeating.

I know you have been frustrated with  your 4Runner with some of the most recent mods not going smoothly, but don't let that drive a quick decision!  You have a very capable 4Runner!

This is what I'm after with it:



Difference being that I plan to take the money from my 4Runner and immediately have the body armored like I should have done with my 4Runner. You are correct I wheel hard and gnarly trails so that will be pivotal in order to keep this truck in good condition. Extra cabs wheel all of our trails without a problem.

This trip this last weekend was the first extended highway trip with a loaded up truck with my pitbulls. That is the difference from my initial thoughts on them. I'm still very happy with them however their weight coupled with a weighted down truck and them being on a 15" rim equates to a little too much 3rd gear on hills for my liking.

Another big reason for me wanting an extra cab is it is what I had before I had my 4Runner and as a 6'5" guy I fit in the truck a lot better. I plan on re-drilling my seat mounts in this new truck so I can fit even better. I also saw how lacking my 4Runner's wheel base is in Moab so that is another driving factor.

I am well aware of how capable my truck is.

[Rockcrawlintoy]

So is your flight booked?

[H8PVMNT]

They brought that truck to a competition we had a few years back.  It was very nice, kind of low.  I like low, but it was very low in person. I can see your reasoning on the 6'4" thing. My 4Runner is tight and I'm only 6'.

[SqWADoosh]

They brought that truck to a competition we had a few years back.  It was very nice, kind of low.  I like low, but it was very low in person. I can see your reasoning on the 6'4" thing. My 4Runner is tight and I'm only 6'.

Low is where you want to go.  I believe this truck is a long travel truck. I was mainly showing the pack rack and how it is kitted out in the back.

[H8PVMNT]

Yes it had a jazzy IFS setup of some sort.  I kind of dug the glass fenders.

[SqWADoosh]

Yes it had a jazzy IFS setup of some sort.  I kind of dug the glass fenders.

You can get even cooler ones for our trucks here: http://toyotafiberglass.com

[blackdiamond]

Low is where you want to go.  I believe this truck is a long travel truck. I was mainly showing the pack rack and how it is kitted out in the back.

Low is great for CG and a long wheelbase is great for climbing, but both can lead to breakover angle and ground clearance issues in really rough terrain. The trail you showed me in Canada looked rough...

[Dingman.]

And having a low rig sucks because you always live on the bumpstops.  Ride quality sucks when that happens.  Id rather be slightly taller with a little more uptravel.

[BigBluePile]

Tacoma's are cool I guess.

It's a fine line, I think, between trail/trailer rig and expeditionary rig.  Like has been mentioned earlier.   

I am bored with mine.  Might even sell it to the right buyer.  Probably why I spend more time building things for others.  I enjoy the projects.  I know that if I go off road there's all ready things I want to change.  Plus, I have better things to spend my money on. 

Anywho, I think you have a pretty sweet setup now but part it out and make some money for the next project. 

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[SqWADoosh]

[blackdiamond]

Does the road officially go through the lake?

[SqWADoosh]

Does the road officially go through the lake?

It is a sand bar that is traversed through.

[mdtrail-toy]

Hope you dont mind throwing a picture up but while not Sas I loved my 01'  Taco. But dont know what it is about driving an older Toyota like the runner you have now but know I'm not the only one who enjoys the old school a little more . I went from a 93' pickup to the Tacoma. Even on 37's it was a great d.d. but after I sold it about 9yrs ago I knew I wanted to get another older Toyota. Always a  tough decisions, not as much about the $$ more of the second guessing after you sell a truck.

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[SqWADoosh]

Hope you dont mind throwing a picture up but while not Sas I loved my 01'  Taco. But dont know what it is about driving an older Toyota like the runner you have now but know I'm not the only one who enjoys the old school a little more . I went from a 93' pickup to the Tacoma. Even on 37's it was a great d.d. but after I sold it about 9yrs ago I knew I wanted to get another older Toyota. Always a  tough decisions, not as much about the $$ more of the second guessing after you sell a truck.

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Looks like a beast of a Taco. 

[mdtrail-toy]

Looks like a beat of a Taco. 

Thanks bud, I Loved it, The one thing that gets me though is the seats in my 90' SR5 now are fully adjustable lumbar/side bolster just holds you in like a lot of the older seats, were all the Tacoma's even up to the last 14' I was in have pretty much a flat seat no adjustment. Not that that would sway your decision. Sounds like the damn power steering is really getting to you right now, but hell you got this far with it you'll figure it out